US Government Officials Admit That They Lied About Actual Impact Of Wikileaks To Bolster Legal Effort
from the and-the-truth-comes-out dept
You may recall that when Wikileaks released those thousands of documents on the Afghan war, the official US government position was that it should be shamed for putting lives in danger and "compromising intelligence sources and methods." It was only months later that Defense Secretary Robert Gates admitted no such thing was true. We're now seeing the same thing with the State Department cable leak. A number of grandstanding officials such as Rep. Peter King and Senator Joe Lieberman have argued that these leaks have seriously harmed US diplomacy. In fact, we heard how Wikileaks should be designated a terrorist organization for all the "harm" it's done to US interests. This was also a common refrain in our comments -- especially when it came to stories about the alleged leaker, Bradley Manning. Over and over we were told he deserves no mercy for harming American interests.So... it seems rather interesting to see that US officials are now admitting that no serious "harm" has been caused by the leaks. In fact, the White House has admitted privately that it purposely lied about the supposed impact " in order to bolster legal efforts to shut down the WikiLeaks website and bring charges against the leakers." Implicated as chief among the official liars: State Department spokesperson PJ Crowley, who lead the propaganda campaign against Wikileaks for the past few months, claiming "there has been substantial damage," and that "hundreds of people have been put at potential risk." And yet, when Congress asked the State Department to back up those statements, officials told them it really wasn't that big of a deal:
"We were told (the impact of WikiLeaks revelations) was embarrassing but not damaging," said the official, who attended a briefing given in late 2010 by State Department officials.Basically, the details show what many of us have said from the beginning. Some of the revelations may be embarrassing, but that's mainly because stuff was hidden that shouldn't have been hidden in the first place. In fact, many of the reports have noted that the cables seemed to only confirm what many people already knew. Of course, that won't change the opinion of the people who have already made up their minds that Wikileaks is, by definition, harmful -- which was the point of the propaganda campaign.
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potential risk
Head scratching.....
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Re: potential risk
"Here's one they just made up: "near miss". When two planes almost collide, they call it a near miss. It's a near hit. A collision is a near miss." -George Carlin
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Re: Re: potential risk
Near miss = almost missed (but in fact they didn't) or am i over thinking it?
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Re: potential risk
For example, if I shoot a bullet into the sky, that's potential harm: it could hit somebody in the head and kill him. It's risky (and irresponsible).
Conversely, if I were to eat a cheeseburger, that's "potential risk": what it, instead of eating a cheeseburger, I drove a drill into my eye socket? Therefore, it's potentially risky to do something that is not risky at all.
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Because we actually read them.
I believe those denouncing WL never took the time to actually read what was in the cables.
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Re: Because we actually read them.
/obvious sarc
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Twitter Petition
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those fellows are trying to shut down our illegal actions and our free money graVY TRAIN
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Are any of us really that suprized about this
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Now, why would we believe them this time?
The biggest damage is that we don't trust them anymore, which is bad for everyone. Now our politicians are trying to do damage control by asserting, without any evidence, that it isn't as bad as we think. Of course they will do that, but is it true?
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Now, why would we believe them this time?
The biggest damage is that we don't trust them anymore, which is bad for everyone. Now our politicians are trying to do damage control by asserting, without any evidence, that it isn't as bad as we think. Of course they will do that, but is it true?
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Are any of us really that suprized about this?
Sorry for the repost. I forgot how to work a keyboard.
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slander and libel
sheesh.
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Open letter-video to US government on WL
Personally, I'd hazard a guess our Prez is pretty tired of being beseiged, and WL and Assange gave him a black eye he didn't need. Not good reason to behave in an authoritarian manner, but I am trying to understand our president on this.
However, more importantly - a global group of citizens is sending a strong message to the US gov to handle this better.
We are people from 15 countries at present, all participating in speaking this open letter on video.
Neither WL nor Assange are above criticism. However, it is critical we come together to send a strong message that we will not tolerate futher threats to our freedoms.
We need more people to join us! Read the open letter and instructions at: www.support-julian-assange.com
Please join us - or, spread the word about this project!
Thank you...
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Just say, you know?
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/facepalm
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Wikileaks of itself isn't the problem, the real problem is a government trying to hide everything it's doing. The only reason it would be mainly concerned with hiding everything is that they are doing things that wouldn't look good on the home front if it saw the light of day. It's a sign of a government afraid of it's people.
Wikileaks is having to take the place of the FOIA, since the FOIA isn't near as effective as it should be and wikileaks manages to get the key people that know where the skeletons are and why they are there.
The exposures that wikileaks is doing needs done. The media no longer does what it should do and is instead a mouth piece of the government. Investigative reporting is for all intents and purposes dead when it comes to bringing to light misdeeds.
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The US Government has lied
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It would seem that anyone interested in the (recent ?) history
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not harmful eh?
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Manning
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