Modern Art: $5 Million Worth Of Unauthorized Downloads On A Hard Drive On Display

from the can't-be-too-many-songs dept

Tue, Aug 23rd 2011 1:20am — Mike Masnick

TheNextWeb has an amusing story about a new art exhibit, called 5 Million Dollars, 1 Terabyte which is, of course, merely a hard drive with some unauthorized downloads on it. There's apparently a pdf file that lists out what's on the hard drive, but as with the author of the article, I was unable to get it to open. Of course, given how the industry seems to value "infringement" these days, I would imagine it doesn't need that many files to reach $5 million.

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Crosbie Fitch (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 1:26am

The Total Music Vortex is nigh
I'm reminded of The Total Music Vortex. These things 'worth $5m' are soon going to be traded on the black market for $5.
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Still a Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 1:59am

Re: The Total Music Vortex is nigh
I wish I could (Legally) have the entire culture and scientific collection of humanity on a pen-drive for my keyring.
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Shane C (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:03am

Contents of the PDF file.
It opens up fine in Ubuntu's Document Viewer:

"5�Million�Dollars�1�Terrabyte"��
Contents�� Dowload�Link��File�Size�Value��
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Artlantis�� http://tinyurl.com/3ufc292��.5GB��1,200
Autodesk�Motion�Builder��http://tin yurl.com/3kk85d4��1.6GB��3,500
Soft�Image�Face�Robot��http://tinyurl.com/3gm8w2m�� .5GB��95,000
AutoCAD�MAP�3d��http://tinyurl.com/3p53sgp��1GB��6,0 00
AutoCAD�Mega�Pack��http://tinyurl.com/3k47a6n��80GB��95,000
Autodesk�AutoC AD��http://tinyurl.com/42camov��3GB��1,000
Rosetta�Stone�Language�Pack�� http://tinyurl.com/3zcwxog��33GB��15,000
Complete�n64�Game�Collection��http://tinyurl.com /3k33rju��7GB��4,000
Font�Collection��http://tinyurl.com/3bnc28e��21GB ��80,000
Nintendo�DS�Rom�Collection��http://tinyurl.com/3kepkj4��137GB��145,000
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Osprey�Book�Collection��http://t inyurl.com/3e4asmo��39GB��180,000
Fiction�Library��http://tinyurl.com/3nfuyna ��23GB��400,000
Programming�Book�Collection��http://tinyurl.com/3l3lps4��18GB��18 ,000
PC�Games�1979-2001��http://tinyurl.com/3dvu5ym��130GB��150,000
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Sorry about the formatting, I tried to align it from the PDF the best I could.
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Crosbie Fitch (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:04am

Re: Re: The Total Music Vortex is nigh
Aaron Swartz would sympathise. A pity it's still illegal to share mankind's knowledge, or be found loitering in a library with intent to do so: qv http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/reddit-founder-arrested-for-excessive-jstor-download s.ars
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Prisoner 201, 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:13am

That dude is totally going to be bodyslammed by a SWAT team any second.

Serves him right for being a pedo-terrorist that steals from artists!
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Colin (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:13am

You imagine it wouldn't take much??????
Your own article earlier in the day spoke to the appeal of the judges reduction of the Jammie Thomas jury award. At $80K per song, that drive would only need 63 songs on it to blow though the $5M if one were to plug it in and make it available via file sharing network.
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Shane C (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:14am

Contents of the PDF file.
The PDF file opened fine under Ubuntu's Document Viewer. That was the easy part. Reformatting for here, and getting it past the spam filter was a bit harder.

Imagine there is the appropriate "http colon slash slash" in front of the tinyurl.

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Yea, the formatting still sucks, sorry. Best I can do.
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Still a Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:20am

Re: Re: Re: The Total Music Vortex is nigh
When I am doing research-type stuff, CRTL-F is by far my best friend when trying to search multiple electronic copies of books.

I remember that article. *Sigh* Scientific journals. I really wonder where all the money goes that they require.

Scientists (etc) submit papers for free, other scientists then review papers for free, Journal charges money.

Scientists use their submissions and editor status to try and get public or industry (and son on)funding for their research.

I think a UK body is trying to start a more reasonable setup. Unfortunately the current journals have high impact factors/pretty entrenched so it can seriously impede young researchers, with limited (or no) papers to their names, taking a risk submitting to practically unknown journals.
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Crosbie Fitch (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:39am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Fortunately, it's not yet illegal to be in possession of infringing copies (though I wouldn't be surprised if it is, if there is intent to distribute).

