Both Republicans And Democrats Considering Supporting Basic Internet Freedom Principles With New Platforms

from the follow-through-matters dept

Wed, Aug 15th 2012 2:27pm — Mike Masnick

There's been an awful lot of important talk about internet freedom and its importance this year. It's certainly permeated the political sphere. But is it a national political agenda item? We'll see. The Republican National Convention kicks off in a couple weeks, followed a few weeks after that by the Democratic National Convention. The folks at Demand Progress are urging both parties to add basic internet freedom issues to their official platforms. According to US News, both parties are considering it, with the Republicans saying they'll be discussing the topic at the RNC, while the Democrats have said that early drafts of their platform "advocated Internet freedom globally," though its unclear if the provision remained in.

Either way, both seem to at least recognize that this the internet is a major area of interest for a very large number of voters.

That said, just having it in a party platform may be a bit meaningless if they don't live up to it. But recognizing the issue is, at the very least, a first step in truly understanding how important it is. I doubt very much that the leadership of either party truly understands the importance of internet freedom, or is really willing to go all out in support of it. Yet. But, building up interest and general support -- along with the recognition that voters care about this stuff -- is at least an important first step in having politicians recognize that they can't just sell out internet freedom when lobbyists or "friendly" repressive governments come calling.

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:Lobo Santo (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 2:34pm

How do you tell if a politician is lying?
Their lips are moving.
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Glen, 15 Aug 2012 @ 2:35pm

That said, just having it in a party platform may be a bit meaningless if they don't live up to it. It would be enough for their overseers at the **AA's to have kittens.
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Aug 2012 @ 2:44pm

Given the orwellian doublethink in America I doubt this will really be all that good for inernet freedom.

The conservatives aren't conservative and the liberals want to ban all the things
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Wally (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 3:03pm

Grammar
As my wife (teaches High School English) always says to her students
"The Internet makes my job a ton easier. In my class, if you make a mistake, all I'd have to do is make red marks, but of you get something spelled wrong on the Internet [or your grammar wrong], God help your soul."

Someone is going to ask how I connect this to the article and it's simply this:

Both sides of the political spectrum in law making are totally unprepared. Make one mistake or break one promise you make to the Internet community and it will most certainly be the end of your political career.

Don't get me wrong, it is nice that they are contemplating and thinking about us in a "get a voter" perspective, but my experience tells me they will be in a world of shock when they are suddenly held accountable for any freedoms they try to take away. Especially from American users....we love our freedom.
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Chosen Reject (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 3:08pm

Re: Grammar
...but *of* you get something spelled wrong on the Internet [or your grammar wrong], God help your soul."
God help you.
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Aug 2012 @ 3:16pm

Any "internet freedom" law would probably be similar to laws like the recent "patent reform" law; lip service that solves no problems and potentially creates new ones.

However, I suspect that their seemingly receptive feedback means that the political world hasn't forgotten the SOPA backlash. That'd be good news for the constituents; fear of public outcry weakens the lobbyists' hold over them.
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Aug 2012 @ 3:17pm

Re: Re: Grammar
Satan loves bad grammar?
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John Fenderson (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 3:21pm

Re:
The conservatives aren't conservative and the liberals want to ban all the things

In US politics, there are effectively no conservatives or liberals at all anymore. Just one or two token old-guard individuals.
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Aug 2012 @ 4:42pm

Re:
"The political world hasn't forgotten the SOPA backlash." That's the most important part here. They now realize we are watching them much more closely than before. SOPA was really bad for the political world. Honestly its got at least me watching their moves way more closely and with much more scrutiny even on non-internet related things.
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Wally (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 4:43pm

Re: Re: Grammar
Chosen Reject, according to my wife, my soul is in a lot of trouble....she saw my commentary about the revisions to FISA 2007 and FISA 2008 =P

And no first AC to respond, it is not Satan who doesn't like bad grammar, it's God you have to worry about. God sends you to see Satan for bad grammar where you are forced to see it and listen to it every day =P

