Citizens United, Recent Winner Of Free Speech Case, Tries To Silence Critics
from the free-speech-for-thee,-but-not-for-me? dept
Unless you've been living under a rock lately, you've heard about the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court, which reiterated corporate personhood in certain circumstances -- specifically with regards to political campaign funding -- effectively freeing up companies to spend as much money as they wanted to support (or not support) political candidates. The ruling was quite controversial, and it's not at all surprising that a Facebook group popped up with the creative name "Citizens United Against Citizens United." Turns out that the Citizens United organization was none too happy about the criticism. Paul Alan Levy alerts us to the news that the new bastion of "free speech" is claiming that the Facebook group violates its trademark and is demanding the destruction of all documents bearing its mark.Although we haven't seen this issue litigated in the context of Facebook, Citizens United's demand flies in the face of the many decisions holding that an Internet gripe site (or fan site) may use the trademark of the subject of the discussion as its domain name. Under Lamparello v. Falwell, 420 F.3d 309 (4th Cir. 2005), that's even the rule in the Fourth Circuit, where Citizens United is located. How can they possibly hope to win a case like that?
Wisconsin Democracy Campaign's argument would seem to be even stronger, because it is using "Citizens United" in its descriptive sense, and not as a mark. It seems doubtful that Citizens United the conservative group can prevent a group of citizens who are united to support or oppose a particular proposition from referring to their effort as Citizens United For X or Citizens United Against Y. (Otherwise, many groups that would have to change their names). It is especially hard to understand how any confusion about source could be expected to result from labeling a campaign "Citizens United Against Citizens United."
Interestingly, Citizens United asks Wisconsin Democracy Campaign to destroy all documents bearing the Citizens United trademark. If that demand were extended to the Supreme Court, could it succeed in wiping the Citizens United decision off the books?
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Speech should be free!
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Citizens United Against Recursion
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1 against 2 against 3 against 4
Its simple really and goes like this ...
Citizens united 1 and 3 are the facebook group,
Citizens united 2 and 4 are the ones with the Supreme Court decision.
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Citizens United vs Citizens United Against Citizens United
still a little confusing :)
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As a side note, it's rather incomprehensible that so many people could actually be against this decision. It doesn't increase corruption, only hinder speech. Obviously politicians hate it because it means that it's easier for the public to organize funds to fight against the better financed incumbents that otherwise might win handily, but the public should be embracing it, if anything, as an equalizer.
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Trademark
If they had called it "Citizens united against Citizens United" would they have been all set? If they didn't capitalize the "united" then it would be clear that they were not using the proper noun which refers to the organization. Can trademark be dependent on something as flimsy as internet name capitalization?
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is not singing a form a speech?
and i agree
like open source
music will not disappear
it will just change to touring and acts in bars and be more locallized
and shared to everyone freely
this is the laziness factor were fightng
if your a lazy artist YOU WANT LONG TERMS
if you like suing dead people YOU WANT LONG TERMS
if you like suing disabled and blind YOU LIKE LONG TERMS
if you like suing poor people that affect your yacht building YOU LIKE LONG TERMS
and silencing critics just makes it worse for you all and htis is across the board
and this is one affect of a mp3 tax
are you going to come ot my house now and check if i have mp3 ability
and what of open formats and other sound formats?
you cant legally tax something thats opensource right
this will spell the end of the mp3
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(ref. Jay and the Silent Bob files!)
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The lawyers were fishing for something to pin a previous boss on. So they contact me, to talk about how I was payed. I respond that as a private citizen I would be happy to promote the cause of justice and I would be happy to talk to them. The lawyer replied ok, Ill get the subpoena to you ASAP. At which point I responded that I have a problem.
Would the lawyer be forced to attend under the force of law? If they had not shown up, would I have been able to send the sheriff to throw them in prison for non attendance?
NO.
The Shyster was shocked at my not being pleased about that fact (and didn't seem to understand why I had a problem with it, as I did not have any intention of not attending.)
The people we Americans have allowed a system to be created around us where there is an oligarchy who have more rights than others, and it is disturbing that many people don't even realize it, much less care.
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"Citizens United against Citizens United Against Citizens United"
Citizens United really doesn't like themselves. Not only can corporations donate money like a real person, they can also have schizophrenia like a real person too!
reminds me of the Coke commercials where Coke tries to sue Diet Coke.
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Oops. Fixed.
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