DailyDirt: If Only We Didn't Need To Sleep...

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If there was a disease that incapacitated a person for about a third of his/her life (say for 8 hours every day), you might think that researchers would want to find a cure. Well, that disease is called sleep, and folks are looking to why we need to sleep and how we might take more control over our sleep needs. And for the people who can't get enough sleep (over 40 million American insomniacs), there are sleeping pills that attempt to keep them asleep. So far, it doesn't seem like we've made much progress figuring out our sleep problems, but here are a few links that you might want to read before bedtime. If you'd like to read more awesome and interesting stuff, check out this unrelated (but not entirely random!) Techdirt post via StumbleUpon.
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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2013 @ 5:15pm

    damn artificial lighting.. damn you to HELL!

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    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2013 @ 6:31pm

    Too bad we can't sleep like dolphins. With one half of our brain shutdown. Sleeping with one eye open and the other eye closed.

    Then again, I don't know if would like living without deep REM sleep. Sometimes it's nice to turn the world off for a while and relax. :)

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    DCX2, 9 Sep 2013 @ 6:46pm

    Trouble sleeping?

    The last link talks about people using prescription drugs to help counteract insomnia.

    I can tell you from experience that you don't need that prescription drug crap. Sleep is regulated by the hormone melatonin, which is available over-the-counter at your local drug store. It's not some miracle that allows you to fall asleep fast; it still takes about 20-30 minutes to fall asleep, but that's better than laying there for 2-3 hours.

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    kyle clements (profile), 9 Sep 2013 @ 7:27pm

    Bah! Sleep is just a poor man's coffee substitute.

    I've been working to get on 'the Da Vinci sleep schedule' for the past few years. a 20-30 minute nap every 4 hours. Eventually, your body gets so exhausted you jump straight to REM sleep - or so the theory goes.

    I find that irritability, diminished motor skills, poor decision making, vision problems, inability to concentrate and poor memory are the real outcomes of this bizarre schedule.

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    Anonymous Coward, 9 Sep 2013 @ 7:33pm

    Re: Trouble sleeping?

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    McCrea (profile), 9 Sep 2013 @ 9:49pm

    Why Are You in My Room, Big Brother?

    ...to attach sensors to people sleeping in order to collect real-time data for a million people.

    Just what the NSA needs.

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2013 @ 12:23am

    Re: Trouble sleeping?

    While melatonin is a gentler alternative that is often helpful, for some people it is simply not sufficient. The reason we use different drugs or supplements to address a single problem is because people often respond differently to the same drug, especially when the central nervous system is so directly involved. The benefit gained varies between people, as do the existence and severity of side effects.

    Ultimately, the best option is the one that best meets the individual's needs.

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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 10 Sep 2013 @ 4:18am

    Why Do We Sleep?

    Nobody really knows. Seems like all animals do it, in various forms. Migrating birds can go for days, weeks, without sleep, yet when they’re not migrating, keep them from sleeping for more than a few days and they die.

    Martha Stewart gets by on three hours’ sleep a day.

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  9. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2013 @ 4:59am

    Re: Re: Trouble sleeping?

    "The benefit gained varies between people,"

    Yes, corporate profits do vary.


    Who benefits from sleep driving? Certainly not those involved in the resulting accidents. But, who cares if the dividends go up - amirite?

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    SpaceLifeForm, 10 Sep 2013 @ 5:48am

    Re: Why Do We Sleep?

    You sleep in order to provide downtime that
    allows your neuronal system to be recharged
    for the next days usage. This prep work for the
    next day can not occur while the system is in use.
    If you do not get the sleep, you will eventually
    hallucinate. Vision processing is very intensive.

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    MrPendent, 10 Sep 2013 @ 7:16am

    Re: Why Are You in My Room, Big Brother?

    Why are you in my room [with a bunch of wires and electrodes], Big Brother?

    ...to attach sensors to people sleeping in order to collect real-time data for a million people.


    Oddly, that seems like one of the least frightening answers to that question.

    link to this | view in thread ]

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    Anonymous Coward, 10 Sep 2013 @ 9:59am

    Re: Re: Re: Trouble sleeping?

    These are legitimate concerns. With that said, the gain can still be worth those costs. Medical need must be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, not in broad generalities.

    I take both a stimulant during the day and a GABAergic at night, both to help my sleep. I tried a number of supplements for several years, and I tried a GABAergic alone; while both were slightly helpful to me, my sleep still lacked any regular cycle, and I was still spending 2-3 days at a time completely unable to sleep. Extended sleep deprivation on such a scale creates an unpleasant and dangerous state. I have not had any difficulty with sleepwalking or similar behavior since beginning medication.

    Not all cases are identical. Different people require different treatment to resolve the same problem. If melatonin supplements alone had helped sufficiently, I wouldn't personally need prescription medication for this. Some individuals experience dangerous or debilitating side effects, but I have not. Supplements alone work for many others, and so much the better for them, but for some of us it is a choice between a drug with side effects and no sleep whatsoever. In my situation, the tradeoff has been worthwhile. For others, it may not be. Those affected by serious side effects do have alternative options, and often benefit from controlled discontinuation of the current treatment.

    The powers in control of production (largely through government monopolies in the form of drug patents) certainly manipulate the market, but that does not change the actual risks or benefits of the chemical agents in question, though the monetary cost will likely increase (drug affordability is a major problem). If a major pharmaceutical corporation possessed a patent on melatonin or other supplements, would they no longer be a good first-line measure because of that affiliation?

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    Anonymous, 10 Sep 2013 @ 4:01pm

    I'll sleep when I'm freakin' dead.

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