Six Strikes Delayed Until 'Early Part' Of 2013
from the of-course-it-was dept
We heard rumors of this a couple weeks ago from people involved in some of the six strikes program at various ISPs, but the six strikes effort, already delayed from its original planned starting date of July until around now, has been pushed back again until "the early part of 2013." The Center for Copyright Information, which is administering the program, claims that it's due to "unexpected factors largely stemming from Hurricane Sandy," but we've heard that's mainly an excuse for some other problems that meant the plan was simply not ready for prime time. Either way, the program will certainly begin at some point... at which point ISPs and the entertainment industry will proceed to piss off some of their best customers for no good reason. Can't see how that's going to increase sales, but I guess all of those MPAA lawyers who have "anti-piracy" in their titles have to feel like they're contributing something to justify their salaries.
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I Told You So :-)
Did anyone have time to pick apart the Stroz Friedberg review of process which was released by the Center for Copyright Information? It was redacted, the better to be transparent with. :-) (Really. The announcement of the redacted report has a headline proclaiming transparency.) All the key details still seem to be treated as trade secrets. I think this is new, US citizens being accused of wrong doing by a trade-secret process.
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So yes, file sharers are their best customers.
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Re: I Told You So :-)
June 27:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120627/01050319504/big-isps-expected-to-start-six-strikes-pr ogram-this-weekend.shtml#c811
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120627/01050319504/big-isps-expe cted-to-start-six-strikes-program-this-weekend.shtml#c1685
The story so far, for those who came in late:
In March 2012, the news was that Six Strikes would start July 1. (This is the story which Techdirt reprinted (oops!) in late June.)
In Late June, the news was that Six Strikes would start in the "fall." (Source: Time Magazine)
On October 18, CCI announced that Six Strikes would start "over the course of the next two months." (Source: CCI blog posting)
And now, November 28, Six Strikes will start in early 2013.
Oh, what I would give to be a fly on the wall of the ISP tech offices trying to implement the large-scale, accurate matching of IP address reports to customers!!
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There are several perspectives on this. We're quick around here to say that file sharers are the industry's "best customers." Personally I think that is a bit of an exaggeration to say they are the best customers. But on the other hand there isn't much denying that file sharers are also customers, and it seems odd for any business to declare war on their own customers.
There is also a perspective that says pirates are just under served customers. A lot of piracy seems to be happening because legal products are either completely unavailable in certain markets or are only available with annoying restrictions, DRM, or prices that are too high. From this perspective file sharers could probably be even better paying customers if products were available under terms that were not so hostile toward customers.
Of course, the copyright apologists see the situation differently. They have gotten to the point where some of them admit that at least some pirates are customers. But they maintain that if there were stronger laws they would buy even more.
As far as file sharers being an ISP's best customers, it is probably not true. ISP's and wireless carriers like to talk about "bandwidth hogs" but the truth is that broadband costs have been dropping very fast over the last decade (at least). The actual bandwidth used by even a heavy user is probably among the cheapest parts of an ISP's costs. ISP's who also provide cable TV have a major issue with pirates and some other groups of users. There are increasing numbers of young people who are "cable cutters" that are doing without cable TV and are only subscribing to an Internet service. Cable TV service is very profitable. A lot of cable companies see pirates, Netflix, and Hulu as competition for Cable TV service. Some cable companies-ISP's might think that if there are fewer pirates there would be more people subscribing to TV service. Personally I think they are crazy if they believe that cutting off someone's internet is going to cause them to subscribe to cable TV. I think it is more likely that customers who have both TV and Internet subscriptions will cancel both if the company pisses them off by cutting the customer's internet service. It may be extremely short sighted of any ISP to cut off users when Google Fiber and other fiber services are threatening to provide alternate service with no strike programs at all.
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file sharers like to pay for higher speeds, and pay more to get it. this costs the isp a few nickels, the customer pays 50$, see the margins there?
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It's been said numerous times how this monitoring will work and you still have no idea what they're going to be doing?
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I'd like to be better informed if you have it how this will be implemented I'd like it.
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Call it a test run or beta or whatever, but this shit is already happening for real.
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I even came up with a new name for it.
Pyrex!
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Once they cross the t's in shill though, they'll just have shitt.
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Huh?
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I for one think that they(ISP's) are trying there hardest to make sure only the guilty get warnings but the problem is that the way IP addresses work that is impossible to guarantee 100%, and all it takes is one person taking an ISP to court and winning a settlement for false accusations to cause severe problems for the ISP not the content monopolist "note I did not say creators there".
I think the ISP's are very aware of how Hollywood has caused a lot of problems for those helping them, just look at what the DOJ might have to pay in damages to Kim Dotcom, and the Police in NZ are under investigation for doing things beyond what they have been authorised to do, like monitoring Dotcom illegally on behalf of Hollywood.
So Hollywood gets away with not having to pay any damages to those affected by the cost of failing, but reaps supposed rewards for the actions taken.
I would not be surprised if this never happens as there are too many cases where a court has said an ip address does not identify an infringer, and nobody expects the account holder to have the knowledge to monitor what is happening on there connection all the time and what files are being downloaded by all the individuals using the account.
For example in my situation i have given access to the internet to everyone that comes to visit so they can use it on there phones, i have also given access to a few people who come around regularly for games nights, and people who i let use my connection as they are friends.Now how am i supposed to monitor everything they do when they are using the connection, what software can i install to show me a clear list of all files uploaded and downloaded.
They also have a problem with some ISP's giving access to other routers via wifi so they can supply hotspots everywhere , well they do in the UK, now how would they identify who is using that router for whatever is being downloaded.Yes they can identify the amount of people using the router but not all of individuals activities.
Then you have the problem of internet cafes and libraries that are not going to be giving any customer details unless they have a court order and if all there traffic is routed though one ip address they need to identify which customer downloaded which files.
Sorry but even i can see that this would be a clusterfuck for the ISP's.
Watch this all come falling down before one person receives a warning. And who loses , the ISP's that have had to spend there time and money so that they look like they are at least trying to help Hollywood, even if they do not want to.
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Scare Tactics Work
One one has to look at the puritan self flagellation whips boom of the 1690's to see that this is surely going to be a success again now.
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Fixed/edited for accuracy.
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-being forced to essentially spy on my friends to make sure were all internet "lega"
-the cafes and other public hotspots, will either be forced to spen time a likely their own money putting in a system, whereby they can identify a suspect, maybe be told to monitor all internet activity, depending on whether, the governments plan is to be the only one with that sadistic ability
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Shutdown
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So yeah, they have an interest in this.
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It's only torrents.
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Stroz's report is a joke as it was done in a lab, on a closed network. There is still no answer as to how they are going to acquire the hashes, unless they seed them themselves... or what happens if I label something SkyFall and instead it is someone else's copyrighted work that they infringed upon by downloading.
Oh and they still owe us 1 review of the Stroz methodology, they have yet to name the reviewer or release the report. I wonder if this one will have lobbied for the MPAA this time.
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Fact or Rumor?
Also some of my friends were calling this a rumor/hoax as they've downloaded lots of things via torrents and no warnings or anything.
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You know that place the first link in the story points to, where they blame the hurricane for a program in development for 4 freaking years still is not ready to roll out...
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problem solved!
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Hollywood
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