Even With A Very Leaky Paywall, Noticeable Decline In NY Times Traffic
from the ad-revenues-will-grow... dept
With the NY Times offering up its pretend paywall, part of the supposed idea was that the site was trying to figure out a way to retain its traffic and get people to pay -- a difficult balancing act for sure. So the way it did so was to set up a paywall that didn't really exist, hoping that some people would just pay anyway, but that traffic wouldn't decline. So far, it appears they're a bit off on that latter assumption. Some initial reports show that, in the immediate aftermath of the "not really a wall" going up, page views declined between 11 and 30% per day. That's an awful lot of potential ad revenue lost on a site that gets a lot of traffic. Perhaps it's made up by finding people who were willing to pay for the paywall, but if you had to guess which strategy is going to provide more growth going forward, would it be new paywall subscribers, or more ad revenue?Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Not so pretend...
Sad, since I liked the Times op eds... ah well.
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Also, there is a sponsor (Lincoln?) giving people free accounts for the rest of the year. This indicates that there is a fair amount of sponsorship/advertising money laying around out there. It might just be enough to keep the paywall from being a total disaster if there is some other company or group of companies willing to pick up the free subscriptions next year.
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My New Motto
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Response to: JC on Apr 12th, 2011 @ 8:27pm
We do not know how many paid subscriptions the are and how much that offsets revenue losses.
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Hmmm, let's see, make it more expensive and harder to get to...I don't understand why fewer people would show up. Completely brain boogering.
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Mildly Mischaracterized
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Re: Mildly Mischaracterized
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Typical Misinformation
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Paywall
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Re: Re: Mildly Mischaracterized
If you are not a paying subscriber to the Times, you are not their customer. You are their product.
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Re: Re: Re: Mildly Mischaracterized
its not like there aren't loads of alternative source.
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Re: Re: Re: Mildly Mischaracterized
Does it make any more sense to arbitrarily keep out the 'product' ?
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Re: Paywall
Yes, that is not the current paywall. It is a much older registration wall I recall it used to have. But after hitting it a few times, I gave up on that site.
If it were not for techdirt, I would not even know they had changed the paywall to a much more confusing thing (and which sometimes will not ask "please register"). How many people gave up on that site because of previous "experiments", and will not know it is now (somewhat) more accessible? And even if they know (like I do now), will they change their perception of that site as "useless"? And more relevant to the current discussion, will the current "experiment" mean several people will ignore that site in the future, even if they later give up on any paywall/registration wall?
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The first time I hit a pay wall I say F&%k this S#!t.
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Inside their head
Does the New York Times offer up a level of quality that other news sources don't? Do they offer more 'truthiness' in their news stories? Do they deliver the content faster or in a format thats more appealing?
If the product you are trying to sell is being given away freely elsewhere, you have to make your product better somehow. Is nytimes.com better?
Also searching news.google.com for source:new_york_times seems to be an easy way to jump the fence.
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But here's the interesting thing: Once the paywall went up, I discovered that my method for downloading the paper wasn't affected by it. I can still download the whole thing everyday for free. But since there's a price, I think it's even more valuable and have started reading it during the week as well. So my traffic has increased due to the firewall.
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Response to: Donna on Apr 13th, 2011 @ 4:57am
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> for the rest of the year
Been done. Three words:
Slate versus Salon.
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Re: Typical Misinformation
I agree. The revenue from all those subcribers will make them Thousandaires!
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Re: Response to: Donna on Apr 13th, 2011 @ 4:57am
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Devil's Advocate
I've been following the Times on Alexa and Quantcast and the time leading up to the paywall was wild, and the time after the paywall seems to have simply leveled off, if anything.
I think that data will be more indicative of the Times' situation when we get nearer to the 30-day mark from the initiation of the paywall. And even then, I suspect that the Times will be rather free in handing out accounts and letting in people who otherwise shouldn't be let it in, probably because they're terrified of the paywall being a failure and being forced to hear "Told'ja so!" from all of the websites that were, well, telling them so.
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The Times has no tech savvy
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Re: Re: Typical Misinformation
I agree. The revenue from all those subcribers will make them Thousandaires!
Back in the hey-day of newspapers, that was big bucks!
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My own experience
I usually read the article and if I want to save it for myself, I hit print, copy it, and then send myself a copy. Evidently hitting print triggers the paywall in a way that just reading the article as separate pages does not. So now I still read the article, but don't set it as a single page or a print copy. That eliminates 1/3 of all reading I was doing because I don't get to do those actions.
In other words, I am still reading as many NY Times articles online as always, but I am not taking the additional steps to view the article in print version or as a single page. If there are many readers like me, there will be a drop in page views without a corresponding drop in readership.
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Re: Re: Response to: Donna on Apr 13th, 2011 @ 4:57am
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At $50 per year, I happily paid
Now they want to charge me $35 per month ($420/year). That's more than their news is worth to me. If I want to restrict my reading to one or another of my devices, I can get it for $20 (iPad) or $15 (iPhone), with unlimited web browsing. I am currently considering whether $15 per month, $180 per year, is worth it to me; it might be. But until I decide, the number of articles I read there is way down. I just glance at their home page and move on. I am saving my 20 views against the possibility of another major event, like the recent ones in Japan, or more congressional stupidity.
I don't live in their area (near NYC); I live near Boston. Though it may have (had?) the same owners, boston.com is far inferior; I don't even look at their home page, though they are connected to the best of the print newspapers from around here. I do not subscribe to a newspaper; when I did, the dead trees just piled up, mostly unread.
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