Guy Who Helped Mod Cable Modems Arrested By The FBI
from the freedom-to-tinker? dept
What a world we live in: if you tinker too much with the electronic equipment you buy, you might get charged with a crime. That seems to be what happened to a guy in Oregon who helps mod cable modems. Now, clearly, some people can and do use modded cable modems to access cable service that they haven't paid for, but there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hack your own hardware or to buy modded hardware. Just like unlocking a mobile phone should be perfectly legal, the same is true of unlocking a legally purchased cable modem. As the article linked above explains, most of the indictment seems to focus on the actions of others in this guy's forums, which should lead to an easy Section 230 dismissal (as he shouldn't be responsible for their actions). The only "questionable" issue for the guy is a request for certain information that could potentially have been used to gain unauthorized access -- but that's not evidence that he actually did so. All in all, this seems like an attempt to crack down on anyone interfering with artificial locks put on legally purchased hardware by the cable companies. And, if that's the case, why is the FBI involved at all? Shouldn't this just be a civil issue involving the cable companies?Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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If you are hacking it to make it better, within the limits of the service agreement, true. If you are modding it to run on your own cable network, true. However, modding it to "borrow" internet access? Sorry, that would be stealing.
It doesn't compare with unlocking a phone, as an unlocked phone is just a small paperweight without paid service. Theft of services is theft, plain and simple.
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Mike comments are pretty much set up to soften what this guy did, which is break the law and help others to do the same.
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I get Linux distros for nothing through P2P. I also get CC-licences music for nothing. Anything wrong with that? No, because I have the full permission of the rights holders.
Do you think that it's up to utorrent.com or The Pirate Bay to police my downloads in case I download something else? If yes, then you obviously must think that AT&T should be liable if I make a threatening phone call, or that UPS should be sued if I send a pirated DVD through their system.
If no, then why do you have a problem with a guy modding modems for potentially legal uses? Surely he should be privy to the same protections as everybody else I mentioned above?
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If they don't, who will?
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If the police don't search every car using the city streets, just in case somebody has is bringing a couple of CDRs to a friend, who will?
If AT&T doesn't monitor every phone call in the US for copyrighted music playing in the background, who will?
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This is a really simple argument and you (and Mike) are being laughably irrational. Virtually every mod this guy was doing was intended to be used to steal service. Virtually every torrent on TPB is intended for copyright infringement (they even make nice browseable categories so that you can infringe easier). These are starkly different from Google, which allows you to put in a ridiculously long query string which most people don't understand so that you can get unlawful material.
It's really a battle of percentages. The only legitimate battle I see right now in any sort of third party liability is with smart cards. DirecTV goes after smart card tech buyers and sellers accusing them of satellite signal theft, even though there are tons of other legitimate applications that smart cards are used for. It's these degrees of unlawfulness that we're talking about. Google usually lawful. Smart cards also usually lawful. Bittorrent in general slightly less lawful. TPB very unlawful. Modding cable modems very unlawful.
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Which law are you reading, cowterd? There's no law against flashing your cable modem.
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Really?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Lockpick
Click on the 'Shopping' link or go to the Shopping results, Oh look, Dozens of Lock Picks available on the Internet. Many under $25
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Oh look they broke out the DMCA
The MPAA/RIAA's (etc) Favorite Toy
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Just WOW!
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Just buying this guy's perfectly legit modems IS NOT what makes you able to steal services. You would have to take steps beyond that - illegitimate steps to further modify the device - before you could then steal services.
THAT is why he has done nothing wrong.
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He didn't use the hardware to steal the service, his users used his work to steal the service. Holding him liable is like holding HowStuffWorks liable for it's lock picking article.
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I don't buy his claims not to condone the use of his work for criminal purposes; if he was serious about that he would have deleted the threads on his forum telling people how to do it.
I don't think he aided and abetted wire fraud in a way that should be indictable, but he saw other people doing so on his site with gear they were paying him to supply, and effectively shrugged and said "Not my problem."
Real nice guy, huh?
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A. Not indictable, not even wrong. So could guns, rocks, and butter knives.
B. Well since his work by itself DID NOT provide the means to do so, I think you can safely be converted. BELIEVE!
BELIVE that it's legal to configure computers,
BELIEVE that it's legal to make a locked computer configurable.
OF COURSE it's not legal to spoof MACs. Whether it's legal to uncap depends on your TPM, but could also be illegal. HE DID NOT PROVIDE MACS AND HE DID NOT PROVIDE ILLEGAL CONFIGURATIONS OR HELP IN GETTING THOSE.
Please don't encourage people to believe that simply tinkering around is illegal.
