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Innocence Of Muslims Maker Produces Acting Waiver Signed By Cindy Garcia

from the uh-oh dept

Fri, Nov 30th 2012 4:36pm — Timothy Geigner

The saga of Cindy Garcia and her attempt to get The Innocence Of Muslims trailer off of YouTube continues. If you'll recall, Garcia is one of the actresses who performed in the controversial almost-film "Innocence of Muslims", which sparked protests throughout the Arab world. Since the protests and media blitz began (as opposed to since the flim's trailer was released), Garcia has been trying to get the YouTube video taken down by throwing the proverbial legal kitchen sink at proverbial legal kitchen-everyone, including claims that she was duped by the flimmakers and that she owned a copyright on her portion of her performance. Buttressing her argument was her claim that she never signed any kind of release for the film.

Well, that claim is now being directly challenged by Google and the film's producer, Mark Basseley Youssef, or whatever the hell he's calling himself this week.

Youssef, who is serving time in prison for using multiple names in violation of his parole, has furnished what he says is the "personal release" signed by Garcia. He says that he is prepared to testify under oath that it is the "cast deal memo" signed by the actress. A copy of his declaration is below.

Now, it should be stressed in very strong terms that Youssef is currently in jail for breaking the law and lying his posterior off, so the need for this document to be validated is certainly there. That said, if the document is genuine, Garcia has some real issues. Forget the lawsuit regarding copyright entirely, since the waiver ostensibly releases any rights that may exist there (and I don't think they exist anyway) to the filmmaker. On top of that, the waiver also includes language preventing Garcia from litigating the film producers as well, though I'm not sure how likely such provisions would hold up in court in this controversial case.

All that being said, if Garcia signed a release and then brought a court case against Youssef and Google for copyright violation, that is a clear case of copyfraud, and it spells trouble. Aside from the obvious legal implications of bringing such a false claim, one has to wonder if any other aspects of her case that may still be allowed to go forward would be damaged by the potential fact of Garcia herself also being a proven liar. Again, this document sure as hell needs to be vetted, considering the source, but if it's real, it's damaging.

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orbitalinsertion (profile), 30 Nov 2012 @ 4:45pm

When Idiots Attack
(other idiots)
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Anonymous Coward, 30 Nov 2012 @ 5:08pm

The actual response to the video is funny.

HOW DARE HE SAY MUSLIMS ARE VIOLENT

GIVE HIM THE DEATH PINALTY!
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Robert (profile), 30 Nov 2012 @ 5:17pm

IMDB
IMDB has no entry for "innocence of muslims", why is that?
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Zos (profile), 30 Nov 2012 @ 5:32pm

Re: IMDB
because the only thing that ever existed was the 15 minute "trailer" honestly, i don't think anyones real clear on just what kind of clusterfuck of trolling, bigotry, fraud, or all of the above that whole deal was built upon.
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Robert, 30 Nov 2012 @ 5:53pm

Re: Re: IMDB
Then why the big deal?

All this "controversy" over a non-existing (or viewed by 10ppl) film that has a 15 minute segment on YouTube?

Perhaps the real point was not even a film, perhaps it was really only 15min long and intended to expose the problems from all sides of the fence?

Notice the Fatwas, name calling, mudslinging debates, legal bullshit, etc... all out of nothing and all for nothing. It's people making mountains out of mole hills, and perhaps the intent was to show the ignorance and bigotry from all sides of the fence.

I wonder if anyone, including Egypt's court system that feels it can sentence someone to death who isn't even in their own country, stopped to think about that? I wonder if anyone stopped to think that the whole point was to stir up controversy and get people to show their true colours?

For those who flipped out and bashed others, uttered threats, uttered racist comments and the like, you were played!

You let some idiot change a film and create a stir, create riots, and make you behave like fools! Why would you give someone so much power over you?

Go and calm down and get your left brains working again and you'll see just how stupid this "film" is and what it was really intended to do.

Note: You are NOT a fool, so don't issue Fatwas against me for pointing out you had a temporary logical failure.