I LOL'ed with both of your comments (my wife did too).
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Wally (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 4:52pm

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John Fenderson I can definitely relate to your comment. I remember a day (im sure you can too) when it really was left or right and now a days it definitely become a blur. I can no longer find conservative values in the politicians on the conservative right, nor can you find the ultra high humanities and tree hugging (term used as endearment) on the liberal left.
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ahow628 (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 5:56pm

Global includes the US?
"advocated Internet freedom globally,"

Can we get confirmation that 'globally' includes the US? I'm having my doubts.
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Rekrul, 15 Aug 2012 @ 7:31pm

Platform issues are like condoms. They insulate the user during the act, but once they've served their purpose, they're discarded with a great deal of disdain.
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BentFranklin (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 10:26pm

There's this old joke about two guys in the woods and a bear appears. On guy starts putting on his tennis shoes and the other guy says, "What are you doing, you can't outrun a bear, and the other guy says "I just have to outrun you."

I am distraught that the Republicans are going to take the lead on internet freedom and steal what should be a Democratic strength. But the Democrats have been corrupted by Hollywood and lawyer money so even if they do end up taking a better position than the Republicans, it will only be by a little bit, because they don't have to outrun the bear, just the other guy.
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Aug 2012 @ 11:31pm

Re: Re:
WTF? Rich + white = evil?

You're a racist weathist bastard!
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Anonymous Coward, 15 Aug 2012 @ 11:32pm

Re: Re: Re:
*wealthist
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Ophelia Millais (profile), 15 Aug 2012 @ 11:33pm

I wonder if Demand Progress mentioned its strident support of Wikileaks when issuing this call to the Democratic and Republican parties. Regardless, I'd be surprised if either party crafted any kind of message defending the freedom of sites like Wikileaks, or whistleblowers in general.
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The eejit (profile), 16 Aug 2012 @ 12:46am

Re: Re:
Correction: there are crazies and moneymen for the most part. No-one who actually wants to do any major positivesx to change American society. And from the outside, the future's looking bleaker by the week.
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hegemon13, 16 Aug 2012 @ 6:55am

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Yeah, because Democrats are such lovers of liberty. Right. Give me a break. NEITHER party should be adding this to their platform because neither party has seen an authoritarian law they didn't love (as long as the other party didn't come up with it first).

Libertarian Party, Reform Party, Green Party -- these I could see. But neither Republicans nor Democrats have any intention to give "Internet freedom" anything more than lip service.
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Anonymous Coward, 16 Aug 2012 @ 8:51am

Re: How do you tell if a politician is lying?
Or their assistants fingers are twittering...
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Anonymous Coward, 16 Aug 2012 @ 8:52am

Re: Re: Re: Grammar
Satan also loves him some bad grandma....he's hot for those toothless randy old ladies....
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Anonymous Coward, 16 Aug 2012 @ 8:53am

Re: Re: Re: Grammar
You have a soul? Then don't bother applying for a job with the RIAA or MPAA.

You COULD always apply for a french HADOPI job....they're hungry down in the basement, can never get enough fresh soul juice.
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Dave, 16 Aug 2012 @ 1:21pm

Hmm
Having closely followed (from across the pond) all the legal shenanigans that USA politicians have tried to impose on the net - blatantly obvious that most were at the behest of Big Entertainment, I'll believe it when I see it. They've obviously only just woken up to the existence of people power and are afraid of being voted out of office if so much of a whisper is mentioned of any more bills, rules and regulations being introduced to stifle the net. A bit more serving of the people and not of industry would probably not go far amiss.
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anon, 18 Aug 2012 @ 6:19pm

Nooo
Seriously . there must be maybe a few basic laws against child porn and web attacks etc but once you let the cat out of the bag there is no getting it back in without a lot of fighting. Let them put laws in one area and they will start putting laws in all areas.
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