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There are in fact legitimate reasons to torrent. I torrent My Operating System Whenever there is a new release. And Where do I get the link for the torrent you might ask, why directly from the Operating systems websites.Almost Every single legitimate Linux Operating System releases torrents of their ISO's when when they release their OS, and hold breath this might come as a shock, it's COMPLETELY LEGAL.
So I wouldn't say it's a slack response to anything there are many legitimate reasons to use torrents and their may well be many legitimate reasons to mod a cable modem
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So arrest the people who use the modems to steal not the guy who modded them.
Do you arrest the guy who makes and sells crow bars or the person who buys and then uses the crow bar to break into cars and houses to steal?
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This confuses my sexuality.
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'the guy that converts a semi to a full auto'
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A fully automatic weapon is illegal to own, possess, or manufacturer in the US. So in that circumstance the person who modded a semi-automatic weapon to be fully automatic could be charged and convicted. That's the law.
However, in this current instance, unlocked modems are perfectly legal. There is no analogous law regarding cable modems as there are with automatic weapons. Accordingly, your analogy fails because the situations are completely different.
Thanks for trying.
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and with all due respect, a legal owned item converted to steal, corrupt and hinder a paid service can be considered illegal. just as a legally owned hand gun with the serial number removed becomes illegal... that's why this discussion is taking place, to discuss and determine when said 'tinkerer' crosses the line and enables the theft of service.
so why don't you go and count grains of sand.....
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Coward, you're begging the question.
"The analogy stands."
Until you turned around and it sat down and took a shit.
"The point I am making is understood by just about everyone, including you."
No, the point he is making is well understood. Your point is embarrassingly fallacious.
"and with all due respect, a legal owned item converted to steal, corrupt and hinder a paid service can be considered illegal."
But that is not what tcniso was doing, certainly not what Harris was doing. All the verbiage of "hacking" in the indictment boils down to stuff that can be done legally and that required "DShocker" to commit actual illegal activity before being able to commit the principal offense.
Like I said before - selling a multi-toll that can be ground down into a lockpick is nowhere in the same hemisphere as selling a lockpik, not even if you sell bench grinders.
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If my point is so fallacious, then what point was I making?
Lets stop parading free speech, et al, around for every asshats attempt to circumvent technology, and claim they did it for the good of the community. Yeah, while they charged you and earned a profit...
don't get me wrong, there are legitimate uses for his hack, and there are illicit ones as well. All of which he was fully aware of. At what point does a person become culpable (sp?) for what they do?
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Begging the question is what is so fallacious. If you don't know what that means, click above.
As for parading asshats, Mr. Grand Marshal, the particular asshat in question only jacked around with technology. Somebody else did ALL the circumventing.
All of the 'illicit uses' of this hack required actual illegal hacking beyond the legal hacking that this guy did - similar to modifying custom rifle parts to make them fully auto. The custom parts -> okay. The illegal mods
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I would suspect that the software in the cable modem is copyright. Decoding and or modifying it would be a DMCA quality violation. Distributing it, well... you know.
It's also a question of ownership. If the modem is owned by the cable company (rented), then it's also modifying what is not yours. That too can be an issue.
Just as important is the intent. Why would you modify your cable modem? Answer: To get more service, to get service for free, or to obtain what wasn't already permitted by your service provider.
Intent brings us to the website. What is the intent? To help people to obtain services they are not normally entitled to or are not paying for.
It's a nice little deal, exactly the type of conspiracy that the feds love.
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"Decoding and or modifying it would be a DMCA quality violation. Distributing it, well... you know."
The DMCA makes specific provisions for modifying for interoperability. So if a user wants to use the device with another service, another device, or with otherwise incompatible software, then modding for this purpose is A-Okay (with the proviso that you're not circumventing copy protection - which this guy's software DID NOT do).
"Ownership" - that CAN be an issue. It's not raised in this case, so let's move on.
"Just as important is the intent."
Other commenters have already addressed the simple fact that there are other legitimate uses for this type of modding. We don't need more cowbell, thank you.
So, at this point the feds would need to establish actual intent as opposed to "well it's obvious, isn't it?" in order to distinguish this from a witch hunt.
Now, there is one and only one matter of fact that has been alleged that says that a user with his user name at one time posted a request for MAC addresses. No other indicator of intent exists in this case (And no, the alleged conversations about the general topic of the illegal activity does not establish intent), only this one point of fact.
Seeing that this is contrary to every single thing this guy has ever said about not ever wanting to be associated with illegal activities, I've got a feeling it wasn't him - but either way that one should be pretty easy to prove up.
"Intent brings us to the website. What is the intent? To help people to obtain services they are not normally entitled to or are not paying for."
As for the intent of the website, you're a dumbass. Trying to get better functionality out of your modem, including unlocking your modem for use with another provider in order to save some money is NOT illegal, at least not inherently so. Show me where you see that they encourage illegal activity, and I'll be happy to show you where you're confused.