I think one thing is certain, this non-film showed people are not ready to get alone with one another and accept others for their differences (though that's obvious just by watching the US media and reading the comments on news sites).
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Anonymous Coward, 30 Nov 2012 @ 6:53pm

Re: Re: IMDB
If you Google "Innocence of Muslims Full Movie" there seems to a full movie. (Although, "larger pile of crap" might be a better description.)
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Chronno S. Trigger (profile), 30 Nov 2012 @ 9:48pm

Re: Re: Re: IMDB
The full movie is the 15 minute trailer repeated three times.
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Anonymous Coward, 30 Nov 2012 @ 10:41pm

Re: IMDB
Because Innocence of Muslims is a short film. And IMDB doesn't have entries for 99.999% of the worlds short films
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Michael Martinez, 30 Nov 2012 @ 11:32pm

Are contracts made as part of fraud enforceable?
It strikes me as odd that a contract made in a fraudulent manner (under the pseudonym "Sam Bacile", which was a violation of his conditions of parole) should be held enforceable by a Federal judge. If a fraudulent contract has no validity then the copyright claim should be upheld.

The judge should have addressed the fraud issue more clearly. There should be no reasonable defense against the copyright claim given the criminal activity surrounding the production of the film. How can ANY of "Bacile's" contracts be held valid?
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Cindy lee Garcia, 1 Dec 2012 @ 3:01am

I am innocent
Finally someone gets it.
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roebling, 1 Dec 2012 @ 6:43am

Obama-ganda
Uuhhmm. You guys do realize that the whole, "Muslims-only-murdered-our-ambassador-because-they-heard-there-might-be-a-video-on-the-internet-some where-that-they-might-not-like," that was all just national socialist, Obama-ganda, don't you?

Oh, pudding. I forgot that telling the truth is, "racist."
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Dark Helmet (profile), 1 Dec 2012 @ 6:47am

Re: Obama-ganda
"Uuhhmm. You guys do realize that the whole, "Muslims-only-murdered-our-ambassador-because-they-heard-there-might-be-a-video-on-the-internet-some where-that-they-might-not-like," that was all just national socialist, Obama-ganda, don't you?"

Uuhhmm, you do realize that there were protests throughout the Arab World over the video that had nothing to do with Benghazi, which is the case you're talking about, right? There were actual protests over the film. A lot of them. And I never mentioned any ambassadors in this post. Idiot.
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roebling, 1 Dec 2012 @ 7:28am

Re: Re: Obama-ganda
No "protests" occurred except after the press circulated the propagandized version of the original event. Those feeble protests were in support of Obama's anti-American, anti-free speech, misdirection of the Libyan atrocity.
When I wrote for a newspaper, the hierarchy of reporters was: 1) Original news story writers; 2) Rewriters of the original stories, for later editions & papers requiring different stylistic elements; 3) Rewriters of press releases.
Guess which type of writer you are, dipwad.
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That One Guy (profile), 1 Dec 2012 @ 10:06am

Re: Are contracts made as part of fraud enforceable?
For the last time...

She does not have the copyright to the video. Only the copyright holder, or an authorized representative hired or employed by them, can file to have youtube or another site remove the video. She is not this person, and therefor has no right to try and get it removed via a copyright claim.

This really isn't that difficult a concept to understand, so it boggles the mind how it keeps popping up.
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Tristan Phillips, 1 Dec 2012 @ 1:51pm

Citation for lying
Mr. Geigner:

Can you produce a citation for your statement "Youssef is currently in jail for breaking the law and lying his posterior off"? Or are you making things up again?
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Gwiz (profile), 1 Dec 2012 @ 5:08pm

Re: Citation for lying
Can you produce a citation for your statement "Youssef is currently in jail for breaking the law and lying his posterior off"? Or are you making things up again?

