Forbes Publishes Blueprints Of NSA's Massive Datacenter In Utah
from the well,-look-at-that dept
Kash Hill, over at Forbes has a very impressive scoop: publishing the blueprints to the giant NSA data center in Bluffdale, Utah. While the NSA had been at least mildly public in admitting that the data center existed, it really started to get attention back when James Bamford wrote about the center for Wired. Hill, who actually tried to do a drop in visit to the as-yet-unopened data center (without much luck) a few months ago, somehow got her hands on the blueprints:Site Emergency Action Plan
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Also, what law authorizes the government to make copies of all of the copyrighted works that invariably end up being stored on these servers?
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That's only the above-ground prints. Wait until someone leaks what's under the building.
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Exactly how have you verified these?
In any case, this is completely useless for regaining our lost privacy.
Take a loopy tour of Techdirt.com! You always end up same place!
http://techdirt.com/
Masnicking: daily spurts of short and trivial traffic-generating items.
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Re: Exactly how have you verified these?
Yet you cum over yourself any time someone suggests that your Google conspiracy theories are true, never waiting a second to confirm if any accusation is true (and they're very often not). Double standards again. You must have been doing some serious yoga over the weekend from the stretching you've been doing this week. You could just relax and stop obsessively attacking the site until something defensible appears...
"In any case, this is completely useless for regaining our lost privacy."
What lost privacy? You just said yourself that you don't believe that any of the evidence that your privacy has been violated hasn't been fabricated.
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That may be true, but journalists are raising awareness by reporting everything.
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So not only did TechDirt verify that Forbes.com posted said article, they thoughtfully included the link so a reader can view the original article.
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If she gets away with this without severe repercussions, we will know that something fishy is going on.
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In this case, the threat is a lot more specific and the leak much less useful for joe citizen than Snowdens. But since bigger american corporations and their international reputation is the primary concern of NSA, they are likely to not care about this potential threat to human life.
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Not to lower the tone at all
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I get it that people are pissed with the NSA, but, honestly, this isn't interesting nor relevant. It is a distraction, actually.
Techdirt should focus and stay on topic. This here is irrelevant headline grabbing garbage, spearheaded by Forbes no less.
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As far as the secure government facilities the civil, mechanical, and electrical plans are completely useless to anyone except for finding ones way around the building and the location of the bathrooms and with guards at the gate that information is utterly useless.
As far as any other room area designation, besides mechanical rooms for A/C and restrooms which require plumbing connections, the one thing one can be assured of is that after occupation nothing is as shown on the plans which is not because of some super secret but simply because of bureaucratic power elitist changes which screws up all construction and design drawing even to those with a need to know of how to bill the damn thing.
Bottom under best of bureaucratic conditions all you have here is a basic outline of the building which could be used for any computer related purpose.
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Oh about the same 'need' that scooping up every single call/email they can get their hands on serves I'd imagine, that of satisfying people's endless curiosity, and the same 'purpose' for doing the same, that of 'because they could'.
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And just to show how crazy it is to think only those rooms above ground would be used for data storage, most server farms have vaults underground as they are easier to maintain the humidity and temp when it is a constant a few meters down.
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What's the use?
Guess what, you idiot: WE PAID FOR THIS.
We have the RIGHT as taxpayers to see what we're paying for, even when it's being used against us in so many ways.
Now go back to your troll cave and shut up.
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If that equipment is being deployed against US citizens, then yes.
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If they were released they WOULD be deployed against the US, that is why they are not. !!!!!
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I'll see what else I can find...
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Can the REAL blueprints please stand up...
And really... they don't think it can hold that much in a world where I can buy a 4TB for $150?
Of course... it's the government, so they'll pay $1500 for the same drive.
Our tax dollars HARD at work!
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Security and that stuff
Have you ever tried to get into a secured area? Not easy, and I don't think that the bad guys would try to. In fact, the article states that they did try to get into it, and it wasn't possible, according to the other linked article:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130305/03134422200/turns-out-nsa-doesnt-really-want-d rop-in-visitors-with-cameras-their-new-utah-spy-facility.shtml
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This is NEVER a question that should be asked. The question should always be, "Why SHOULDN'T this information be public? Who will die as a result of this information?"
And if the answer (as in the case here) is no one, release the information. And if the answer is someone, then MAYBE it shouldn't be released.
This isn't the government's facility, or the NSA'S facility. THIS IS THE U.S. TAXPAYERS' FACILITY.
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Precisely this. Secrecy culture in government has become so incredibly toxic that the they treat everything as if it should only be revealed on a need-to-know basis.
That's completely backwards. We are their employers. If they need to keep secrets from us, they need to justify doing that. We don't ever need to justify why we should have access to the information.
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Press releases about FISA court orders ?
Wait a minute - so they are allowed to issue a press report about one of these oh-so-secret orders from the FISA court, but the companies on the receiving end aren't even allowed to admit that these kind of orders exist ? I thought they said that telling people about these things was "aiding the enemy" or something...
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Love to take part in a very serious March on that filth Center.
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