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It's a one-to-one comparison with an unlocked phone. He did exactly the same thing as unlocking a phone - he provided alternate firmware.
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Come again?
I am not sure how anyone could read that indictment and come away from it with this opinion. The heart of the indictment revolves around Harris selling software and hardware used to circumvent TPMs in cable modems. It is somewhat unclear why this action wasn't brought under the DMCA. In any event, based on the indictment, it is unlikely that the CDA will play any role in this case.
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The CDA protects service providers (the guy that runs the forums and sells equipment with legitimate uses) from illegal actions by others who are beyond his control. Without knowing particular circumstances, is there anything inherently illegal about circumventing a TPM?
If I sell you a knife, and you use the knife to kill someone, can I be convicted of murder? If I sell you a permanent marker, and you use that marker to circumvent the copy protection of a CD, am I liable to copyright infringement?
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Distributing spoofed MAC addresses? No question that'd be the illegal part. There is a question of fact related to Harris on this, but it's a pathetically vague relation, a shady allegation, and should make for easy repudiation (unless of course he is the guy that was sniffing around for MACs and then he's pretty much toast - again doubtful).
Simply unlocking the modem? Legal activity.
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what exact state or federal laws allow for police action in what is a civil dispute?
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Streisand Effect, Anyone?
Wanna bet we see a spike in modded cable modems?
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Good, bad business? Sure, of course. But it's his playground, that he owns, and his rules.
The guy was apparently selling these modded modems, which is a no-no.
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A no-no as in you don't like it, or a no-no as in a crime? Which code section? Hell, I'll meet you half way, which code?
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§ 1204. Criminal offenses and penalties
(a) In General. — Any person who violates section 1201 or 1202 willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain —
(1) shall be fined not more than $500,000 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both, for the first offense; and
(2) shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both, for any subsequent offense.
(b) Limitation for Nonprofit Library, Archives, Educational Institution, or Public Broadcasting Entity. — Subsection (a) shall not apply to a nonprofit library, archives, educational institution, or public broadcasting entity (as defined under section 118(g)).
(c) Statute of Limitations. — No criminal proceeding shall be brought under this section unless such proceeding is commenced within five years after the cause of action arose.
www.nextgencopyright.blogspot.com
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The DMCA Section 1201 is about circumvention over copyright works.
A modem is not protecting copyright works, thus, can not be covered by Section 1201.
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The Counts are:
1) Conspiracy (18 USC 371) to commit Computer Fraud and Wire Fraud
2) Aiding and Abetting Computer Fraud (18 USC 1030(a)(4)
Counts 3 - 6) Aiding and Abetting Wire Fraud (18 USC 1343)
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Ubi non est principalis, non potestesse accessorius.
You can't just charge him as an accessory on the presumption that crimes were committed.
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Yep, too far
But you've got a guy operating forums whose express purpose is to facilitate theft of service (very different than copyright non-theft we hear so much about), and who performed and sold hardware modifications expressly designed for theft of service.
I just don't see how there's any argument for his innocence or indemnity that passes the smell test. Call him an unauthorized reseller (still illegal for utilities), call him a warranty voider and mattress tag remover... he, his customers, and pretty much all of us understand that his intent was not innocent.
The worst part is, as I've typed this out, I've challenged myself with "how is this different than The Pirate Bay"? And while clearly there are some differences, working out that model has made me a little more (still not very!) sympathetic to the MPAA et al. They see TPB like most of us see this guy: clearly profiting from selling someone else's sweat of the brow (note that I don't buy the SotB argument, but you've gotta understand it to have any of this make any sense at all).
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Sorry, but a "single damning message" does not equal the express purpose of the site. Unless you have a link that shows where this is expressed, we'll have to assume bullshit on this.
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Wire fraud sounds pretty specific...
I think the Feds are making a good case for dismissal by having an overzealous hard-on for this guy.
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For example, increasing the QoS class for time-sensitive applications such as VoIP and video. Try explaining this to a Customer Service Keyboard Jockey, and they'll likely say that they don't guarantee a connectivity, and send a tech out to the house.
There are people who had techs out to their house five or six times to "test the line" with a spectrum analyzer, put in a half-block's worth of new cable from three houses down, replace equipment, all before a truly qualified tech was dispatched and changed the service class level at the head end. These types of service calls are not cheap, and I imagine it costs $100 or more each time to send a tech out.
Plus they are a disruption to customers who have to take time off, neighbors who have to to secure pets and have their backyard easement dug up, or wire-restrung on utility poles.
But checking or changing the QoS level is often the last thing after $1500 in service calls, and a customer takes a combined week off from work to be available for a tech.
