Officials Receive Requests To Censor 79 Websites Under Spain's SOPA-Like Sinde Law
from the censorhsip-is-fun dept
Thanks to tremendous pressure from the US entertainment industry and the US government, Spain passed the Sinde law, putting in place a Spanish version of SOPA that creates a blacklist of naughty sites to be burned at the stake... or, failing that, have access blocked by ISPs. The Sinde law has been in effect for a month, and Spain's Ministry of Culture has admitted to receiving over 300 complaints calling for the death of 79 sites. The copyright commission is investigating the allegations and has not yet shut down any sites. Either way, this gives you a sense of the entitlement feeling of many in the industry. Given the chance (and the original SOPA gave them the chance), they will claim all sorts of horrible things about very useful services -- and then order them shut down. We know, for a fact, that takedown systems like the DMCA get regularly abused. Expanding such powers by allowing for the complete closure of sites is something that will be widely abused too. Complaints targeting so many sites upfront certainly suggests that the law itself is quite problematic.Make no mistake about it. This new law is a censorship law, that allows private parties to make claims that could lead to competitors being knocked offline. The Spanish public was against it, as were many politicians. But the supporters of the bill finally got it through, and the fallout is a big bureaucracy and lots of accusations flying -- accusations that may never be dealt with in a real trial. Letting private companies effectively run a system for censorship, and seeing it being used in action, should worry most people. Unfortunately, "most people" seems to exclude the big copyright industry players and the politicians they love.
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Generalissimo Francisco Franco's ghost
Viva España!
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You make it sound like they were trying to hide the numbers. Seems like a pretty reasonable count for the initial 30 day period. That means on average about 4 complaints per site. Doesn't seem like just random moves, does it?
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SIGH
I used to like watching some TV shows when I had the time. I used to like taking my girlfriend to the movies or buying movies for us to watch. I used to like finding new music. I used to like filling up my bookshelves. I can't let myself do any of those things anymore. All of this money-grabbing greed-driven fucking bullshit has simply put me off of almost all media.
And you know what? It's the best goddamned thing I could have ever done for myself. My girlfriend and I take our library books to the park and read them. We hike. We go see live theater. It's wonderful. I've lost 12 pounds. My girlfriends buttcheeks firmed up.
Fuck big media, remove them from your lives. You'll fucking love it.
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nothing different to any other country, really!
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30 days
300 complaints
79 sites
AND NO SITES HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN
they are being looked into, you said it yourself, so how is this abuse??? censorship?????
IT ISN'T, its you making up a sky is falling story to justify your position, which is becoming laughable
you have an entitlement feeling about anything you don't agree with is censorship and evil and everything must be free....
your horse is dead, let it go
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Finally...
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I see you've so very ragefully covered the points which were brought up in the article, and then tacked on a little ad-hom for good measure.
4/10. Style, but no substance.
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The point of the complaints is to get the sites taken down.
To use your analogy, just because the sky is falling slowly doesn't mean it's not falling...
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I guess if by "entitlement" you mean demanding the ability to stop people from stealing your shit then I guess they are acting entitled. As opposed to the "Entitled Generation" who feel that they are entitled to download music even if it is from illegal sources, download movies from illegal sources, and download cracked games from illegal sources.
"This new law is a censorship law, that allows private parties to make claims that could lead to competitors being knocked offline."
When you are competing against your own product offered illegally for free it really isn't competition is it?
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However, as a longtime music podcaster who *does* seek out music from small indie labels and unsigned artists to share with people, I'd be remiss if I didn't suggest giving indie music podcasts a try, because there's LOTS of great music out there that has no ties to big media. Start at musicpodcasting.org and go from there. You'll be glad you did.
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Where is the due process or just because an *AA said it was a "Bad Place" the government buys off on them as trusted reporters?
Your rant is noted and dismissed as the frustrated mumblings of a control freak. When the public of Spain has a say in this ramrodding of the law, then I'll bow to your mumblings as insightful.
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Keep on suing, record labels. Keep it up. You're just putting your own methods (and quite possibly your industry as you know it) into the ground. And good riddance. Keep it goin'.
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The loss of due process isn't a bug, it's a feature!
Think of Due Process as quality control. The problem that the copyright industries face is that, with allegations of infringement running in the millions, they cannot afford quality control.
A loss of quality control means substantial number of innocents will be treated as copyright infringers: yet that is the only way to hope to throttle mass-scale infringement.
To the copyright industries, the Internet, and any service and user on it, is acceptable collateral damage.
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This is news?
First of all, the laws are new and it is likely that these 79 sites were being watched by various copyright holders prior to the passage of the law. In fact, their activities likely provided the motivation for pursuing the law in the first place.
As such, if they did not update their site to become compliant with the new law, it stands to reason that they would be targeted right away.
Further, as to the sheer number, this site has mentioned the whack-a-mole effect a number of times. In that instance, the industry is going to have a lot of targets.
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No stealing is happening, stop being a moron.
Oh, and perhaps if they offered legal services online, maybe people wouldn't go for the free option? What an astounding thought! If legal services existed, people wouldn't use the illegal ones! Wow!
"When you are competing against your own product offered illegally for free it really isn't competition is it?"
Only if you're the sort of idiot who thinks that price=value and that's the only factor you can use to compete. Reality begs to differ, as ever.
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Forget patent wars, get your competitors' sites taken down!
If all that is triggered by this process is an investigation of those sites, but they are allowed to continue as is, then great. If they are taken down in the interim, espcially if it is over the actions of third parties, then no, that's not good. And we have yet to see a law of this sort that isn't abused by the content crybabies. They'll find some loophole to use to persecute those sites they don't like and keep pounding until they think they've got their way. Then they'll ramp things up more, or buy some more laws.
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Like you said, you make NO SENSE.
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