UK Police Takedown Website Telling Protesters How To Avoid Police... Article Reposted Everywhere

from the dear-barbara-streisand... dept

Robw alerts us to the news of how the UK police were able to get a blog pulled offline for daring to tell student protesters how to avoid being arrested. The police claimed that this blog post was "attempting to pervert the course of justice" and ordered the webhost to shut down the site, which it did. So... in true Streisand Effect fashion, the article started reappearing all over the place. It was posted to dozens of blogs and on Facebook as well. In the act of trying to censor this basic information, police in the UK only served to get much, much more attention to it. Maybe next time the police should spend more time keeping the peace, rather than worrying about random websites.
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    mike allen (profile), 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:25am

    hehe

    i might just repost it myself.

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    Xythlord, 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:31am

    Well Duh!

    It's hard to have a police state without stomping around and censoring inconsequential information...give the poor goosestepping bastards a chance, will ya! /s

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  • identicon
    3 eyed snail, 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:32am

    Shutting down a site is like picking a mushroom, the spores will do its job as it should..

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    Grumpy Bob, 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:36am

    Police acted without authority

    The Metropolitan Police don't have the authority to demand a website to be taken down, this requires a court order of some kind. The hosting company ought to have stood their ground.
    The website campaign against the Metropolitan police (or at least some of their infiltration activities), so it may be there were other reasons that the Met wanted the site gone.
    Didn't work.

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      Dark Helmet (profile), 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:59am

      Re: Police acted without authority

      That was my thought too. How do the UK police go screaming about getting a site taken down and have it actually happen?

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        Call me Al, 19 Nov 2010 @ 8:41am

        Re: Re: Police acted without authority

        Because they will have scared the website into compliance. The trouble in the UK now is the police seem to feel they can just shout "for the sake of national security" and it gives them carte blanche to do what they like. Legally they can't but most people don't want get into that kind of battle.

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    Anonymous Coward, 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:47am

    Knowledge is not meant for the commonman

    The way the legal system is setup under Monarchy is quite similar to the way the legal system is setup under the US's Plutocracy. Loopholes are supposed to be known only to the wealthy or well-connected.

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    FarSide (profile), 19 Nov 2010 @ 7:55am

    Hah

    Even the news report contained the information that pissed off the police.

    I wonder if they could have avoided the whole thing by writing the blog entry as if it was a news report...

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    interval (profile), 19 Nov 2010 @ 8:00am

    Why???

    So the police welcome the extra work of rounding even more people? They must make their money on volume.

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    Designerfx (profile), 19 Nov 2010 @ 8:18am

    website's already back up

    http://www.fitwatch.org.uk/

    they went back up and reposted the information as well.

    way to go police.

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    Anonymous Coward, 19 Nov 2010 @ 8:19am

    Links?

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    Anonymous Coward, 19 Nov 2010 @ 8:19am

    :facepalm: nvm, not awake yet.

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    Anonymous Coward, 19 Nov 2010 @ 8:50am

    I really hope the first tip was 'don't break the law'.

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    Anonymous Coward, 19 Nov 2010 @ 4:11pm

    "UK Police Takedown Website Telling Protesters How To Avoid Police... Article Reposted Everywhere"

    I read through that list and some of it seems to paint the protesters in a negative light.

    Is it possible that authorities have secretly put the list up, pretending to be (a) protester(s), to publicly take it down in order to encourage the list to spread and make the protesters look bad?

    I don't think authorities and special interest groups have yet a sophisticated enough grasp of the Internet to intelligibly manipulate it, and the streisand effect, to their advantage in a way that will effectively fool a good percentage of Internet users, but as these people become more used to the Internet their ability to skillfully manipulate it will improve.

    There is little doubt that they've gotten sophisticated and coordinated enough to effectively manipulate newspapers and the MSM though, if it weren't for the Internet this would have probably gone unnoticed. That takes a lot of collusion to execute and get away with and these people demonstrate a very high degree of conspiration.

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    Dave, 20 Nov 2010 @ 4:06am

    Making up laws again

    Since when have the police got the authority to shut down a website? They are supposed to uphold the laws of the land, as decided elsewhere, not make up new ones as they go along. Whether something is "attempting to pervert the course of justice" is for a court and/or jury to decide. If the site owners are suspected of doing something illegal, due process should be followed. This smacks of the same problem of perfectly legal street photographers being harassed by police (and others) whilst engaged in their legitimate hobby. Police should be reined in a bit, in my opinion.

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    Call me Dal, 20 Nov 2010 @ 8:04am

    UK is not yet India, or so me thinks...

    The million pound question is: Should UK Police do the third world thing ?
    Should their role model be something like the Indian Police, or worse ? (About Indian police, read here)
    "Cyber defamation", "blasphemy" and so on have been used by Indian police to take down blogs and such and harass people seeking justice or information. Instances follow.
    1. Some years ago a Singapore company e-Sys pioneered the abuse of Cyber Defamation complaints thru Indian police.
    2. Years later, another Singapore company is using a Cyber Defamation / IT Act 2008 complaint through Indian police to take down whistle-blower blogs and order arrests of former employees, all of that just to chill the air. For the background on that, read a Techdirt report and an update on a fresh attempt by the same actors to take down three blogs in three different countries.
    3. Mumbai might seem third world, but the police there are more interested in fixing blasphemy on the internet, emanating from the USA than fixing local thugs.
    4. Punjab police of India have also proven themselves adept at hounding whistle-blowers and their families.
    5. Those poor Indians who seek information which may protect them against injustice, are harassed for seeking information that a citizens charter gives them right to.
    Way to go, UK ?

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    Anonymous Coward, 20 Nov 2010 @ 6:14pm

    Ignorance of the Law Is NO EXCUSE.
    Learning about the Law Is AGAINST The Law.
    Got it?

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