I'd guess that the artist of this exhibit does not claim to have manufactured the copy/copies within it, e.g. "Some bloke in Marakesh gave it to me as a freebie when I bought a rug".
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:44am

He should've just saved himself some energy and put one song on a cheap six year old thumb drive. They'll still think it's worth $5 million worth of pirated content.
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Just John (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:50am

My kind of art
I like it, the simplicity, the clean lines, a very unassuming piece there.

We are talking about the HDD, right?
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mike allen (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:58am

nice little exhibit but why not plugged in.
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The eejit (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 2:58am

Re: My kind of art
I like the software included when you buy the HDD. Seems like a bargain to me.
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The eejit (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 3:36am

Re:
To avoid the inevitable BSA lawsuits (that's Business Software Alliance, not the Bastarding Suck-up Arseholes).
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Crosbie Fitch (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 3:57am

It could just be empty though
It could just be a demonstration that privacy ethically denies copyright holders and anyone else access to see if their monopoly has been infringed.
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Beech, 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:12am

I just hope he does not try to sell this piece of art work, if he does the black RIAA helicopters will swoop in guns a-blazing
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infinidiv (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:43am

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Total Music Vortex is nigh
I completely agree on those issues, luckily though the open access community is really growing. I remember talking to some people 1-2 years ago and having them disagree completely with my belief that open access would take off and likely overtake any but the very best journals. Lo and behold PLOS is now one of the biggest and I think their idea of publishing all well done research (in PLOS One and letting the commentaries and ratings decide what is most relevant) is going to replace the old system pretty soon... just have to wait for the non-internet generation to retire ;)
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mrtraver (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:56am

infirngment
Is posting a photo of a drive with copied software also considrered infringement?
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mrtraver (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:57am

[edit: "infringement"]
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Kevin (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:57am

Quibble
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be post-modern art? If I understand my artist g/f correctly, a modernist wouldn't consider this art at all. :)
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ethorad (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:02am

Re: Quibble
Not just modernists who wouldn't consider this art ...

But then art is in the eye of the beholder
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Prisoner 201, 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:06am

Re:
Are you kidding? For this pedo-terrorist, they will surely use nukes!
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Richard (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:12am

Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Fortunately, it's not yet illegal to be in possession of infringing copies

Of course , if they are held in dynamic RAM, they are re-copied many times every second - so I guess it would technically be illegal.

(Posted just to make clear how nonsensical copyright law is - in the light of modern technology.)
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:29am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
You're an accessory to this crime! And because I read it, now I'm an accessory. Crime is illegal!
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Still a Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:30am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Total Music Vortex is nigh
Wandering over to the PLOS One website. I really like the open source possibility of research, now we just need to get everyone on a "sci-twitter" so people can get answers to experimental problems on the fly :)

I have to agree that the non-internet generation do hold up progress (somewhat) with regards to new innovations while select members embrace it wholeheartedly.

I can see social networking etc being particularly important with regards to informing the non-scientific public after different issues. Mostly newspapers and tabloid aren't really qualified to explain new research, giving a case of Chinese whispers and lowered public trust in the scientific (etc) community.
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Crosbie Fitch (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:42am

Re: Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
They've thought of that one. Ephemeral copies are exempt.

This is why streaming is ok, but sharing is WRONG. Duh?

Of course copyright is nonsensical, but it's very lucrative if you're powerful enough to wield it effectively. Trouble is, because it's lucrative most people think it can be all bad. This is probably why kids aren't taught the unethical and uneconomic trade-off between monopoly and liberty in high school. Monopolies enrich a few at a hundredfold hidden cost to the majority.
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Rob, 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:45am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Only $46K for 124GB of music? I bet the RIAA would beg to differ!
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 5:51am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
The properties of the PDF file show it was created on Mac OS X 10.6.7 from Microsoft Excel, probably using some sort of built-in PDF generator ("Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext").

I am guessing the artist never even tried to open the PDF file on Windows.

As an aside: "terrabyte"? Really?
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Nina Paley (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:06am

Quote of the Day
CRIME IS ILLEGAL!
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E. Zachary Knight (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:07am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Nintendo DS ROM collection is listed twice with 2 different file sizes and values. Perhaps that is a mistake?
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taoareyou (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:20am

Question
Doesn't the hard drive manufacturer own the copyright on the device? Did he get their permission to display it? Taking a photo of a copyrighted work is also infringement.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:21am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Still perplexed on where they get the numbers from. Merely their market value? Certainly most of these must be registered with the copyright office and "worth" 150K per infringement

(and in the case of, say, NES/SNES/GBC/NeoGeo/etc ROMs, old PC games, and so on, the value is questionable because even Nintendo can't figure out all the license-holders and cut deals with them to get them on Virtual Console, so the market value is more like $0 because nobody's around to sell OR sue)
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The eejit (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:24am

Re: Quibble
This isn't post-modern art; this is cyber-punk art.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:25am

Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
It is. It's two torrents that overlap, carrying most of the same games twice.
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JEDIDIAH, 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:27am

Riding the tangent...
The P in PDF stands for Portable.