Mods could provide more information and be more valuable than a Keyboard Jockey's "troubleshooting manual".
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I really get a laugh that cable theft ads that have the guy walking through the checkout line and refuses to pay and it gets passed on to the next in line.
Next time you think about why modding is becoming a illegal activity look at what the fairness doctrine is and why there try to re-implement it. Then go answer why the Obama Deception Documentary via YouTube has 4.5 million hits. Or you can simply accept that the wonderful U S of A is going socialist.
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Socialism. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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btw, (hypocrisy coming) try to stay on topic people.
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Bwah hah hah hah hah hah hah! *snerk* Have you looked around lately? Tried to use health insurance? We already HAVE that. Only it's the health insurance company that's doing it, and they're trying to maximize their profits at your expense. It's probably not even a bureaucrat, it's probably a clerk ticking off boxes on a form.
Everybody hates our health insurance system but nobody actually wants to try something different. All you can say is "It's socialism! Ewww, don't get any on me!"
America's motto: "If that doesn't work, try more of the same."
Oh, and I don't have erectile dysfunction, but thanks for your concern. Are you the person sending me all that spam? Anyway, why should I care if some faceless person somewhere knows that somebody he's never met has some medical problem? Or do you imagine your insurance company doesn't know about your erectile dysfunction? Is it OK that they do as long as it's not a government bureaucrat?
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Arrested??
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He had a business selling modded cable modems...
He was not arrested simply for modding, but for selling people modded boxes with the intent to steal service.
What's next? An article of outrage over a guy selling hacked electric meters to all his neighbors?
"He should be allowed to hack his electric meter! There's nothing wrong with that!"
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Re: He had a business selling modded cable modems...
In some cases it's a couple bucks a month, so that this guy's modems would save you nothing. In other cases they artificially lower the price to look more competitive and bump up the auxiliary fees, including modem rent, to even things out.
If you don't have to rent a modem, then you get a break. That's a good deal and a legit one.
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Wow, this is a cluster...
And it looks like Broadcom included in it's spec the ability for cable companies to customize the modem, including changing of the "root" password.
If cable companies "own" the modem, why don't they ask the OEM for customizations such as a different root password, or hard-code the configuration/SFTP server? Do cable modem manufacturers offer this? Usually this type of customization is not difficult to do when your buying bulk quantities.
But if someone's modding a modem bought at a store, it could be legal and provide non-infringing use. Answer to this is "Are they paying for service?"
It's difficult to tell if a crime has been committed until someone uses a modd'ed cable modem without service.
Until then, it looks like a very sloppy authentication spec, lazy modem manufacturers, and cablecos that don't know how to ask their OEM to make firmware customizations.
Man, this is funny. Some of these cable modems come complete with jumpered pin-outs silk-screened on the pcboard.
Hah.
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If Harris was Chinese or Indian, he'd probably be a senior engineer running their cable modem business. That's outsourcing for ya!
Damn. Someone should give this guy a job. Maybe at a "real" manufacturer, like Cisco or Avaya.
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This Ryan Harris fellow (pen name DerEngel) published a book in 2006. It's even available from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Cable-Modem-What-Companies/dp/1593271018
Forget Avaya. He needs a job at a real gear company like Lucent, Cisco, Juniper, f5 as Director of R&D or something.
Or, maybe perhaps this whole thing is a cover for him to "disappear" so he could get a high-level job at the new CIA datacenter being built in Utah.
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I do think that all information should be open. If someone tells how to hack a modem I think they should be allowed to publish it. Information should be free. If someone uses that information illegally then go after them, but don't kill the messenger.
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It doesn't even matter if the key is under the front mat, you aren't allowed in.
Hah.
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Modding rocks!
And yes, it's totally legitimate to circumvent pointless limitations such as having a puny 8 chars in the filebrowser that somehow seemed acceptable to the Asian chipset manufacturer (Mediatek) and the distributor (clueless Philips).
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It is not stealing at all.
A criminal act in which property belonging to another is taken without that person's consent.
Ok, with that being said, what exactly was taken that was not returned?
If some smart ass says, internet or bandwidth, im going to die. In order to be considered theft, you need to diminish someones quantity of something to less than what they originally had to begin with. If you are paying for a basic connection then it is not stealing at all. If you physically climb up on the pole and connect your line, I would call that more of trespassing than stealing. Since it is not your property, the internet connection itself is invisible, therefore you cannot prove in a court of law that anything was taken, case closed.
Go ahead and throw in any lopsided, twisted laws that you can at that, it is the same no matter how you look at it.
That's like saying I am stealing a satellite signal when I point a dish up in the sky and get free tv, it is not my fault they decide to transmit signal in my direction and I have the means to catch it.
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