US Lost Touch With 50 Nukes This Weekend
from the that-does-not-sound-good dept
On the heels of hearing about how the US lost its nuclear launch codes for a few months over a decade ago, comes a report about how the launch control at the Warren Air Force Base apparently couldn't communicate or monitor 50 nuclear missiles this past weekend. There were backup systems that allowed others to monitor the missiles, but apparently the whole snafu, due to a single hardware failure, seems to have shaken a few folks who aren't happy that this happened, noting that the US plans "are wholly inadequate to handle an entire squadron of missiles dropping offline." Comforting.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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No worries...
We're also working on this sweet shit called Jet. More on that later....
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Fallout New Vegas is pretty good though, since a few folks of the original team were involved.
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I wonder if brahmin are twice as smart as the average cow?
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Chances are the concern is BS and just fabricated by ignorant press people. The US has nearly six *thousand* nuclear ICBMs. 50 of them not being able to launch is not a problem....
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It was a power failure caused by the cyberwarbots that knocked out the powerlines to disable our defenses and put American lives at risk. We need to stop the cyberwar.
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And that ought to be the real story, that even with 50 nukes out of commission, we still have enough of these things to wipe out civilization as we know it many times over.
Maybe we should save some money and worry, and reduce our arsenal to the point where we can properly maintain and secure it.
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NO! Then the Germans...wait, the Russians...wait, the terrorists...wait, the Iraqis....wait....who are we supposed to be afraid of now? Is it the formics yet?
I'll put my fear on hold for the moment until we get this cleared up....
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it's eurasia. it's always been eurasia and it always will be eastasia.
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Such ignorance...
/Yes, this is sarcasm, why do you ask?
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Re: looking like the USSR
Where's my shovel, I need to get back to building that bomb shelter.
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It was the French!
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Were there any UFO's reported in the area? I have read that a few sites have been having that problem.
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Like recently, in Canada, the news reported about Russian fighters testing out resistance at the Canadian border. Happens all the time. Conveniently for Harper, of course, it comes just before he needs to convince Canadians to spend more on the military.
Dollars to donuts that you guys are talking or going to start talking about spending more on nuclear weapons.
Sorry if I'm a bit jaded, mike, but it hardly seems like real news.
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Why didn't they think of this...
What? Am I the ONLY one that remembers the movie "Wargames"?
Would you like to play a game?
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The technology that the government uses is built by contractors who charge way too much for the services provided, in some cases. I know, because when I was a soldier, I had to modify what some of these companies sold us, in order to make it work as advertised. Not all government contractors are bad, and I know at least one company that is just as frustrated. As a soldier, I worked with some of those employees who put in LONG, unpaid hours right alongside me to help fix what another company sold to the Army.
And to answer the question of, "Why didn't they think of this..." I say that the decision-makers behind this may well have thought of it. That's why there were backups and contingency plans. In everything you do, whether you realize it or not, you probably conduct a risk assessment. The likelihood of this sort of failure was probably so slim that it was deemed an acceptable risk.
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Movies
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On a good day, the US Salvation Army could take Canada out.
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I'm sure the international community would poo-poo the US and impose a sanction or two, but that crap doesn't really mean anything.
Only real drawback I could see would be a few civilian megadeaths and a couple of radioactive clouds wafting around Asia.
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You know the earth is round and spins, right? Weather is global.
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The "lose codes" claim is probably bogus
http://hoffman.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/21/what_s_missing
Seems more likely that it's an author trying to sell a book based on sensational claims.
IMO what happens with/to land based missiles is high in snore factor. The only serious threat to anyone are the submarine launched missiles. With a land based missile you have a fair amount of time to recover from a mistake. With a submarine launched missile you may have as little as 10-15 minutes to find and press the "Unf**k It" button before the open-air people crisp market has its grand opening.
I can't think of any agency in the federal government who can react within 10-15 minutes of anything except the Department of Spin Control and I doubt they have access to that bright yellow button with "Oops! Don't Panic!" written on it in large, friendly letters.
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It is, and never has been, unusual for a Launch Control Center to lose contact with a squadron of 50 Minuteman ICBMs; however, there are four other LCCs that retain the capability to fully monitor them (and launch them, if necessary).
This is another example of lousy (nonexistent?) fact-checking, and the spreading of more FUD.
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To be clear, it was a commenter who suggested that, not me.
It is, and never has been, unusual for a Launch Control Center to lose contact with a squadron of 50 Minuteman ICBMs; however, there are four other LCCs that retain the capability to fully monitor them (and launch them, if necessary).
It would appear that many of the experts quoted in the Wired article disagree with you.
That's from someone who was a missile launch officer. What have you done?
Furthermore if there was nothing out of the ordinary here, then why did the original report note that "the outage is considered serious enough that the very highest rungs on the chain of command — including the President — are being briefed on the incident today."
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