Did South Carolina Use Second-Hand E-Voting Machines That Louisiana Decertified?
from the conspiracy-theories dept
The election situation in South Carolina keeps getting stranger. Last week, we noted how the controversial election of Alvin Greene, a broke, out of work guy currently facing felony obscenity charges, who did no campaigning and no advertising of his campaign, had people looking at the e-voting machines in the election as one possible culprit. The ES&S iVotronic machines used in the election have no paper or audit trail, so there's really no way to go back and check, but the differences in voting patterns between the e-votes and absentee ballots certainly raised some eyebrows, as did a test of randomness in voting results using Benford's law (a useful tool for suggesting data was faked).Now, reader Pickle Monger alerts us to the news that the previously expected winner of the campaign, Vic Rawls, is claiming that the ES&S e-voting machines used in the campaign were bought secondhand from Louisiana after Louisiana outlawed their usage:
Third is the well-documented unreliability and unverifiability of the voting machines used in South Carolina. It is worth noting that these machines were purchased surplus from Louisiana after that state outlawed them.In response, the state is insisting there is no truth to this claim at all:
South Carolina's election commission begs to differ about the provenance of the voting machines. Spokesman Chris Whitmire says the state's 12,000 iVotronic voting machines were bought brand-spanking-new from Election Systems and Software, an Omaha-based behemoth that boasts of operations in 39 states.Rawls' campaigns' response is hardly reassuring:
"That was what the word around the state was -- heard it from several people."In other words, total hearsay. I'm all for pointing out the problems of e-voting systems, and ES&S certainly does have an exceptionally long history of having problematic machines that have been decertified in certain states, but claiming that such machines were used in South Carolina without any evidence other than "heard it from several people," seems pretty silly.
Of course, South Carolina's election commission has its own credibility problems. Apparently, its been telling local news media that the iVotronic systems do have an auditable paper trail. They don't. They have a paper tally, but that's not the same thing.
Either way, if you've been following the whole e-voting mess for many years, this sort of situation was bound to happen. Even if it turns out that e-voting machines were not the problem, the very lack of a voter verifiable paper trail, combined with massive security problems and ridiculous levels of secrecy from the e-voting companies has created a world in which no one actually trusts those machines. Even if the results were accurate, the voting machine companies' own actions have created so much doubt in people's minds, that they don't trust the results at all.
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I'll lean toward real results.
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Pretty funny, a randomly selected official. He will probably work out better than one that has all this political debt to pay back.
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Please remind me, how much has the national debt gone up this year? This guy probably thinks 50 bucks is alot and would think twice about signing a bill thats going to cost a trillion dollars.
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A plumber has pipes and no faucets.
A carpenter has no finished walls in his partitioned basement.
This guy could be excellent with money.
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Yes, but did any good cryptographers work on these systems?
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I guess something like this:
Iran Uses Second-Hand E-Voting Machines That Israel Decertified!
So funny how this "news" road is a one way road.
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No Possible Way
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GEEKS
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I would think absentee voters were a little more educated in the races than those who show up to vote for a governor and pick the name at the top of the list in the other slots.
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