DailyDirt: The Legal Definition Of What You're Eating...
from the urls-we-dig-up dept
There are some bizarre legal definitions for common foods. For example, we've seen that the definition of a sandwich was under dispute because a burrito place was encroaching on a sandwich shop in a shopping mall food court. That case decided that a burrito was not a sandwich, but food experts don't all agree on that point. Here are a few other cases of defining some foods legally and not with your gut.- Unilever is suing a vegan "mayo" company because it doesn't use eggs in its product. The startup Hampton Creek may be benefiting from some publicity here, and its "Just Mayo" mayonnaise-like spread will likely sell more now. In the end, though, both Unilever and Hampton Creek (and any other condiment makers) may need to be more explicit about ingredients and make a clear distinction between mayo and mayo dressing. [url]
- In 1893, the Supreme Court decided that, under customs law, a tomato is a vegetable, not a fruit. A fruit importer was trying to get tomatoes into the US without having to pay the 10% import tax, so against biological definitions, the court ruled that vegetables were "usually served at dinner in, with, or after the soup, fish, or meats ... and not, like fruits generally, as dessert" -- and tomatoes were therefore a vegetable in everyday experience. [url]
- In 1981, the US Department of Agriculture had 90 days to come up with new standards for subsidized school lunch programs. The resulting new rules almost considered ketchup to be a vegetable, but the ketchup-counts-as-a-veggie policy was not adopted. [url]
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Filed Under: condiments, food, ketchup, mayo, mayonnaise, sandwich, tomato
Companies: hampton creek foods, unilever, usda
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Seriously? A sandwich is filling served between two slices of bread. A burrito does not have slices of bread; it has the filling wrapped in a tortilla. What room is there for disagreement on something so simple?
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Definitions
That's your definition. Arguably, a sandwich is a construction of meat and bread which allows the person to eat it without holding the filling (look up the history of the invention of the sandwich). A burrito would be covered by my definition.
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In the context of a mall writing a lease that grants an exclusive sandwich market to a single business, a burrito arguably shouldn't count as a sandwich. The lease clearly didn't mean to exclude all other food places, or it would have been more broadly written. And a burrito, typically filled with rice and beans, and fully wrapped, isn't all that close to a submarine sandwich or a burger. (A 'wrap' might result in a different decision, but that's not at issue here.)
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http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/pizza-vegetable-congress- says-yes/
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Fail. A tortilla is unleavened bread.
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If the argument is going to be over exact definitions and phrasing, well, "technically correct is the best kind of correct".
And don't try to construct a definition that is so general such that you end up with an absurd result such as donuts, Oreos, fried chicken or tempura fitting the category.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandwich
and the line of persons that honorarium related to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Sandwich
But the most important view came from a 'sandwich theory' class I took a long time ago. Not only were the varieties of sandwich types, ingredients, containers (forms of bread), design and presentations discussed and experimented with, but commonalities amongst almost all of those. Two of those commonalities stood out.
First up, the spread goes on the bread. Whether you are using mayonnaise, butter, olive oil, or some other, this ingredient is intended to help the bread pass more smoothly (remember, bread was not always the very refined thing we view it as today in certain parts of the world) and is not intended normally as a flavor additive.
Second, the mustard goes on the meat. Whatever condiment one uses beyond the spread, is intended to flavor the filling. Cranberries on turkey, mustard on ham, or beef, or chicken, or turkey for that matter (in that sandwich, I would leave the cranberries out), or whatever your cuisine inspires.
This comment is aimed at the multitudes of inept sandwich makers in the commercial world, who once determining that you want mustard and mayonnaise on your sandwich proceed to slather one side of the bread with mayo, and the other with mustard, failing to consider the storied history and craft of professional sandwich making.
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All this dumbing down of food so that even the most idiotic wanker can simply ask for a 'sammich' (god, kill those people, please!) without having to learn what they're actually eating.
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Flowers are red...
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"Sandwich" may be correct, but "sammiches" are fun and "sammidges" rock.
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What hair are you going to split?
Tortilla is a flatbread. So it qualifies as a sandwich.
Unless you can dig up the Earl of Sandwich, any definition is likely arbitrary. Although that's fine too so long as everyone is aware of what that arbitrary definition is.
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...and another thing.
The typical liberal media narrative of "the underdog is the good guy" simply doesn't work here.
Unilever is simply doing what the feds should have done already.
No foodie anywhere (including) Vegans should put up with this crap. It's insulting.
"You are stupid ignorant gits and we can take advantage of you at will."
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Re: ...and another thing.
Nice soap box you got there, what is this liberal media of which you speak?
Most uses of the terms liberal and conservative do so because the source does not regurgitate the desired extreme talking points.
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