Now That Everyone's Seen ACTA, USTR Says 'It's Time To Release It'
from the nice-work,-guys dept
So, for years now, the USTR has fought as hard as possible to keep ACTA a secret, while pretending otherwise. It's insisted that ACTA wasn't secret while at the same time refusing to release details of what's in the document, claiming that it was a national security issue. Later, when confronted about it, the USTR claimed that others would leave the negotiating table if the text was made public. However, as more and more info leaked about ACTA, it became quite clear that it was really the US that was behind the level of secrecy. Of course, as time went on, more and more of the document leaked, the whole "secrecy" angle got pretty silly.So it's almost laughable to see the USTR say on Friday that now is finally the time to release a draft -- as if everyone who didn't already want to see it hadn't seen it.
Overall, therefore, there was a general sense from this session that negotiations have now advanced to a point where making a draft text available to the public will help the process of reaching a final agreement. For that reason, and based on the specific momentum coming out of this meeting, participants have reached unanimous agreement that the time is right for making available to the public the consolidated text coming out of these discussions, which will reflect the substantial progress made at this round.Yes. That or the massive public rebuke the USTR has been receiving from almost every quarter on this particular agreement. The full document gets "released" on Wednesday, and we expect it to be... well, pretty much like what was leaked last month.
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I'm too tired with this copyfight. They keep trying to screw our consumer rights, but act all uppity whenever we give them a blow back.
It's the same on all levels. Be it copyright, patentlaw, and all other "intellectual" "property" "rights".
Big Media (and other corporations) only have their direct bottom line in mind, and none of the consumer rights. And because they have the big bucks, they can afford good lobbyists and spend money on trips for politicians, who then become shills for them.
I'm sick and tired of it.
I wish I truly had a say in all this. Yes, I can vote and I do. But vote on who?
They all lie and cheat. Big promises during the election, but after they have been elected, it's business as usual. What promises?
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When's Dark Helmet running?
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Ha! I've often thought of trying to campaign locally with a sort of truthfullness, anti-political correctness shock and awe campaign.
Then I came back down to Earth and realized it would probably be the most lopsided defeat of all time....
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It's not about whether you win or lose, it's about how much damage you can do in the process. I say go for it, go forth with the blessings of Ralph and Ross and that one sane two-party guy who got kicked out and swept under the carpet.
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the word you are looking for is redacted
redact - To obscure or remove the sensitive portions of a data set or document, typically prior to publication or release.
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It's slightly less likely than the Pope being a Muslim.
(one legged ducks swimming straight)
(Bears visiting the local Bar to go to the toilet)
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anti-copyright sites?
Never heard about these. Where are they? Most i hear about is FAIR copyright, and FAIR use for the consumer.
I know FAIR is a difficult concept to understand. Coming from an industry that based itself on ripping off artists. Stealing what others have created for pennies, and although they may agree to your slave terms, it is still taking advantage of someone.
Case in point, WNOC, a local Philly band, was really great, at a time when the whole rap/rock thin was coming about. Live shows were a blast. Anyway, when it came time to get signed, they would not give up publishing rights. Good for them, but unfortunately it was the reason they did not get signed. So you ether sell the rights to EVERYTHING, or they take the ball and go home. Yeah, but its all in the interest of the "Artist" right?
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So your previous comment:
"wont it be funny if the release document turns out to be nothing like the scare docs that have been distributed by anti-copyright sites?"
"distributed by anti-copyright sites"
Implying there are many. If so shill, please point them out. You cant. You will try, grasping at straws, you will fail miserably.
I have been dealing with pieces of shit (sorry mike i dont usually curse) like yourself for many years on YT. You try to LUMP A GROUP TOGETHER BY IMPLYING THEY ARE OF THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR, CONNECTING THEM, IN MY CASE WITH THE WORD "CONSPIRACY THEORIST" (no plane-ers come to mind) WHEN MOST HAVE VERY VALID REASONS, NOT CONNECTED WITH ANY CONSPIRACY, BUT WITH IRREFUTABLE FACTS.
But please dont go away. We need the underbelly of the entertainment world to keep on posting their absurd logic for the world to see, and the rational, critical thinkers, will call your bluff every time.
Kiss kiss Shill.
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Confusing, yes, sometimes. I'm not quite sure why it's so hard to just type a name, but that's their prerogative.
It's sad really, because you used so many capital letters, all for nothing. :)
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"there are only two that I can remember being outright against copyright" was me.
The "wouldn't it be funny if" was someone else, possibly the anti-mike.
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Hardly. Unorganized emails from individuals does not to my way of thinking even remotely approach a massive public rebuke.
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They truly don't seem to understand how bad their ideas are and how negatively it will affect their industry if they are actually implemented.
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Hardly. Unorganized emails from individuals does not to my way of thinking even remotely approach a massive public rebuke.
says something about your way of thinking - nothing more.
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About time...
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We, as a vocal minority, will not be able to affect change against the fortunes that have been put towards ACTA. Our success relies upon getting a majority of people to care about something they simply do not care about. They should care, but they don't. Getting them to care will take a lot of time and effort; more time and effort than we have before ACTA is enacted.
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They will, one day. Something tells me "I told you so" will be very bittersweet.
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Prohibition won't work now either
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unlike alcohol prohibition in the 20's
What would be a fun experiment, if someone would have the funds to follow through, would be to send really bogus, extortion letters to a vast majority of people in an area, or maybe just a handful of politicians/Judges per a given area demanding payment for alleged file sharing. Better yet, use the threat of being kicked off the internet, along with leaked/official documents of ACTA itself.
Print the ACTA document and leave it around public areas. Public transport, parks, etc.
Talk about it to anyone who will listen.
Poke the beehive with a stick.
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"Less fulfilling!"
"More tasteless!"
"Less fulfilling!"
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If you explain it in your limited perspective then yes, no one will ever agree with you. Now, if you explain the full situation then people start agreeing (yes, I've already tested this).
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I haven't found a good way to explain it to someone who isn't already concerned, but I'd like to.
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But it does. And that is the scary part. It affects their lives directly and they do not care.
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That is what we're up against. All the Techdirts and Slashdots in the world aren't going to influence public opinion, because those voices are drowned out by the noise generated by Big Media. American Idol indeed...
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RapidShare wehrt sich gegen gerichtliche Verfügungen
Auf zum Bundesgerichtshof
http://www.buchreport.de/nachrichten/verlage/verlage_nachricht/datum/2010/04/19/a uf-zum-bundesgerichtshof.htm
Rapidshare: Prozess in den USA
http://www.gulli.com/news/rapidshare-prozess-in-den-usa-2010-04-19
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Funny this ....
No government mandated three strikes ... but the ISPs loose their safe harbor if they dont implement it
How is that not government mandated?
"There is no proposal to oblige ACTA participants to require border authorities to search travellers’ baggage or their personal electronic devices for infringing materials."
We all know how governments never over reach, never try to induce fear in their populations, and never try to oppress their populations by any means at their disposal.
This is going to be fun to watch from an implementation stand point, the legal challenges that will happen, the negative publicity to the record labels and movie studios,
the sheer quantity of new encrypted applications.
If sweden, france, and south korea are any example this wont do anything to slow down infringement.
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