Georgia Claims Its Annotated Laws Are Covered By Copyright, Threatens Carl Malamud For Publishing The Law

from the law-must-be-secret dept

You may recall a few years back that the state of Oregon claimed that its laws were covered by copyright and threatened to sue people who posted them online. Yes. Its laws. Other states have done the same at times, and each time they get mocked mercilessly for the plain ridiculousness of trying to use copyright law to stop people from publishing the laws of the state. Now, technically, these states are on reasonably firm legal ground, even if they're on completely illogical common sense ground. While US copyright law is clear that works of the federal government are not covered by copyright, that's not the case for state or local governments. Of course, that doesn't make it any saner to claim such a copyright. After all, this is the law we're talking about. It seems crazy to think that any government should get upset about someone publishing the laws that everyone is supposed to obey. In fact, you'd think they'd encourage it.

But... some states just can't help themselves. The latest state to demonstrate how stupid this is would be the state of Georgia, which is now threatening to sue Carl Malamud and Public.Resource.org for daring to publish Georgia's annotated legal code. In a very weak attempt to distinguish this from copyrighting "the law" itself, the threat letter makes it clear that it's not claiming a copyright on the law per se, but rather "the copyrightable aspects," of "the Official Code of Georgia Annotated." From this, it would seem that they mean the annotations, which explain the law, are somehow covered by copyright. And they're not happy that someone, such as Carl Malamud, has the temerity to offer up this code so that those impacted by Georgia law might actually understand the laws they are bound to obey.
Therefore, we demand that you immediately: cease and desist your unlawful copying of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated; remove any and all files containing the Official Code of Georgia Annotated from the internet; destroy any and all files containing the Official Code of Georgia Annotated from the internet; and provide us with prompt written assurance within 10 days of receiving this letter that all such steps have been taken and that you will cease and desist from any further infringement of the copyrighted Official Code of Georgia Annotated.

If you do not comply with this cease and desist demand within this time period, the State of Georgia, through the Georgia Code Revision Commission, is entitled to use your failure to comply as evidence of willful infringement and seek monetary damages and equitable relief for your copyright infringement.
Given Malamud's history, and the fact that he himself reached out to the Georgia Code Revision Commission to let them know he was publishing the annotated version, I would imagine that he does not intend to cease and desist, but will fight this in order to show that such things should be publishable.

But, really, why is the state of Georgia doing this in the first place? It's not as if the state needed the "incentive" of copyright to publish an annotated version of the law. If anything, this seems like copyright misuse. But, even beyond that, it just seems counterproductive from a public policy standpoint to want to make your own laws harder to understand.

Update: And, as expected, Malamud has responded. The entire letter is worth reading, but a quick snippet:
It is a long-held tenet of American law that there is no copyright in the law. This is because the law belongs to the people and in our system of democracy we have the right to read, know, and speak the laws by which we choose to govern ourselves. Requiring a license before allowing citizens to read or speak the law would be a violation of deeply-held principles in our system that the laws apply equally to all.

This principle was strongly set out by the U.S. Supreme Court under Chief Justice John Marshall when they stated “the Court is unanimously of opinion that no reporter has or can have any copyright in the written opinions delivered by this Court, and that the judges thereof cannot confer on any reporter any such right.” Wheaton v. Peters, 33 U.S. (8 Pet.) 591 (1834). The Supreme Court specifically extended that principle to state law, such as the Ofcial Code of Georgia Annotated, in Banks v. Manchester (128 U.S. 244, 1888) , where it stated that “the authentic exposition and interpretation of the law, which, binding every citizen, is free for publication to all, whether it is a declaration of unwritten law, or an interpretation of a constitution or a statute.”


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  • icon
    Atkray (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:10am

    Simple solution

    Post a link to OfficialCodeofGeorgiaAnnotated.torrent

    Especially because of this idiotic line "remove any and all files containing the Official Code of Georgia Annotated from the internet"

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    That One Guy (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:15am

    I can think of ONE reason...

    If the state was trying to get some more money, then making laws secret, and fining people heavily for breaking them would only work if the laws were secret, as if people knew the laws they wouldn't break them.

    Other than that, nope, can't think of a single reason that laws should ever be hidden like they are trying here.

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      Dan S (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:00pm

      Re: I can think of ONE reason...

