Music Publishers Force Another Lyric Site Offline
from the careful-what-you-sing-along-to dept
Back in August we wrote about the ridiculous situation with the National Music Publishers Association suing a bunch of lyrics sites for not paying up to help promote songs. This action helped push at least one of the sites, LyricWiki -- which was user generated lyrics -- to shut down (though, Wikia picked up the project and paid up to the NMPA). Now it appears that the NMPA has forced another one of these sites to shut down and hand over all of the money it made. Once again, be careful singing along to or quoting any lyrics. The songwriters and publishers want to get paid every time you do.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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it's getting harder and harder to believe that some of these ludicrous cases are merely money-grabs. in a lot of them, the money is barely worth the effort. i understand that lyrics sites use derivative works by commercials means, but how is that damaging to anyone?
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*fires up the BBQ*
Do you want head or tails first?
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Aren't the lyrics public domain information ?
If someone standing next to me hears the song and says "What did he just sing ?" am I in breach of the law to answer that question ? Or to charge for answering the question ? Or to hold up an advert while answering the question for free ?
What about if that conversation happens in an online forum ?
It's very short step from discussion forum to wiki site, surely.
We need judges with more backbone...
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If there are no lyrics online, the song doesn't get found.
But, on the other hand, if it's a song that's not actively being promoted and doesn't have the backing of their huge wads of cash (to get it huge amounts of exposure), I may never hear it again. That's to their advantage, because I may otherwise go buy something that they are selling instead of what I want to hear. Would not be surprised if this is really their rationale.
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Truer words have never been spoken. I've certainly found songs this way.
On the other hand, if lyrics are always available, sites like this wouldn't exist: http://www.kissthisguy.com/
"buy something that they are selling instead of what I want to hear"
Sadly, this is exactly how the music industry has been run for the last 30 years, and they've gotten relatively good at it. A shame they can't recognise that this is what's causing their revenues to fall...
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I simply can't imagine the mentality of shutting these sites down, Lord know how much I'll have to pay if I decide to sing along to it in the car...
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