Unsubstantiated Claim: iTunes Success Makes It Harder To Discover New Music
from the say-what-now dept
Michael Manning points us to a writeup of a new study by Harvard professor Anita Elberse (who has long been a critic of things like "the long tail" concept) concerning the "iTunes effect" on music sales. Most of the article focuses on the fact that (*gasp!*) given the opportunity to just buy the songs people like, rather than an entire album, many will do just that. Shocking. But the writeup seems to suggest that this is the fault of iTunes, rather than the fault of the recording industry for putting out album after album where only a couple of songs are worth buying. There's no cosmic law that says people need to buy albums, and to blame iTunes for it, rather than the industry for not creating products worth buying seems incredibly backwards.Of course, it then gets even more ridiculous:
Not all of that lost revenue was profit. That album revenue was partly subsidizing the discovery and publishing of new music, which in turn created new buyers of music, tour tickets, posters, t-shirts, and so on. That revenue in turn helped develop that artist's next venture, and discover yet other artists. Significantly decreased revenues breaks the cycle that helps find new talent that will generate more revenue.And yet, as we've seen more new music is being made today than ever before in history, so it's not like this is really harming the production of new music. And this totally ignores how the internet has totally changed the economics of discovering, publishing and distributing new music -- such that you don't need to rely on the major record labels to seek out new music for you. And, even if you do rely on major labels to "discover" the next big thing, new technologies have made that much cheaper for the industry as well. They now have the internet to help them find bands and judge their buzz and sound even without having first found them at a club as was often done in the past. To ignore all of those other impacts seems highly questionable, and puts a cloud over the research as a whole. Besides, just thinking about it logically makes it ridiculous to think that iTunes has somehow limited new music discovery. For many, many, many people, it seems likely that it has increased new music discovery, and done so by taking the record labels somewhat (not entirely) out of that loop.
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The notion of forcing people to buy the entire album by eliminating the single did not arise until the 80s. Sure there were cassette and CD singles, but they were only issued in limited quantities. E.g., you could not special order Elvis' "Hound Dog" on cassette single like you could order the 45 in the 70s.
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LPs (in their varying forms) were niche and were bought by hardcore music fans and audiophiles.
I remember reading an article about how the growth of LP sales was criticized as destroying the income from single sales. (Unfortunately, I can't find that article now.)
Let's face it, the music industry is never happy and enough is never enough.
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I believe there remains a place for the album as a format for music (I'm not talking about a physical format, but a structural one) - but of course, it's only going to work with good artists who are actually producing whole albums with value intentionally. The single-song model is perfect for the majority of music that dominates sales nowadays.
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come to think of it, actually, you had troubadours before that...
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"Most of the article focuses on the fact that (*gasp!*) given the opportunity to just buy the songs people like, rather than an entire album, many will do just that." Absolutely correct, Mike. Yet, iTunes does a horrible job promoting the ENTIRE catalog. They show great preference to the most commercially viable material and often overlook the fan favorites.
For that reason & more, we started Rank 'em for the fans to rank their favorite songs from all their favorite artists. When the fan favorite are aggregated for each artist, a valuable resource emerges for recognizing the best material as determined by those that know each artist the best -- their own fans.
You won't find 'Creep' atop our rankings for Radiohead...
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Nice site, btw.
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discovery
While I prefer other services, iTunes definitely has made a positive impact on music discovery. If iTunes were not being employed for discovery by a significant number of people, the record companies would not be begging for a payout every time someone "previews" a song on Apple's store.
And the belly-aching about letting Jobs beat them to the market continues unabated.
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It is true that the part of iTunes directly responsible for recommending new music (Genius) is relatively new and not as good yet as personalized internet radio (Slacker, Pandora, the late lamented Yahoo Launchcast). But one thing that iTunes does that indirectly serves that purpose is to make new-music podcasts easy to download and use (All Songs Considered, Sound Opinions, etc.).
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By her logic
Shame on me.
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Lower the barrier to entry...
Of course the downside of this is that you may decide that $1 is all you want to spend. The singles model depends on the "rest of the album" to be there and worth buying.
The idea that iTunes discourages new music discovery is beyond absurd.
Perhaps iTunes discourages whole album sales. Although that's something else entirely.
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Re: Lower the barrier to entry...
Actually, I agree with it to a degree.
Until recently, when they killed the model, I was a fan of eMusic. For €30 per month, I could download up to 100 tracks. The subscription model ("use it or lose it") encouraged me to download a lot of music by artists, or in entire genres, that I would never even consider downloading for $1 per track. Even the albums in iTunes are rarely cheap enough for me to take a chance on unknown material.
The flat $1/track would have actually put me off looking at the new music I discovered through eMusic. Why spend the same on a track you never heard of when you can pick up that song you could never find on CD for the same price?
