Making Movies 20 Years Ago vs. Today: A World Of Difference
from the two-podcasts dept
I recently listened to two very (very) different podcasts, but which really highlighted something kind of amazing: it's so much easier to make a movie today. We're talking a completely different world. Of course, most of us knew that already, and it's why we see things like many more movies being made today than ever before in the past. But between these two podcasts, what's driven home is how much the old system relied on gatekeepers, and how little the new system needs such gatekeepers.The first podcast was a recent episode of Kevin Smith & Scott Mosier's Smodcast, in which Smith digs (deep) into his archives to find a ton of old voicemail recordings that give you a taste of the process of making his original film, Clerks and actually getting it picked up and shown in theaters (it comes after the discussion of the war against sharks at the beginning, which is entertaining too...). At first I just thought it was kind of awesome to get that kind of behind-the-scenes look (or, listen) to all the people that had to "appreciate" Clerks before it was picked up by Miramax and became that indie film classic it shall forever remain. It's amazing to listen to all of those voicemails and go back 20 years and learn about what happened. But there are all sorts of people who have to get involved and become boosters of the film. Smith and Mosier were lucky that one influential guy caught the movie at their original showing in NY, and then he helped get a writeup by an influential reporter, who helped get others interested in the film, but each step of the way, a champion had to say "hey, you should send a tape to so-and-so."
But then I thought about just how different the world is today. While people can go through gatekeepers, we see an entire new generation of filmmakers (and other content creators) who don't need to hope that someone influential catches the flick in its only theater showing. They don't have to find "the" guy who sold indie films to studios. They don't have to find "the" reporter who writes about indie films. Yes, some of those things can help, but they can now use sites like YouTube and Vimeo to post the work (or snippets of it) online for free. They can use social media to build a following. They can use Kickstarter and TopSpin and other tools to make money. It's an entirely different world.
And that point was driven home when I listened to the very next podcast in my playlist, from Alec Baldwin's Here's the Thing podcast, in which he interviews two documentary filmmakers who basically made (controversial) films on effectively no budget at all. While the types of movies are quite different from Clerks, listening to the two podcasts, one after the other, you realize that the documentary filmmakers probably wouldn't even have attempted to make those films two decades ago.
It's an amazing new world for creative arts, with tremendous new opportunity. Those who are complaining that things are worse these days seem to be living in an alternate reality. If things are "worse," it's only because there may be more competition for attention -- which is a real challenge. But there's so much more opportunity and so many fewer gatekeepers needed, that it's difficult not to be excited for the kinds of creativity we're seeing today and will inevitably see in the future.
Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
Techdirt is one of the few remaining truly independent media outlets. We do not have a giant corporation behind us, and we rely heavily on our community to support us, in an age when advertisers are increasingly uninterested in sponsoring small, independent sites — especially a site like ours that is unwilling to pull punches in its reporting and analysis.
While other websites have resorted to paywalls, registration requirements, and increasingly annoying/intrusive advertising, we have always kept Techdirt open and available to anyone. But in order to continue doing so, we need your support. We offer a variety of ways for our readers to support us, from direct donations to special subscriptions and cool merchandise — and every little bit helps. Thank you.
–The Techdirt Team
Filed Under: alec baldwin, clerks, documentaris, history, kevin smith, movie making, movies
Reader Comments
Subscribe: RSS
View by: Time | Thread
[ link to this | view in thread ]
focus on STORY
and stop using fake special FX they look like crap a few years later
Hollywood is really pretty lame
and big content is dwarfed in revenue when compared to TECH
[ link to this | view in thread ]
The one way the RIAA is ahead of the MPAA in a positive way is that at least some people who work for the RIAA are recognizing that piracy is not the main thing that is killing them. A few people in the RIAA are struggling to come to grips with the new realities rather than setting up straw men. The MPAA might be able to save itself if it learned those lessons from the the few forward thinkers at the RIAA.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
'Brand Names' in a world of human names
With a population of 300+ million in the US and many more English speakers globally the chances of anyone having a unique name are; vanishingly slim. That is, unless they intentionally rename themselves; and even then there's only so much 'natural' namespace which can be exploited.
Worse are the cases; Pho whatever might be a good example. Find a local restaurant serving that style of food and chances are extreme that it's name is in use somewhere else.
What's needed is more than a name, it's a true (not the buzzword of the day version) 'web 2.0' feature; a collection of data establishing a unique identify, even when the 'name' parts are the same. Including some context to help narrow down the choice to the correct one.
In the case of movies, often collaborative efforts, this lends it's self to quite a few different aspects; existing stories/story universes, actors, directors, writers, production (editing/material/finance) groups, etc. Any one of these might be something a particular fan enjoys the work of.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
I can easily say that the best films I've seen in the last ten years have been documentaries. Then again maybe I'm just getting old and prefer reality over fantasy.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: 'Brand Names' in a world of human names
Greetings, then, from a statistical anomaly. :)
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Or atleast use the fake special FX like they did back in the 80's.
Gremlins, Blade Runner, The Dark Crystal. All of these still look great today, and far more 'realistic' than the modern CGI garbage everywhere now.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
Nah, more like the 'fantasy' these days sucks rotten ass. Most of it is so bland and tasteless, it's like they try to be mediocre on purpose.
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re:
The article's about independent filmmakers working outside of Hollywood. Do try to at least attack the correct target...
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
/troll
[ link to this | view in thread ]
cinema
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Re: Re:
[ link to this | view in thread ]
It is indeed an I
[ link to this | view in thread ]
It is indeed an interesting time to live
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Bad movies
we cannot hear the people speaking
the so called music is just soooooo Loud!
cannot enjoy the movie
it's like listening two station at the same time
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Yes, there is
even though this post is 7-year old, what it says still holds very much true. It's like they are mass producing the movies these days. honestly, they did make some horrible ones in the 90s too, but there were so many with substance. All you see now is men and women toting capes, hammers, and shields. Good movies are still being made but they are so easily upstaged. Nevertheless, I watch a great deal of movies and plenty of them are available here https://www.toptvtricks.com/nova-tv-apk-firestick/
[ link to this | view in thread ]
Movie making
As before and now the highest difference in movie like VFX and new technology of cameras. and also I love to download new movies from torrent https://torrents-proxy.com/ may you visit..
Well, big thanks to you write that topic as a discussion to refresh the old sense.
[ link to this | view in thread ]