Author Of The Patriot Act: Congress Will Not Renew If Intelligence Agencies Don't Change Their Ways
from the time-to-fix-things dept
We've already pointed out that the key author of the Patriot Act, Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, has spoken out against the NSA's surveillance activities, saying that the law was actually written specifically to prevent that kind of activity. Sensenbrenner, as the author of the Patriot Act, certainly isn't known for having a particularly strong focus on protecting civil liberties. However, he does seem quite perturbed at what's being done with the law associated with his name, which he insists is being abused. During today's Congressional hearings, Sensenbrenner made it clear that Congress will not renew the controversial Section 215 if the NSA doesn't correct its broad surveillance efforts:Section 215 expires at the end of 2015. Unless you realize you've got a problem, that is not going to be renewed. There are not the votes in the House of Representatives to renew Section 215, and then you're gonna lose the business records access.... You have to change how you operate Section 215, otherwise in two and a half years you're not going to have it any more.”The full video of Sensenbrenner questioning Deputy Attorney General James Cole is worth watching:
Sensenbrenner: It appears to me that, according to this letter and the testimony of FBI Director Mueller, that "relevant" [is being interpreted as] an expansion of what could happen rather than a limitation... when relevant was not included in that statute. Doesn't that make a mockery of the legal standard, because you're trying to have it both ways?Once again, when will the administration realize that they've clearly taken all of this way too far?
Cole: I don't think we're trying to have it both ways...
Sensenbrenner: You sure are! Because you're saying have the court authorized to get the records of all the phone calls that are made to and from phones in the United States including people who have nothing to do with any kind of terrorist investigation. And then what you're saying is that "we'll decide" what to pick out of that mass of maybe a billion phone calls a day, rather than saying that 'this person is a target' why don't you get an authorization for only that person's telephone records?
Cole: Again, going to the analogy of the criminal context, we would never in a grand jury situation or a traditional criminal investigation even go to the court for the framework, or the setting of rules, or have sunsetting every 90 days of the authority, or...
Sensenbrenner: But, Mr. Cole, with all due respect, the letter that I got from the Department that you're the number two person in, says that you get the FISA Court order because there are "reasonable grounds to believe that the data is relevant to an authorized investigation to protect against international terrorism" as Section 215 requires. Even though most of the records in the dataset are not associated with terrorist activity. You gobble up all of those records and then you turn around and say well we'll pick out maybe 300 phone numbers out of the billions of records that you have every day and you store for five years there. All the rest of this stuff is sitting in a warehouse and we found out from the IRS who knows who wants to have any kind of legal or illegal access to it. You are having it both ways.
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Filed Under: business records, doj, james cole, jim sensenbrenner, nsa surveillange, patriot act, relevant, section 215
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“Sensenbrenner has zero credibility
Sensenbrenner has ZERO credibility on the Patroit act.At least three times before civil rights defenders warned of the massive abuses the Patroit act would be used for, and Sensenbrenner dismissed the claims as hogwash and claimed there were safeguards built into the Patriot act to prevent such abuses.
And then, OMG, each time the civil rights defenders were proven correct, and Sensenbrenner was SHOCKED and said NO ONE could have EVER foreseen those abuses of the Patriot act. No one except the people who were against it from the beginning apparently.
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They don't have to wait till 2015
(and before you are all voted out of office in 2014)
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They're hoping that all the controversy will die down by then, so that they can just rubber-stamp the renewal like they've been doing.
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But luckily it has a sunset provision. They don't have to worry about a veto if they just refuse to renew it.
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Furthermore:
Who's to say they're going to even care if it's legal, and who's going to stop them from doing it, seriously, even if it is repealed in 2 years?
Because they've done real good with legality of taking every single bit of data from everyone so far, haven't they?
Their overwhelming sense of legality, ethics and morals just plain stuns one, doesn't it?
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Sensenbrenner has zero credibility
At least three times before civil rights defenders warned of the massive abuses the Patroit act would be used for, and Sensenbrenner dismissed the claims as hogwash and claimed there were safeguards built into the Patriot act to prevent such abuses.
And then, OMG, each time the civil rights defenders were proven correct, and Sensenbrenner was SHOCKED and said NO ONE could have EVER foreseen those abuses of the Patriot act. No one except the people who were against it from the beginning apparently.
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I guess we'll just have to take their word for it. Bwahaha! I'm sorry I couldn't say that with a straight face. :)
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At least three times before civil rights defenders warned of the massive abuses the Patroit act would be used for, and Sensenbrenner dismissed the claims as hogwash and claimed there were safeguards built into the Patriot act to prevent such abuses.
And then, OMG, each time the civil rights defenders were proven correct, and Sensenbrenner was SHOCKED and said NO ONE could have EVER foreseen those abuses of the Patriot act. No one except the people who were against it from the beginning apparently.
Glad someone gets it..
If he wrote it, he has NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT HIMSELF, good luck with trying to stop it. BTW: he's republican
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Author of Patriat act ... .LIES
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HE DID NOT WRITE THE ACT
Sensenbrenner did not write the act
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Journalistic integrity - code of conduct
Accuracy ??
yea, right, like that going to happen..
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You just cant tell the truth can you, cant help yourself, you have to repeat the same lies over and over again.
What else do you tell us that is a blatant LIE ??
Or is it the fact, the only way we can tell you are lying is because you are speaking ?
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Just a few bad apples...
I feel so much safer thanks to the Patriot Act. If you're not with us, you're against us.
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Maybe Snowden should have waited until late 2014 or early 2015 to release the information so it would have a better chance of changing the law.
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This is Great
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In other words...
Well, go ahead, don't renew Section 215. See if we care.
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