Having said that, I do consider the point of the main article rather naive and silly. Of course people will try more new material if they only have to buy $1 tracks rather than $10 albums, the trick is to get them to notice it. The major labels focussing their marketing on karaoke competition winners won't help, but that's their mistake, not Apple's.
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Funny.
I have a couple devices that got updated, and NEVER worked properly again. And they BURY this in the forums.
DRM? I dont need to say more on that. AS most music wont work on OTHER machines OTHER THEN APPLE.
Think of a HUGE program just to play music and SAVE to a MP3 player.
NOW to the Iphone devices.. Im sorry for those that HAVE this device.
Contract with ATT
Contract with APPLE
Contract to USE itunes..
Just to use a PHONE.
And if ANY of those 3 fails?? gets a HAIR in the REAR, and does NOT WANT something on your device, they have the RIGHT to remove it WITHOUT ASKING YOU. READ YOUR EULA's..
If some idiot makes a mistake on any of the programming, you are SCREW'd and have no recourse.
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Now, I agree with you. I've got sick of iTunes crap really early on and swore never to pay for anything from iTunes again. I've even moved past the iPod.
This is not to say that iTunes failed, it succeeded in what it set out to do, it just did it in a way that we don't like anymore. As with anything, there are alternatives and it's time to move on (learn from our DRM mistakes and then move on).
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album is like cable tv
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I agree, in limited context
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iTunes is DRM-free now anyway
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
One year ago: iTunes Store provides DRM-free iTunes Plus versions of its songs:
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/01/06itunes.html
iTunes has changed the music industry forever. Get used to it.
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I don't know if iTunes changed the music industry forever. I would say file sharing will have the greatest impact and might shrink iTunes to nothingness. Then again, I guess if they keep selling iPods then people will still have to use it... Stupid holes in my plans :(
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You're looking backward
Apple is looking forward, you're looking backward. Future generations of iPods, iPhones, and Apple tablet devices will play music from "the cloud". No need to store all that music on each of your devices. No need to sync with your music library on your Mac or PC.
But you do have a point. iTunes is enormous now. Best to move it to the cloud as well. Just watch.
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Underground/Tube/Basements
Countryside and other areas with no/limited/spotty coverage
International Roaming charges
High data charges
Until all these are dealt with a mobile accesable cloud for everything is a pipe dream
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Some of you get the idea,
The music industry has made TONS of money on virtual products for years.
The failing is that they RELEASE PARTS, to companies to sell. They have contracts with Time/life(warner) NOT to release certain things and albums.
Consider what would happen if they SETUP, their own site and DIGITALLY remastered ALL of the music they have from the past 100?? years? TONS of music has been lost, BECAUSE they have not transitioned.
Some of you understand this. They could take the WHOLE volume of Music and even Movies and be able to release ALL of it, with Little or NO charges from Adverts,packaging, shipping, Middlemen..
I could setup a 4x4 Kiosk that could hold Millions of albums of music, video, video games..and distribute from a GAS station in the middle of NOWHERE..
The need for a Storefront is GONE. You dont need 10,000 sqft to show OFF all your wares and goods.
The REAL trick is getting these folks to SEE IT.
ONCE they finally see whats happening, APPLE will be DUMPED, and the corp will take it into their OWN hands(if they get smart).
They could have a ONLINE sale site of their OWN. Charge $0.10 per song and make BILLIONS. They have TONS of music they do not have a RESOURCE to release.
AOL could take the WHOLE market over if they THOUGHT about it.
Walk up to the RECORDING industry and say..
we will give you $0.20 per song sold, and you give us access to sell ALL your songs and music.. AFTER the cost of digitally converting and conversion. And we will sell it at $0.50 per song. NO DRM, NO packaging, NO shipping, NO lawyers, NO middle men..
The music is STUCK in some storage area ROTTING. There is music people are looking for, that cant be found unless you BUY some Time/life subscription..
Getting rid of the Lawyers and DRM saves >1/2 the price of making an album.
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mike masnick you talk an argument that wrong
I’m not sure of your history in the music business for you to air your righteous sounding but totally non-intelligent views on this subject but to me you sound like a punter rather than a music maker or distributor of music. Your view is so UN knowledgeable of how music works?
Do you just write these things for the money or have you got a vested interest in the topic you write?
All the time it’s how easy it is to get music and it obviously better for the artists and not the record companies and more people are making music so that is good.
Dude since the beginning of time people have been making music in their heads so no more people make music now than since the beginning of time the art is in making good music into something that people want to get involved with and that people actually want to buy and that’s become harder to find because people like you seem to think everything is everywhere and so everyone can find everything they want and music is only the bit you like and nothing more.
That’s is not the case
I have been battling with giving iTunes my music since 2000 that’s just before the iPod was released I have a vast catalogue of underground dance music and they offered me a contract to distribute it I declined because .40 pence was stupid for a track and I wanted to sell albums so people got the whole project, ever since then its been the same thing with iTunes and me until recently I accepted a deal but still i’m reluctant to put my music on there because they really have killed the concept of an artist creation (which is an album)
And don’t come with that rubbish about how only a few records are good on an album and that’s the music company’s fault because you show your ignorance with comments like that.