Umm. It's quoted right above that statement
Youssef, who is serving time in prison for using multiple names in violation of his parole,...
The link to the article with that quote is right above the quote:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/innocence-muslims-filmmaker-surfaces-potential-39 5447

If you follow that link, there is a link in that story to a detailed article about it:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/innocence-muslims-filmmaker-mark-basseley-387522

I don't know about you, but I don't think something could be more cited than that.
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Dec 2012 @ 5:15pm

Re: Citation for lying
"Lying his posterior off" does not mean that his posterior literally fell off. It is a figure of speech.
Can you provide us with a citation that your name is indeed Tristan Phillips? Or did you make that name up?
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Dec 2012 @ 9:53pm

Re: Re: Re: Obama-ganda
You're delusional and need help.
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Zos (profile), 2 Dec 2012 @ 1:30am

Re: Re: Re: IMDB
i'm not sure it was even that. Here's the thing...the only thing i've really got linking the film to... well, anything. is the word of mainstream media, which is often wrong, usually misinformed, and occasionally just making shit up to fit the narrative.

I don't speak egyptian, or any other middle eastern language, i can't go check and see what the forums and news feeds are saying over there, i can't reconstruct a narrative or timeline. What i can see, is that the trailer was up on youtube for ages, and then suddenly, supposedly the arab world was up in arms about it. The trailer and the film were in english, i don't even remember any subtitles...so i'm a little confused about how it would have caused mass indignation. It's not like you have to look far to find something on youtube that's offensive to the arab world.

Frankly the whole thing feels like a story being spun, and i don't have nearly enough information to be able to decode who's playing this troll out. Then when they start digging into the shit surrounding and BEHIND the movie, it gets even murkier. Fake names, lying to actors, general asshattery and jiggery pokery...smells all conspiracy like. Except...it's a youtube trailer for some shit that doesn't exist. I can't see anyway for the guy to make money off it, so fraud seems out.
and yet, why go to the massive amount of trouble this guy went to, and risk violating the terms of his probation, if there wasn't money involved? sure, so he might have been an extremist of some sort, so what? Where was the payoff, unless it was just a massive wank job as a platform to get his hate on...but it still seems like an awful lot of effort for what should have been zero return, given the hundreds of hours of video uploaded to the tube daily.

none of it hangs together, it just doesn't pass my bullshit filter. It's not about needing to calm down, i'm simply saying that we'll likely never know what the actual narrative around all this was.
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Dark Helmet (profile), 2 Dec 2012 @ 4:35am

Re: Citation for lying
He's in jail for using aliases, otherwise known as false names, otherwise known as LYING. Also I believe not using aliases was part of his parole agreement for, so he apparently lied when he agreed not to use aliases any longer.

Anything else Tristan?
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John Doe, 3 Dec 2012 @ 5:17am

Re: Re: Re: Re: IMDB
Here is the timeline for you. There was a terrorist attack on the US embassy that resulted in an ambassador being killed. Obama, in his attempt to pretend there were no more terrorists, instructed his administration and the liberal media to blame it on the file. In a very Streisand Effect way, the film that nobody ever heard of, was now front and center. The riots that Obama started took place after his publicity of the film, not before. Unfortunately he was re-elected so we have 4 more years of decline ahead of us.
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Knowledge, 5 May 2013 @ 6:47am

Response to: Anonymous Coward on Nov 30th, 2012 @ 5:08pm
You ignorant loser, not all Muslims are violent, but what the movie is saying, Mohammed and the Quran is violent weather u like it or not. The Quran exposes itself, it's just that people are blind to see it. There are 45 Ayat in Quran tells you to kill and murder, and it gives u details how to chop of a persons head if they don't convert to Islam, you don't call that violent? The pure EVIL!!
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Cindy, 31 May 2013 @ 10:00am

Who really paid Basiel to make the film
Basiel is a federal snitch jailed in 2010 for a year only for over 800,000 worth bad checks and cooking meth... Hmmm someone wrote the script someone took the fall. Perhaps a smoke screen . Just thinking
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Alan, 1 Mar 2014 @ 3:09pm

Re:
This is idiots attacking idiots attacking still other idiots.
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