TV Station Issuing DMCA Takedowns To Try To Hide Weatherman Making A Bad Joke
from the fair-use-anyone? dept
It's been well documented how many people/organizations abuse the DMCA takedown process to try (and usually fail) to make content they don't like disappear, even if there's a legitimate reason for it being up. In the latest such example, a weatherman in Boston made a comment that many considered to be... a bit off-color for the local evening news. In discussing the snowfall in certain areas, he noted: "Picking up some snow are we? Yes we are. In Princeton we picked up 9 inches of snow and in Billerica we had 7." Then there's a brief pause before he steps forward and says: "The biggest amount I could find--almost as big as me--about 9 inches."Still, though, the station, WHDH, has been aggressively issuing DMCA takedowns over the video (who knows how long the video above will stay up), even though it's almost certainly fair use, and courts have found that those sending takedowns need to take fair use into account. Justin Silverman, over at the Citizen Media Law Project, explains succinctly why this is almost certainly fair use:
In this case there's a fairly strong argument that the 27-second clip of Bouchard is fair. The amount of the original broadcast used is very small, the purpose of the clip is to spur public discussion, and there is arguably no effect on WHDH's news market. It's likely WHDH either didn't consider fair use before ordering the clip's takedown, or it simply didn't care.And that's an issue. The DMCA allows copyright holders to shoot first and not care later. And that's a problem, because it can put a serious crimp on public discussion (which raises some serious First Amendment questions). Yes, in this case, it's just an off-color joke, but in many other cases it could be much more important speech.
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Thought so.
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Phrase of the day...
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Yet the copyright holder bears great expense to do this, as they have to issue individual DMCAs to each and every website that uses the video or hosts it. The burden on the rights holder is high as well, they cannot just wave a single piece of paper in the air and have things disappear.
Is this a misuse of DMCA? Somewhat. But again, fair use is a defense, not a right, and before you get there, you have to admit to having violated copyright. Fair use is "I violated copyright but...". The distinction is very important, as fair use is a judgement call, not an absolute.
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No, it's not. Fair use is an *exception* to copyright. It specifies things that are not subject to copyright law. It might be a judgement call at to whether a particular work is covered by fair use or not, but fair use rights are enshrined in the same laws that grant copyright in the first place.
The correct quote would be "If fair use didn't exist then I would have broken copyright law". Very different from your twisted view.
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This is a news organization, so they rely on fair use a lot in their productions. They should understand it's importance. They are going to have a hard time claiming ignorance on the issue or a belief that it is not fair use. It is pretty likely that a lawyer is going to be able to find a 27 second clip that WHDH has used in a similar way in the past.
I like that you are at least somewhat agreeing that this is a misuse of the DMCA. Are you also willing to admit that rampant misuse like this would have a big negative impact on free speech and free press?
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Actually, I think it was a single court, a single judge, in a single judgment, no?
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So let me get this straight, if you find ONE judge who says something in support of your outrageous beliefs, it supports your position and can be used to bludgeon anyone who doesn't agree with you, but when ONE judge sets precedent that doesn't support your position, it's just a single judge in a single court in a single judgment and we should all ignore it?
Hypocrite much? Yeah, I thought so. Are you sure you aren't Wierd Harold reincarnated?
This statement brought to you by the tinfoil hat brigade, and if we think The Anti-Mike is a wacko, you really have to wonder, don't you?
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"fair use is a defense, not a right, "
The very distinction between a right and a defence is bogus.
Self defence is a right - and also a defence in a murder trial.
Just like a murder trial you have to admit the you killed someone in order to claim self defence - but that is not the same thing as admitting murder.
You are confusing a defence (which basically is a way of claiming that you did not commit the crime) with a mitigation plea (in which you admit the crime but ask for a more lenient punishment).
In the copyright case to claim fair use you would need to admit that you made a copy - but you are claiming that you made a lawful copy and no infringement occurred.
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This high burden is precisely the reason why it is stupid to insist on copyright.
No legal measure or enforcement measure can change this situation.
It's the old St Francis of Assisi - "accept the things I cannot change..."
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Awwww, lets all throw a pity party
"as they have to issue individual DMCAs to each and every website"
Yeah, running a business is just not what it used to be.
"The burden on the rights holder is high as well, they cannot just wave a single piece of paper in the air and have things disappear."
Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat
"Is this a misuse of DMCA? Somewhat."
It is either abuse or not, there is no somewhat.
"fair use is a defense, not a right,"
This has been debunked many times
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Oh yeah, you know what else is a defense and not a right? An alibi. But according to your logic, you first have to admit that you're guilty of the crime, before you can use the "defense" that you weren't even there at the time it occurred and that you have witnesses that can corroborate it.
"Yes Your Honor, I did murder Mr. Doe. Ok, with that out of the way, I just want to show you footage of me being out of the country at the time the murder took place. Yeah, because it's a defense, not a right, donchaknow."
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> having violated copyright
Absolutely wrong.
Fair use, per the Copyright Statute, is an exemption from copyright and by definition not infringement.
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- http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
Copyright is a right afforded to artists, and the fair use doctrine is a set of exceptions to those rights. Does that clear things up for you?
With that out of the way, it should also be clear now that everyone has a right to use whatever copyrighted materials they want as long as they use it fairly. If there's a question about it, it's up to both sides to try and prove their point...
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But again, fair use is a defense, not a right -> wtf???
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Soup'ed
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Because Cable companies can't control it the way they can TV... I thought that was clear by now :-)
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and just stupid that the station is taking this stance, though. if it was an honest mistake, then let people have their fun. they would have forgotten it by now anyway. and hell, you never know, you might get more viewers hoping that the weather guy is always this funny.
(oh! we need to patent comedian/weatherman combo. we'll make a killing in east texas!)
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Funny
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It HAS to be a bid to avoid an FCC fine because NO ONE is going buy that as an excuse.
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fair use is a right!
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Odd, I don't see it mentioned as 'news' on their site, lol.
In all honesty, if a news station isn't willing to report news about themselves - they are FAIL.
So if they want to post 'take downs' for copyright, perhaps they should post it themselves then?
We should e-mail them and request it :)
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Yes, and?
Yes, so what? You dont know about case law and precedents? Once a judge makes a ruling like this, it can be used in other, similar, cases in the future, until or unless it is struck down by someone like the Supreme Court.
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For those who want to keep such jokes off the prime-time news, this is important speech.
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Oops!
Sorry me screen went funny for a second...the font went strangely bigger. Oh well, as I was saying my cock is named Jim, and he lives at a farm
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perhaps i could suggest
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OWNED
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Windy it's a A Blow J...
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