An artist makes an album thru their art and they don’t banter to the public unless they are a pop band bantering to a pop fan base
Generally the artist is making all the music how they want it to sound
Just because you think there is only one hit on it doesn’t mean it full of rubbish it just means you don’t get it
May people buy an album and don’t get it but after a few play they do and that’s the magic of an artist to get the message they want across not the message YOU expect from them
But the artist gets what they are doing in n album and they want other to get it. People like you who just want the pop hit are not truly supporting the artists work or trying to understand it you just want to cut and run and that is exactly the iTunes model so please don’t diminish a respected report from someone who has some credibility with their view.
Has iTunes made being a real artist difficult? YES
Has it helped kill the album? Definitely!
Do people like you understand what you going on about? I don’t think so
Are albums full of rubbish and only one good track? Only to people like you!
If you are writing articles like this you need to put up your credentials so people can judge weather you are just a blabber of words of someone with a history to voice some real opinion!
I’m 20 years of success as an underground artist/producer Google me.
http://www.ukunderground.com
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During the 90s, I bought hundreds of white label vinyls and other dance music SINGLES because that's what I wanted to do. Am I now a bad guy for not giving you money for an album I didn't want?
"Has iTunes made being a real artist difficult? YES"
No, it hasn't. If you, as an artist, only want to sell albums that's your prerogative. It's not Apple's fault if the vast majority of other "artists" out there release mediocre collections of songs rather than coherent albums, nor is it their fault that most music fans have been ripped off ad nauseum by these mediocre collections and thus only want the singles.
Oh, and Apple DO sell albums, btw. They give everyone a choice between singles and albums, it's the customers who choose the former. Apple don't force anyone to buy the singles if they actually want the full album...
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mike
I understand the concept of ALBUM, and love a great many of them, esp alan parsons, JMJarre, and a few others..
Its the individual that selects the Song/album and what they like.
Im talking about being able to go to a site and get the 50+ year old recording, that hasnt seen the light of day for 49+ years.
I want KIDS to hear the OLD stuff, and wonder about the NEW.
I want artists to be able to make MONEY, rather then the Corp that holds there music.
The other trick, as with radio, was Exposure to THOSE that LIKE IT, or MIGHT like it.
releasing a few LOW quality samples could get you a following.
Getting in a car, bus, Taxi and hear your music and they ask, "who was that" and your name gets around..
They look you up and find your music..
There is TONS of music out there, and TONS that havent been heard from in DECADES, unless you wish to sign up with TIME LIFE..
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If you read it out loud you will see that it works..
and if that makes you dizzy, I suggest you read more.
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Terrible post
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Wow. What a terrible comment. You claim I attributed a quote to Elberse when I did no such thing. I clearly said that it was a writeup about her study. Sloppy comment by anonymous.
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Singles were done as a way to (a) make music radio friendly, by pre-selecting tracks to play, and (b) as lead in sales towards purchasing the whole album.
Often in the late 60s through mid to late 80s, the single was either a shorten (abridged) version of the song or was different from the album version. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida was a 17 minute plus album side song, and released as an under 3 minute single (radio friendly!). These days, the single selection process is often done just to guide radio through an album. The first single is usually selected by the label / band and the subsequent singles in part selected through feedback and what more open format stations may have been playing, especially in the rock field.
Singles often were songs signficantly different from the rest of the album, which could lead to some feeling of "bait and switch", as an act might try to appeal to a more commercial audience to get airplay, hoping to hook them onto a more experimental or less commercial music type through the rest of the record.
Even Trent Reznor knows the power of a single, and pretty much every one of his recordings had at least one "single" song. Often those singles were somewhat different from the rest of the recording. Closer is a great example of a single (release as Halo 9) which didn't exactly match up to the rest of the record, it was signficantly more commercial and easily accepted on a superficial level by a wide audience.
Led Zeppelin, kings of rock, did the same thing. Every album had a single, every album had a classical blues song. Every album had a "big piece" on it, and every one had a ballad. That single sold the rest of it solidly.
Yes, even back in the day, the proverbial "mix tapes" were made (everyone had them), but true fans would listen to the artist from one end of the album to the other, discussing the relative merits of the A side to the B side. Was the power of Zeppelin 4 in the A side powered by Rock n Roll and Stairway to Heaven, or the more sublime Going to Califonia and When The Levee Breaks ruling the B side?
Perhaps Mike you might want to ask your poster children why they don't just release a new song every month, and why they want and stack them up in albums, when they clearly do not have to anymore.
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Utter nonsense. Garbage science, or simply publishing for posterity sake alone.
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Got to love technology
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