If the built in MacOS PDF generation tools create PDF files that are Windows hostile then that's an important thing to be aware of.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 7:27am

Re: Quote of the Day
..and you are... clueless.
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grumpy (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 7:53am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
And enriching the few is contrary to our "capitalistic" culture how...? Quotes as I don't consider our current corporatocracy capitalistic ("too big to fail" - that's NOT capitalism).
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 8:00am

Re: Re: Quibble
Its obviously pirate art, and since it is held in a public space is also a public performance. Since you know what is on it, when you see it, you might be inspired to hum a few bars.
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Crosbie Fitch (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 8:12am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Yes, the corporatocratic state is in power at the moment and finds monopolies perfectly sound (though it's having second thoughts about patent), but human beings (when they're not busy trying to figure out why handing a $trillion from the taxpayer to the banks, or printing money to do so, is bad) do outclass the state in power terms, and so it's this majority that needs to be educated, e.g. by TechDirt as to what is in its interest as opposed to that of the corporate state.
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Zot-Sindi, 23 Aug 2011 @ 8:15am

Re: Re: Quote of the Day
..and you are... clueless.

we know you are
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egghead (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 8:19am

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
My main concern is with the prices of the font collections. $80k for 21GB of fonts, ~$3.72/MB? Of course, Adobe has to top that and have $20k for only about 71MB of fonts, ~$281.69/MB.

It really makes me wonder how those valuations were determined; and if from the companies themselves, it's no wonder their software has so many unauthorized downloads. Maybe if they would restructure their pricing to reach more consumers, they'd see greater gains.
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Atkray (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 8:40am

I couldn't help but think about some poor high school kid dropping it in his backpack, then getting charged with staling 5 mil worth of art.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 8:58am

Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Fonts are big money, and take up very little space.

A random sampling:
------------------------------------------------
Adobe Font Folio 11 $2599.00
Agency Complete Family Pack $900.00
Neue Helvetica Complete Family Pack $961.00
Palatino Sans Complete Family Pack $640.00
Linotype Nautilus Complete Family Pack $670.00
ITC Designer Collection $1,299.00
Benton Sans Complete Family Pack $4,608.00
Ibis Complete Family Pack $2,592.00
Stainless Complete Family Pack $1,152.00
------------------------------------------------

Looking at pricing for fonts, is starting to make me feel like the $699 buy in for Photoshop is a steal. I'll assume though that the pricing is high because a lot of work went into these fonts, and they don't sell a ton. Photoshop on the other hand, would sell a TON more if the price was more reasonable.
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Doug D (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 9:21am

Re: Re: Quibble
No no, art is in the eye of the Police and they see no apparent esthetic value in this display.
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JEDIDIAH, 23 Aug 2011 @ 9:30am

Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
This thing causes the official version of the acrobat reader under Linux. Does so in the browser or on the desktop. Makes you wonder if it's a problem with Acrobat in general.

Be kind of funny if it is.

...this gives me an excuse to logon to my Mac. It's been awhile.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 9:35am

Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
It's not the "we'll sue you" cost, it's the retail cost.
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Legolas2112 (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 9:44am

The PDF in Firefox 5 and Windows Vista
Opened just fine.
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Greevar (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 10:20am

Re: Re: Quote of the Day
Congratulations, you won the "commit a random act of unwarranted ridicule" contest! You get one million jackass points and permanent impotence so you may never reproduce. Stand tall and proud, you jackass!
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Greevar (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 11:05am

I like this.
This photo of a HDD filled with infringing content is a prime example recursive mass infringement. It will surely cause an infinite loop that will incinerate the RIAA and MPAA in a blaze of lolcats and esoteric Linux distributions!
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Alien Bard, 23 Aug 2011 @ 12:25pm

Re: Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
Photoshop usually sells its older versions for a substantial discount just before they discontinue them. They also sell student versions much cheaper. I purchased mine for under $100. I still download and use the newer versions, but despite what the Mafiaa claim I enjoy having the legal version on the shelf and knowing I helped support a good company. If I used it professionally I would upgrade to the newer version as well.As I often tell people it is one of the few programs actually worth the seemingly high price. IMHO.
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Alien Bard, 23 Aug 2011 @ 12:32pm

Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
It opened just fine for me (using 'Foxit PDF Reader' under 'FireFox' in 'Windows 7').
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Alien Bard, 23 Aug 2011 @ 12:33pm

Re:
According to the RIAA it would be!
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ltlw0lf (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 12:40pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
("too big to fail" - that's NOT capitalism)

Actually, since the government is assuming control of those corporations when they "buy them out", it is more "National Socialism" that we're talking about there.