      Or else they have a sweet exclusive with some publisher.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      angryinadk, 30 Jul 2013 @ 3:49pm

      Re: I can think of ONE reason...

      Just think of the revenue for the private prisons.One of our local justices of the peace used to say"ignorance of the law is no excuse". even if you cannot determine what the law is.Not just fines, but stiff sentences.

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      Anonymous Howard (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 2:59am

      Re: I can think of ONE reason...

      I can think of a quasi valid reason I read at a somewhat similar case:

      This way they can maintain the document, keep it up-to-date, and don't have to worry that some outdated copy is out there, confusing people.

      Ofc it's flimsy, could be solved in a number of ways, and outright wrong to use copyright to do the job.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Tom, 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:28am

    Duh! It's Georgia

    So like most southern states, Georgia has more than it's fair share of racist, sexist, idiotic, embarrassing, etc., etc., laws on the books so they naturally want to hide them from people in other states.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      madasahatter (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:37pm

      Re: Duh! It's Georgia

      All US states have their fair share of these laws.

      Also, do not forget that the Nazi Germany eugenics laws were heavily based on California state law. California was never a part of the CSA

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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      heptagonprime (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 12:25pm

      Re: Duh! It's Georgia

      It would be really great if you could point out what these laws are. You can see O.C.G.A here: http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/

      I don't think Georgia has anymore stupid laws than any other state. In fact, due to higher oversight due to our less than spectacular past, we have cleaned a lot of it up and repudiated old laws. There are also harsher penalties for sex trafficking of minors and a ban on female circumcision.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:33am

    So...

    Is ignorance of the law now an excuse?

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      DannyB (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 2:09pm

      Re: So...

      Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

      Inability to afford access to know the law is no excuse!

      Making secret laws that you must pay to know is excusable. (or priceless?)

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 7:45pm

      Re: So...

      If it's not it soon will be if they have their way.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:34am

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse even when they make them all a secret. How does that work?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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      DannyB (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 2:11pm

      Re:

      It works like this.

      If you violate a secret law, then you will be secretly arrested (maybe in the middle of the night) and tried in a secret court.

      Your defense team cannot know what secret law you broke because it is secret. If we revealed the secret law, then terrorists, yes TERRORISTS would know what kinds of behavior we are looking for and it would aid the enemy.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    GMacGuffin (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:37am

    On the other hand ...

    My father and I split a Westlaw bill of over $500 per month for access to various codes, cases, and practice materials. Our money of course is not for the cases and statutes, which are freely available -- it's for the annotations.

    The annotations are short blurbs under headings for various legal points that show how the statute was applied in various cases. The annotations require attorneys qualified in the field to dig through each reported case that cites the statute and summarize its application to fact. That requires tons of man-hours and particular knowledge and skill sets. Annotations are incredibly helpful and save enormous amounts of research time.

    So I can see why Georgia would have an issue with those kind of annotations being published for free. But ... then ... I always assumed that the annotations were drafted by the company providing them (Westlaw, LexisNexis).

    I downloaded one of the uploaded documents to see what's up, and 1) the annotations are largely just quick "editor's notes" regarding the statutes and legislative histories, not much, but probably enough for copyright protection; and 2) the hard copy book which was scanned was provided by LexisNexis, but Georgia still holds the copyright. Interesting.

    Sum, Georgia looks legally justified, but is probably overreacting. The books are scanned in an unwieldy list, took forever to download, and these annotations are largely useless.

    Betting LexisNexis was actually driving this bus.

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      Hephaestus (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:53am

      Re: On the other hand ...

      So the annotations are the Cliff Notes version of the law. No wonder the legal system is in such disarray.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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        GMacGuffin (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:17pm

        Re: Re: On the other hand ...

        So the annotations are the Cliff Notes version of the law. No wonder the legal system is in such disarray.

        Hahaha ... indeed. Good lawyers will at least look at the case itself to check for things like, you know, context, or to make sure the rest of the case doesn't destroy your argument.

        In motions, I try to use the cases cited by opposition and kick them back on them with what the cases were really saying/about.

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:35pm

          Re: Re: Re: On the other hand ...

          Sophistry which does not help the public understand the law, but rather makes it the playground of lawyers.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

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      Blaine, 19 Aug 2015 @ 8:12pm

      Re: On the other hand ...

