British Intelligence Spied On G20 Officials' Phone Calls And Emails During 2009 Summit
from the of-course-they-did dept
Late Sunday, the Guardian revealed that during the G20 summit in London in 2009, the UK government made sure to intercept phone calls and internet communications of foreign politicians and officials who were attending. As the article notes, many have suspected this kind of activity, but this is the first time that evidence has been presented of it happening and that it was organized by GCHQ (the UK equivalent of the NSA). And, of course, this had nothing to do with "stopping terrorism" but was about "the more mundane purpose of securing an advantage in meetings." The listed activities:- Setting up internet cafes where they used an email interception programme and key-logging software to spy on delegates' use of computers;
- Penetrating the security on delegates' BlackBerrys to monitor their email messages and phone calls;
- Supplying 45 analysts with a live round-the-clock summary of who was phoning who at the summit;
- Targeting the Turkish finance minister and possibly 15 others in his party;
- Receiving reports from an NSA attempt to eavesdrop on the Russian leader, Dmitry Medvedev, as his phone calls passed through satellite links to Moscow.
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They broke rule #1:
That said, will be interested to see if someone loses their job over this 'unfortunate lapse of judgement', or if the blame will just be shuffled back and forth until people forget about it.
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It was not an unfortunate lapse of judgment, it was our turn to spy on, I mean host, all the negotiators.
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Bradley Manning
WTF: they really should shoot people like that.
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"I hear there was a guy working for the US military, which spied on a large number of diplomats and military personnel, who then provided those documents to the general public !!!!!!
WTF: they really should shoot people who run organisations like that."
An additional -10 points for the excessive scaremongering via six (6) exclamation points.
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I'm here, ready to discuss your theories as to why this surveillance violates the Fourth Amendment. Why won't you discuss it on the merits? Why do you feel the need to block IP addresses rather than have a substantive discussion about something that actually matters?
I'm not going anywhere, Mike. The only way to get rid of me is to deal with me. The only way to make me lose interest is to have an open and honest discussion with me. Blocking my IP only makes me post MORE. You should know that. As long as I'm blocked, I'll assume you want me to post an order of magnitude more than I used to. Your choice.
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Why won't Mikey tell us if he thinks copyright infringement is immoral or not? Why won't he discuss whether Aaron Swartz broke the law? The list goes on and on. Mike is too scared to discuss anything that actually matters.
He runs every fucking time.
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Logically consistent much?
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I fucking own Techdirt now, friend.
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Proof that aveRAEG_shmoe doesn't have a life.
"...O can't you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches with every step you take..."
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Hmm... It's not hard to figure out. He's a total fucking fake and he knows it. I shit all over him and he just takes it because he's too scared to actually confront me.
I fucking own this place. Mike is so fucking scared of me he doesn't know what to do. All he has to do is have an honest discussion with me. It will never happen.
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" All he has to do is have an honest discussion with me. It will never happen."
You keep moving the goalposts in every discussion, every answer you get you suddenly pull up the stakes and start pretending that he hasn't answered your question, thus moving the goalposts.
Then you have the cognitive dissonance of thinking this makes you the winner of the argument. While we laugh.
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You have still not proven that you do not cheat on every one of your exams.
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Mike only cares about getting clicks and getting paid. I care about the facts and getting things right. That's why Mike is too fucking scared of me that he has to block my IP.
You block me, I post more than ever, Mikey. Your choice.
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I'm pretty sure Mike has posted his reasons aplenty.
I also wasn't aware this was a 'debate' site, let alone one where only your 'debates' (I think that's how you spell 'whinging') count, or that Mike was under any obligation to debate anyone, let alone yourself.
Complaining that an opinion site is 'looking for page clicks' is like complaining that EMI are putting out songs. Why not go and whine somewhere useful and get Paris Hilton/Snooki/whoever-is-the-latest-brainless-to-fill-the-airwaves to stop doing so. And maybe they can teach you some maturity at the same time.
Did someone 'block' your IP? Must have been used by a spambot...
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2) The UK isn't bound by the US Constitution, nor its Amendments, you idiot.
3) Also, if your IP address is blocked, how do you post? Users reporting your spam for what it is isn't IP blocking. & your comments aren't removed, they're just collapsed so intelligent readers don't have to worry about their IQ dropping. If they want to read your rant, they're free to click the indicator & reveal you have no clue what you are talking about.
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Seriously? Masnick blocked your IP address? Wow. Just when I thought he was merely a douchenozzle, he reveals himself to be a giant hypocritical douchenozzle. This is truly hysterical.
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Wow, you're right... there's no way he can ignore you indefinitely, by himself. He'd have to, I don't know... crowdsource some way to ignore you. Maybe a button, of some sort. Like, a way to flag your posts as useless drivel, so that people who aren't entertained by them can just skip them, without any actual effort from the site admins. Why hasn't that happened yet, we'll never know.
"The only way to make me lose interest is to have an open and honest discussion with me."
Well, this says anything. Open and honest discussion make angry_schmucko lose interest. From the horse's mouth (with no name). No wonder why it's close to impossible.
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Where would you go?
You can't get a job and no school will accept you.
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Oh come on Mike
QED.
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Also it's eavesdropping to videotape police (with audio)/
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Big deal: I'm so important that Google spies on me EVERY DAY!
"...get around the security on the BlackBerry." -- You may recall that RIM claimed that couldn't be done. Corporations lie continually.
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Re: Big deal: I'm so important that Google spies on me EVERY DAY!
You are not qualified to operate a computer or access the internet.
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Re: Big deal: I'm so important that Google spies on me EVERY DAY!
The fact that you claim that you are still 'being spied on' by them suggests either that you have fallen for the 'Google is everything' lie that the *AA's and several governments have been pushing, or that despite claiming to hate their 'spying' on you, you continue to use their products, like a masochist that just cannot get enough suffering and/or needs something to complain about.
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Economic spying on friendly nations
It also might provide political cover for a nation that has (theoretically) realized they're getting screwed over on free trade or international IP agreements to, uh, revisit their commitments to such agreements.
Add one more (imaginary) revelation, and the international relations could get pretty complex pretty fast.
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Because they are building this whole thing on terrorism fear
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