ACTA Negotiations Are 'Done'... But Negotiators Still Getting Together For A 'Legal Scrub'
from the that-sounds-dirty dept
The ACTA negotiators were pretty insistent that the last round of negotiations would be the last round -- and came out of that round with claims of a "near final" document, though many of us noted that there appeared to be substantial areas of disagreement. Since then, many people have noted significant legal issues with the current document. So what's an ACTA negotiator to do? Well, not set up another round of negotiatons, but just get folks together in something that kinda sorta sounds like another round of negotiations in lovely Sydney, Australia and just refer to it as a "legal scrub," rather than an actual negotiations (found via Glyn Moody). The document also covers the various issues that still need to be worked out -- and it certainly seems like (a) there's a lot and (b) some of them are very substantial in terms of their potential impact. But, it's not like the negotiators have any plans whatsoever to allow the public and actual stakeholders to take part in any of this discussion. Why, that might involve having to actually pay attention to what those folks have to say.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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There's nothing wrong with wishing for a reduction of evil in the world.
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(oops, did I say that out loud)
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The suppression of a reference to an “infringement” is a mistake made by the Chair during the last night of the negotiation to adapt this provision according to the global agreement between Parties on the scope of the civil chapter. It was not the intention of the Parties to modify the substance of the provision but just to adapt the scope.
The Commission intends to address this “technical” problem during the next legal scrubbing of the text. Parties could re-adapt the current text using the version dated 29 September where a clear reference to the necessity of having an infringement is mentioned. The final text could therefore be read as the following:
“At least with respect to goods that have been found to be pirated or counterfeited, each Party shall provide….”"
Ofcourse, they COULD NOT check the legality of their negiotations.
After all, what is the point of coming to an agreement if it is not legal.
So they CHECK their homework, the negotiations are over, but they still have to fact check, dot the I's and cross the T's.
Are you suggesting that there should be no legal checking ??
They just want to be legal, when they come and convict you !!!. Make sure you go to jail..
@marak, yes it is wrong to idealise false gods, or to wish death on someone. So what you want a heap of people to die, so you can get free copies of music ?? ok, you are SICK..
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Never change darryl, never change.
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Its not my problem if you cannot comprehend much.
You guys that refer to Mike as "THE MIKE" or those who disagree with Mike TAM (THE ANTI-MIKE) one would think you have promoted Mike to a God !!!.
Do you really consider "THE MIKE" as some form of God ? therefore to argue against him you must be the 'ANTI-GOD' or
TAM (The Anti-Mike).
You must be really really 'into' Mike.. sorry "THE MIKE"..
I think I need to refer to him as "THE MIKE" from now on :)
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This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or expression. Nothing to do with what is best for society vs what is best for a small number of private corporations. There is of course no possible argument against, or downside of, permanent pervasive 'intellectual property' of all kinds.
/sarc
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Counterfeiting =/= copyright infringement.
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Who are these "actual stakeholders"?
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hosed
from one of the leaked documents ( http://bit.ly/ds7dUT ) comes these gems concerning their dystopia of digital enforcement:
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in the name of jesus, mary and ralph...what planet do these people come from??? how do people, on a taxpayer payroll, run around in such a cluless fog?
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I keep saying, this means that penalty adjustments have to be made, so maybe it's not the worst case scenario. I don't think petty thieves get 1.5 million dollar awards for stealing a CD, nor are they held liable for the miserable failure of the corporation who failed to profit from their rights.
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Bonus Round in ACTA
Singing a song in the shower: Strike One
Thinking of a song: Strike Two
Drawing or thinking of a copyrighted or non-existent cartoon character: Strike Three
3 strikes and it's full frontal lobotomy for you and your family.
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