Great, now you made me go an godwin the thread.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 1:40pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Contents of the PDF file.
"I still download and use the newer versions"

"I enjoy having the legal version on the shelf and knowing I helped support a good company."

So helping them, one time, for under $100 justifies you pirating their later, much improved versions?

"If I used it professionally"
I read this line all the time as justification to pirate *Insert expensive software title here*

Then you tell people how it's worth the high price, yet you didn't and won't pay the high price yourself?

I've never seen Adobe sell discounted older versions themselves. Each time a new version of something comes out, the old version disappears off of their site. I'm not aware of an Adobe Outlet.

At the same time, I truly do believe the stories about how Adobe tries, but not too hard, to keep piracy at bay. The stories about getting people hooked on it, so that when they (the kids) do finally get jobs in design, they will demand Adobe software to do their job properly.

Hell, I did it with my boss, only I had a legit version at home, and wanted the same thing at work, to do my job properly. Either pirated or legit, I still would have asked my boss to buy it for me at work.
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Mark Gisleson (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 3:42pm

Re: Contents of the PDF file.
I figured it was a short list. I've always estimated the fines for downloads on my 1TB drive to be in excess of one billion dollars. I've blogged about it countless times but, having no seizable assets or steady income, the RIAA/MPAA for some reason never contact me....
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2011 @ 3:55pm

I would rather not have had a connection to The Pirate Bay on my Permanent Record. Maybe make those tinyurls previewable?
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Werner Van Belle, 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:31pm

Re: A little rant against open access
I really don't understand why people need things like 'open access'. Just publish your own stuff on your own site and keep the bloody copyright. After spending decades _paying_ journals to publish articles, it would be very unwise now to play in their hands again an embrace this 'open access' nonsense because now they can take your (or any other open accessed) work and advertise next to it, without your consent. I believe the better strategy for researchers to be:

a- keep the copyright over your own work
b- publish it on your own website. Don't bother going through journals
c- prohibit the university (state funded body) from asserting intellectual property (so called) rights.

PS: these crude ideas were crystalized after spending 10 years in various research centra and I tell you: there is no hope for universities. They are filled with politics, not with content. They don't create ideas, they inventorize them (badly) and the egos of the groupleaders are in inverse proportion to their value.
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niteshifter, 23 Aug 2011 @ 4:59pm

Re:
Like this: http://tinyurl.com/preview.php ? Or did you mean for someone else to have a PB connection on their "Permanent Record" on your behalf?
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pjcamp (profile), 23 Aug 2011 @ 6:15pm

interesting zen moment
If it is art, then it is fair use and is not a copyright violation. If it is a copyright violation, then it can't be art so what is it doing in a gallery?
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That Anonymous Coward (profile), 24 Aug 2011 @ 1:16am

No your honor, all of these DVDs are part of my modern art project.
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Anonymous Coward, 24 Aug 2011 @ 3:50am

Re: Photoshop Lust
"Photoshop on the other hand, would sell a TON more if the price was more reasonable."

Why bother paying even $10 for Photoshop? Gimp is free and it has a Linux version. Gimp costs you nothing to try. Get yourself familiar with Gimp and your tragic case of Photoshop lust will be completely cured!
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That Anonymous Coward (profile), 24 Aug 2011 @ 6:47am

Re:
Just tell them you were mislead there and it will all work out. Why your terrified of having a record of you having visited a website is confusing, there is no law stopping you from visiting TPB.
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Prisoner 201, 25 Aug 2011 @ 11:08am

Re: Re:
Yet.
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Doug, 6 Sep 2011 @ 1:08pm

Re: Re: Photoshop Lust
Gimp's interface is absolutely bizarre and a very real hurdle for pretty much everyone I've tried to introduce it to. None of my expectations from other graphics programs have translated to it at all; I was pretty much starting from scratch, and I still feel like I only know how to use about 5% of it. I've actually spent less time with photoshop than with Gimp but I know how to do way more in photoshop.
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