Not Many French Users Scared Away From File Sharing By Hadopi
from the there-goes-that-plan dept
One of the main arguments made by the entertainment industry in support of three strikes rules is that it won't really kick people off the internet, because so many people would just stop file sharing. It looks like that's not really happening. A new survey in France suggests that only 4% of people have decided not to file share since the new rules were put into effect. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to ask whether or not any of those people actually started buying music instead, but I would doubt it. A lot larger percentage said they'd keep on downloading, with many taking more precautions not to get caught. Meanwhile, about 75% of those surveyed said they didn't download at all... but they're not thrilled that they now have to pay higher ISP fees to cover the costs of Hadopi.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Le Internet? I don't have Le Internet, Madame.
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People are not even trying to couceal anything anymore they are just right saying in the face of the opposition "F. You!", in no uncertain terms.
Is that not beautiful?
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-) do you steal Intelletual property online?
-) are you a Intelletual property pirate?
-) do you infringe on Intelletual property?
...
-) do you download stuff?
Now for some Record label math and hype ...
Last year better than 50% of the french population was pirating, this survey shows that less than 25% of the french population now pirate. Hadopi has been a huge success. I mean its not like people will lie if called out of the blue about piracy when it will kick you off the internet.
I am on a camel, hand me that horse and buggy.
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IntelleCtual property
IntelleCtual property
IntelleCtual property
I am so glad I fixed that. To bad its not that easy in real life.
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Here, I had an extra o I wasn't using. ;)
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Problem:
Problem #2: Dull swords don't scare anybody.
Solution: Try not using fear to control the thoughts and actions of others.
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Yep, I'm in the 80% there, not pirating and not buying LoL
Somebody should do a survey on how much people buy after they stop pirating or something like that.
In the meanwhile Jamendo is great, I can't stress that enough.
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It wouldn't be very interesting without knowing where their money is going. If for some insane reason I were to stop 'pirating' then I would probably just continue buying the exact same stuff that I buy while doing so. Which is almost everyone who isn't in some way associated with the RIAA and. in the case of music downloads, offers a decent choice of formats.
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People jaywalk, because it's beneficial to them to do so, and the risk is well worth the reward.
People speed, because the value proposition of "getting there faster," is worth the potential higher risk of loss of life.
No law will cease people's desire to share information.
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That comment has so much wrong with it.
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Everything in a nutshell, orange is an ISP in france, and megaupload accuses it of capping bandwidth to megaupload. proofs are most complaints are coming from orange users, while others don't complain as much.
Orange replying by saying "megaupload is using shitty access point for orange users and better ones for free and others isps".
second trivia : http://www.01net.com/editorial/526958/une-affaire-de-piratage-devant-la-cour-des-droits-de-lhomme/
basically, fernch man accused of file sharing Pre-Hadopi era, tried to get a 3rd retry on his case, but was rejected.
So he brings his story to the European court of humans rights, most likely for the following reasons : he's not illegally file-sharing, he's merely spreading culture". Also, he's afraid of acta actually hurting poor countries.
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AA meeting for filesharer's.
ps: How would people call that Anonymous Filesharer's meetings?
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AA meeting for filesharer's.
ps: How would people call that Anonymous Filesharer's meetings?
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Also, just use HTTPS on websites that are 'iffy'... no monitoring can get through that, that I know of!
HADOPI is a waste of time, money and energy.... unfortunately, the corporations have bullied France into adopting it through "WE WILL PULL OUT OF YOUR COUNTRY UNLESS YOU DO THIS!"
I'd really like to see a country call their bluff (it's a shallow bluff) and tell them "Fine, leave! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!"
The corporations wouldn't leave... they are making too much money even with their 'losses' from piracy.
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Also some industry people have noticed the huge growth free services like Pandora are experiencing. Apparently people are going all legit and are not "buying" LoL
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/91984/riaa-admits-p2p-not-solely-to-blame-for-decreased-music-sa les/
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Good Job RIAA
dumbasses
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Stop consuming it for a while. Don't just stop buying it, stop using it. If you keep using it, you have failed. Delete all that stuff off your hard drives and pod. Listen only to independent acts, ones with no record label deal, ones getting no airplay, no nothing.
Go ahead, live without it. If the RIAA is so bad, stop using their product entirely.
I dare you to try :)
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I don't know if you're an idiot or you made a typo. but keep in mind that the RIAA and the MPAA are separate organizations.
But, since you brought it up, I, for one, do not listen to the radio or watch (much) TV, and I very rarely *go* to see a movie.
If you keep using it, you have failed.
I'd like to see the reasoning, if any, that you used to come up with this.
Listen only to independent acts, ones with no record label deal, ones getting no airplay, no nothing.
I want to revise my earlier comment. There is no longer any doubt about whether or not you are an idiot. There are several labels that do not belong to the RIAA. Being on a label does not immediately mean that those bands are anti-fan. Further, "no nothing" is a pretty vague requirement, isn't it?
I dare you to try :)
I'm holding out for you to double-dog dare me.
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Why is that a failure? I see many people suggesting this sort of thing, but haven't seen a remotely compelling reason for anyone to take it seriously.
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Further TV is still free and people can record it last I checked, no need to pay anything to anybody there, but if that it not enough people can go and use MIRO or VODO to all their video needs, recently I saw the blendercomics being launched.
Looks like in this next decade the free legal competition will be getting harder to ignore for much longer.
About your dare, well you lost dude, 1 year without buying a movie, a CD, or a book, nothing not a penny for you douches.
On the other hand I spend money on free software, librivox, Jamendo and other places I just won't spend money with you ever, your kind is toxic waste for me, and I wouldn't touch it with a 3 meter(that works out to about 10 feet) pole.
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You turn piracy into a 5% problem tomorrow instead of the 20%-50% problem it is today, and I am sure everyone will be happy.
So please, take it underground as fast as you can. Just be careful who you give the passwords too, because it will get you shut down!
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So, you belong to the camp that believes because you can't see it, it must not exist, eh? Just because something is hidden does not mean it is small.
and is sucking in people who otherwise wouldn't take anything without paying in their normal lives.
Allow me to educate you. Find a song on your computer. Any will do. Next, click on it. Now hit Ctrl+C. Now hit Ctrl+V. Have you taken something without paying? So, it's clear the act of copying isn't taking without paying. Next lesson. Highlight some text in this comment. Hit Ctrl+C. Now open a txt file on your computer. Now press Ctrl+V. Did you just take something without paying? So, copying something on a remote server and putting it on a local one isn't taking without paying. So, how is copying a song on a remote server and putting it on a local machine taking without paying?
You've got to think. I know, it's scary.
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Piracy was never 5%, only in the sheets of flawed sampling statistics, in the real world everybody took whatever they wanted and that is since the 70's.
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Half of the people say they won't change anything. But these are people who at best have 1 strike. When they get to strike 2, or when people start getting strike 3 and lose their internet connection, you will see more of them change their minds.
4% swearing off in a single round is pretty good to start. half the people who remain being more cautious is also a good sign.
Same survey after round 2 should be way more interesting. It's too early to declare the law ineffective.
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No people are not flocking to cyberlockers either, they are going in droves to free legal services.
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