      I'm not sure they are legally justified. I think an argument can be made that by calling it the "official" code of Georgia, and then using references to it, they are thereby causing the annotated version to be an edict of government. This is especially true since they control the copyright. If they never said the annotated version was official, and all of their official legal references did not mention it, then maybe they'd have a stronger legal standing in my point of view. But it seems pretty contrary to a very plain rule by the US Copyright Office to call something the official code,and then reference it on your government websites, and then say that it is copyrighted.

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    out_of_the_blue, 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:37am

    "counterproductive"? ... States don't care, and are NOT sane!

    Again, you're at best ignorant of the nature of the beast: it's to "harass us with swarms of officers", and "eat out our substance", so "counterproductive" is a PLUS to gov't.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:45am

      Re: "counterproductive"? ... States don't care, and are NOT sane!

      No need to worry yourself; you have no substance.

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    saulgoode (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:46am

    While US copyright law is clear that works of the federal government are not covered by copyright, that's not the case for state or local governments.

    I should think that all laws enacted by such legislatures qualify as "works for hire" (i.e., a work prepared by an employee within the scope of his or her employment, USC 17 �101) and thus copyright ownership belongs to the employers (i.e., the taxpayers).

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Transmitte (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 11:56am

    Georgia(and their capitol, Atlanta) has the area code 404, which, in my bizarre mind equates out to Error 404 - Common sense not found.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:04pm

    C'mon, Mike, look at the intent of copyright!

    they're on completely illogical common sense ground


    No, no no - it makes perfect sense if you look at the intent of copyright, specifically to "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts"

    If these legislators couldn't monetize the laws, what reason could they have to write them? Without the incentive afforded by copyright, there would be no law at all, and then wouldn't we be in a kettle of fish?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 31 Jul 2013 @ 1:17am

      Re: C'mon, Mike, look at the intent of copyright!

      there's a reason laws are drafted in the form of a "bill".

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:05pm

    You fools!

    The Official Code of Georgia Annotated is an acrostic of the word to summon Nyarlathotep.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:08pm

    sorry if i am being silly but if people dont know the laws how are they supposed to know when they have broken one? even further, how are people to know what not to do because it would be breaking the law? taking it even further, when you do whatever it is that you intend, it may be legal until the person(s) telling you to stop/arresting you because the law could be changed/added as and when it suits. rather a silly position to be in, i think. the only true and fair way out of this would be to send every person their own copy of the State Law, adding as amendments Federal law. people could then read, inwardly digest and regurgitate as needed. problem solved!

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:13pm

    "After all, this is the law we're talking about. It seems crazy to think that any government should get upset about someone publishing the laws that everyone is supposed to obey. In fact, you'd think they'd encourage it."

    Unless you are the NSA and you are relying on secret laws that everyone would be outraged by if they knew about them, then of course you would be upset by someone publishing the law.

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    Mike Masnick (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 12:27pm

    updated

    Added update with Carl's response telling the state of Georgia that it's wrong...

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    Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 1:43pm

    Georgia is simply using the FISC court as a model for their state laws.

    Secret Laws
    Secret Courts
    Secret Rulings

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      DannyB (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 2:20pm

      Re:

      > Secret Laws
      > Secret Courts
      > Secret Rulings

      You forgot...

      Secret interpretations of laws
      Secret warrants (that ISPs can't talk about)
      Secret prisons
      Secret extraditions
      Secret massive surveillance
      Secret enemies

      And coming soon . . . secret wars!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 30 Jul 2013 @ 7:54pm

        Re: Re:

        Not to mention secret intellectual property. The NSA gets ghost patents.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

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          DannyB (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 7:47am

          Re: Re: Re:

          I wonder what the value of patents could possibly be for a secretive organization like the NSA?

          If some technique is not generally known, why would you want to make it known by filing a patent -- even under an identity not associated with the NSA?

          Patents are not going to stop bad guys from implementing the technique in the patent.

          In particular, with cryptographic techniques, you might just rather keep silent about a new technique rather than patent it. More like 'trade secret' protection without the 'trade' part.

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    Matthew Cline (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 2:38pm

    Just to be clear, these are laws written by the legislature itself, rather than laws written by a private standards body and then incorporated by reference?

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    davnel, 30 Jul 2013 @ 3:12pm

    Interesting

    If one goes to the Georgia State Official Website (georgia.gov), click on "Government", and thence to "Learning about Georgia Law", and click on " Official Code of Georgia", you are taken first to a terms of service notice page outlining the copyright implications of even LOOKING at the published Law. Saying OK to that page takes you to, no, not the official Georgia Code, but rather to a LexisNexis search page.

