Facebook As Your Alibi
from the when-your-status-suddenly-becomes-important dept
There have been stories here and there about Facebook statuses implicating people in a crime, but how about one that helped get someone cleared from a crime? Apparently, a guy who was accused of being involved in a burglary used the fact that he had updated his Facebook status at around the time of the crime, and had supposedly done so from his father's apartment, as evidence that he wasn't present at the burglary. The police subpoenaed Facebook to get the actual location where the update came from (and said it corroborated some additional alibis), but it seems to be one of the first (if not the first) case of a social networking status update being useful as an alibi.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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One doesn't have to be sure. If you're defending yourself, you don't have to prove innocence, merely establish reasonable doubt. When you combine an electronic event that you're the only person likely to trigger, with other alibi material; you raise significant doubt that you had opportunity to commit the crime.
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from the post (emphasis mine):
The police subpoenaed Facebook to get the actual location where the update came from (and said it corroborated some additional alibis)
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VNC
IP numbers prove neither guilt nor innocence. With technologies like I2P, Freenet, TOR, or even IPv6:4 gateways, all readily available with simple installers and routing behind Multi-WAN NAT firewalls, IP numbers are all fairly meaningless. You can't even prove that any packets detected weren't dropped before reaching the intended destination, over an encrypted channel hop further down the chain. So in absolute terms, apparent network packet data sources and targets don't prove anything -- you can't even prove the intended recipient got the data.
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Why didn't I think of this defense?
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The problem is the prosecutor has the wrong guy. As the defense said: “This implies a level of criminal genius that you would not expect from a young boy like this; he is not Dr. Evil,”
Yes, he could be faking it. But his parents say he was home. There's evidence he was on his computer. Do you really believe he did it?
This is just a stupid kid who gets into trouble a lot, when he should be at home updating his facebook account. He might be guilty of something, but we should presume innocence in this country.
I wonder if he was just playing minesweeper, would the courts find him guilty? If so, our justice system is so far from true justice that no American can appreciate it.
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With this said however; our justice system tends to be decades behind and in my perspective as such this lag in our system seems to favor the prosecutor more often than not. Seems the laws do however; catch up right quick when this is not the case. In the event they can rush this through the courts, this would be one instance where the defendant may just have a chance whether guilty or not. As it has already been mentioned a defendant merely has to raise doubts regarding their guilt rather than prove their innocence.
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Facebook saves the day
1. it was not so much facebook as the IP address that was logged - it could have been his banking connection for that matter.
2. As pointed out by others, there is no evidence that it was actually he who did the update. He could have given his password to anyone and had them do it. Come to think of it, what a great way to get an alibi without even having been seen.
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"x is establishing his alibi"
Good work from the police on this, they should make use of this kind of thing to help support their other evidence.
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Wrong-headed and lame
They obviously didn't have any evidence placing him at the crime, fingerprints, fibers, etc. Why do they think they have enough to charge him when they have no evidence at all? Poor black kid that all they have to do is accuse to get a conviction? That prosecutor is corrupt!
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Flimsy alibi
The fact that his Facebook status was apparently updated from home doesn't prove anything. Even if he did it, he could've done it from anywhere.
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I get the impression that there was various bits of evidence supporting his alibi which individually were not enough. However when they were considered as a whole it was reasonable to accept that he was at home as he claimed.
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The very same thing can be said for file "sharing". An IP address is but one factor used is identifying persons suspected of file "sharing".
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Using the Thomas-Rassert and Tenenbaum cases as examples, a wealth of evidence was produced that led the respective juries to conclude that the defendants were the perpetrators. Of course, it did not help her case that Thomas-Rassert at one point tried to throw her kids under the bus, nor did it help Tenenbaum when it was discovered that the had lied at one of his depositions.
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