New Hampshire Police Charge Man With 'Wiretapping' Because He Made A Phone Call During Traffic Stop
from the you-can't-be-serious dept
We've covered the disturbing trend of police, prosecutors and the courts to abuse wiretapping laws to charge people with "wiretapping" for recording police in public. The latest such case is even more ridiculous than most. Found via Slashdot, it involves a guy charged with wiretapping the police during a routine traffic stop, because he made a phone call, to which a voicemail system recorded the call at the other end. The guy who was arrested, William Alleman, had just left a gathering of libertarians, meeting in support of an arrest of a local restaurant owner. The police were apparently waiting outside, and Alleman claims he was followed. As he got pulled over, he called the phone number of an answering service for Libertarian activists who are "in trouble with the police" and then used that to record the call. The police claim this was illegal wiretapping.This is, of course, patently ridiculous. Recording a police officer as he has stopped you is not and should never be considered a crime. The police in Weare New Hampshire should be ashamed of themselves for flagrantly abusing the law to intimidate people from exercising their own rights. All the more reason for laws like the one proposed in Connecticut that would punish police for preventing people from recording their interactions with the police in public.
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Sounds like the story is very incomplete at this point.
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Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you. The ironic part about this is if they HADN'T arrested him, HADN'T charged him with wiretapping, and HADN'T done it right after the meeting, he would just be a crazy nut. Now he is a crazy nut who was right, which makes him less crazy by default and the basics of scientific deduction.
Police should be considered public officials and traffic stops should be public meetings, that way this nonsense becomes a non-issue. It's pretty obvious that if the police officer can record the conversation as a public meeting so can the driver.
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12 more states on my do not fly list.
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While these states do require 2 party knowledge, an officer should not be considered someone with privacy rights. The officer is doing their job; a service to the public, and as such, should have no right to privacy on the job
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A situation like this might be the time to use "But officer if you have nothing to hide then you should not mind me recording you." :)
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Also the article did not say that the dash cam was not working in this case for HIM but in the other wiretapping case.
"Police also claim dashboard camera videos of her arrest aren't available because the equipment wasn't working that night. Hipple said police don't have maintenance records to prove the cameras weren't working."
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Washington state audio recording of Police
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Very important..
The police often feel they have every right to beat you or arrest you if they feel you are not properly subservient.
And the police still wonder why people do not trust them and do not want to help them.
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The police record you with both video and audio...
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See http://www.rcfp.org/taping/quick.html for information on if you can record a conversation. The federal law says that you must have the consent of one member of the conversation but if the state law is stronger then it is what is enforced.
New Hampshire you need consent of all parties and if not then: "However, it is only a misdemeanor if a party to a communication, or anyone who has the consent of only one of the parties, intercepts a telecommunication or oral communication. N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann § 570-A:2-I. Misdemeanors are punishable by imprisonment up to one year. N.H. Rev. Stat. Ann § 625:9."
So when pulled over he should have stated that he was recording this conversation and asked for the consent of the officer. If the officer says no he cannot, he should have simply stated that "I also refuse to consent to being recorded by a party that is not myself."
Alternatively he could have requested to have a second officer to be called in to witness the traffic stop.
After challenge the charges and press additional charges against the officer for wiretapping if the box is checked that the car has a video camera recording the stop.
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The judge even acknowledge that even though she was trying to prove child abuse on the part of the father the law was clear and it is the responsibility of congress to sort this out.
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The Weare, NH police department is corrupt... so corrupt, in fact, that its boss made some baseless accusations of child pornography against one of political enemies, forcing the accused to ask the local DA to clear him (and he was indeed cleared!).
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I was confused by the wording too.
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For more info, Google Palmer's, Weare, NH
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Live Free or Die
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unacceptable!
Keep an eye out you stupid thug, we will be watching you. The Live Free or Die state doesn't put up with that kind of crap.
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Confused...
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Shouldn't the Gov. or the Att. Gen. just tell the cops to knock it off? Why do they need a law?
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As far as the Weare police are concerned, they are Judge and Jury with no need for a lawyer because they are right. I got pulled over for speeding. When I fought the ticket the cop showed up slightly intoxicated. The judge shook his head and dismissed charges.
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the issue is two-party consent
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Put the town of Weare
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Especially when they make it a crime to do so.
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Bumper Sticker
Then the officer can be considered informed and consent is implied until refusal to consent is explicitly stated.
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Of course as others others have pointed out it is about the watchers needing to be watched and a double standard.
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Legal Defense Fund
http://bikerbilldefense.chipin.com/biker-bill-defense-fund
Can you spare five bucks to help establish some case law to prevent this kind of abuse? The prosecution has no need to raise such a fund, so the odds against fixing this are stacked in favor of the wrong option. Please help.
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This thing is turning into a stasi police state.
The Weare police targeted this guy, plain and simple. Was he charged with any crime at the stop or given a ticket for any violation? Plus the police knew he was on the phone and knew someone was listening. The person on the other end could of been recording the call. I do know that the police had been targeting and harassing patrons of this establishment. This was seemingly an attempt to drive away business from the shop owner, which is why the libertarians were there supporting him. One could argue that the police had a grudge against people supporting a local guy, who is handicapped, I might add. And targeted one of the people leaving. Who also happens to be big on recording police.
Popcorn? The Weare police also recently stopped an old lady that was leaving the same place. She blew a 0.0 but the police talked her into coming down to the station to blow again. She still blew a 0.0 at the station and somehow they impounded her car. Thats at least how I heard it.
These police are thieves and deserve a night in lockup.
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Absurd.
What is it that the police are truing to hide? Aren't they public servants? What is it that the cop in this case is afraid of being caught doing? The double standards that abound for the gun weilding sociopaths and the rest of us are absurd and need to be eliminated. Cops should be on the record, every moment of every shift. Unless they DO have something to hide like most of us think and realize they do.
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Wiretap might stick under NH law
I'd say it's the cops responsibility to check for guns and tape recorders.
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implied consent when THEY give notice
I couldn't find any case law in Washington State on this specific point.
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