    That plus the comment that the "Printed Volumes" are the ONLY official text, says to me that Georgia doesn't actually own their own laws but, in fact, have sold them and all rights of access to LexisNexis. It's LN, not Georgia, that are doing the objecting and demanding. Someone needs to look into this. It seems to me that it's clearly illegal.

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      heptagonprime (profile), 1 Aug 2013 @ 8:25am

      Re: Interesting

      LexisNexis is the official publisher. It does not claim ownership of the law and specifically states that the copyright remains with the State of Georgia.

      The letters in the article make no mention of LexisNexis. They are essentially just the hosting company. He is also not hosting what Lexis Nexis has online. The site just has the code. He is in fact hosting a scanned copy of the annotated code. If you look at the scanned code that he actually hosts, it has a copyright for the State of Georgia on it.

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    John William Nelson (profile), 30 Jul 2013 @ 8:56pm

    Interesting . . . But does Georgia even own the copyright?

    Here's the thing: I can sympathize with a copyright in the annotated portions. I've done work editing annotated portions of code before. There is quite a bit of work, creativity, and expression that goes into it.

    However, the State of Georgia didn't do that work. If the State had, then to hell with not giving it free to its taxpaying citizens.

    In this situation, LexisNexis did that work. There is a competing annotated code by Michie's which many lawyers will know of as well.

    In fact, if you do a Library of Congress copyright search, then it is Matthew Bender & Co (owned by LexisNexis) who owns the OCGA copyrights, if any.

    So then you have a government entity making false copyright ownership claims. This is like when Righthaven claimed it had a copyright when it didn't actually own said copyright.

    LexisNexis would be the proper party. And that's assuming the level of work done on creating the annotated code is sufficient to warrant copyright protection, or if it is just a reorganization of existing facts. And then there is fair use.

    So myopic by Georgia.

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      Arequipa, 31 Jul 2013 @ 2:20pm

      Re: Interesting . . . But does Georgia even own the copyright?

      A few points.

      1) LexisNexis owns The Michie Company.
      2) The annotated laws/code refers not only to the set of amendment notes, etc that are grouped at the end of each section of a code but also to the production involved in updating changes to the laws, incorporating new law/enactments or effecting repeals in the code - etc.
      3) There exists a contract between state and publisher- I do not know if it is public or not but there must be some way to access a part or all of the contract. LN or Westlaw are providers who sell a service/product to the state- some might say that have been extended a concession in exchange for the production of the code...at any rate just the contract is high margin relative to cost of production- hell until a few years ago LN was running its online law product on architecture built in the 80s- yup the phooking 80s. Make you feel better about those 500 clams a month?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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        heptagonprime (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 3:40pm

        Re: Re: Interesting . . . But does Georgia even own the copyright?

        Almost all state expenditures can be found here:
        http://open.ga.gov/index.html

        There are other contract sites but I cannot find them just yet.

        I think the issue is being confused though. OCGA is not secret. The State just wants to be the one who is in control of the publication of the code.

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    ECA (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 8:13am

    HOW MUCH

    Ask your schools the COSt of books.

    Then ask them if history changes, much.
    If Math changes.
    If Science they are teaching changes..

    then ask them HOW much to produce their OWN BOOKS..

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    ChrisH (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 8:33am

    Now, technically, these states are on reasonably firm legal ground, even if they're on completely illogical common sense ground. While US copyright law is clear that works of the federal government are not covered by copyright, that's not the case for state or local governments.
    Even if though they're not excepted from copyright, I wonder how this would stand up to the question of copyrightability. Statements of facts are not copyrightable, so I'm wondering if that would be the most logical defense in this case.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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      ECA (profile), 31 Jul 2013 @ 3:00pm

      Re:

      I would like to see enforcement when you DONT KNOW the law..

      i would REALLy like a list/note sent to me when they CHANGE THINGS..

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Androgynous Cowherd, 1 Aug 2013 @ 6:55pm

    The authentic exposition and interpretation of the law, which, binding every citizen, is free for publication to all, whether it is a declaration of unwritten law, or an interpretation of a constitution or a statute.


    Someone needs to get the same Supreme Court justices that penned the above to take a look at the recent behavior of the FISA court...

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