Yes, The NSA Tracked Mobile Phone Locations, Despite Previous Semi-Denials
from the under-this-program dept
We had just talked about how Ron Wyden has been trying to pin the NSA down on whether or not it collected mobile phone location data, and how NSA officials continue to dance around the question by claiming "not under this program." Charlie Savage, over at the NY Times, now has an article about a "pilot program" the NSA did doing bulk collection of the location of Americans' mobile phones. The pilot program was run in 2010 and 2011. While the NSA eventually decided not to go forward with the program, they certainly did use it for a period of time. The existence of the program was apparently "recently declassified" by James Clapper -- but not actually revealed (neat trick!). Clapper had a "draft answer" ready about the program if he was asked about it, but with Feinstein carefully making sure Wyden couldn't ask too many questions, it appears the question never made it to the floor. Still, the NY Times received the draft answer, which according to them said:“In 2010 and 2011 N.S.A. received samples in order to test the ability of its systems to handle the data format, but that data was not used for any other purpose and was never available for intelligence analysis purposes,” the draft answer says, adding that the N.S.A. has promised to notify Congress and seek the approval of a secret surveillance court in the future before any locational data was collected using Section 215.Senator Wyden told the NY Times that this answer is not providing "the real story":
“After years of stonewalling on whether the government has ever tracked or planned to track the location of law-abiding Americans through their cellphones, once again, the intelligence leadership has decided to leave most of the real story secret — even when the truth would not compromise national security,” Mr. Wyden said.I imagine there will be much more to come on this story.
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Filed Under: cell-site location, james clapper, keith alexander, location, nsa, nsa surveillance, ron wyden, surveillance
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NSA is despicable. Shut them down! It's the only real way to stop them. Since the government is complaining so much about the budget, cut the tens of billions of dollars NSA is receiving every year, and officially abolish the agency, and fire everyone in it.
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If that hasn't already happened.
Obama the hopeless continues fiddling…
Annie
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New Law...
The intellectual dishonesty and dissonance is so utterly apparent that no action has been taken other than some "questions" amounts to nothing more than a parlor show at the expense of our Countries Integrity. Think about it and now you can understand the general lack of respect the rest of the World has for us now.
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Why do you always like to add those caveats to the end of your sentences, Mr. Clapper?
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We can also be sure there was a reason why Senator Wyden asked this question. One he knew the answer to already but could not himself reveal. Just like the previous event where he had asked if the NSA spied on American emails and phone calls. He already knew the answer, had forwarded that he intended to ask it, and yet Clapper at the time 'Gave the least untruthful answer'.
This follows the exact same pattern. Merely that Senator Wyden asked this question pretty much confirms it was being done.
Somewhere in the carefully hidden bowels of the NSA, programs yet to be revealed, will I suspect provide verification that not only is the metadata on emails recorded but also the contents of each and every email all Americans send. It has been previously stated that the aim of the NSA is to record the totality of global communications... as in all of it.
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So, WHY ELSE would you think location capability (plus GPS) is in those gadgets?
Step 1: Get people to buy the "cool" gadgets that are the very means of spying.
Step 2: (Particularly mysterious to me: how DO they get suckers to fall for such obvious Big Brother purposes?????)
Step 3: Profit!
Just high-tech capitalism! The slaves PAY for their own chains!
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That said, GPS is a technological double-edged sword and able to be (and as we all know, has been) abused by the government.
Does that mean we should all stop using GPS, entirely? This is just my personal opinion, but I don't think we should stop using a tool just because some people use it to cause harm to their fellow man.
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In other words, we need to be able to disable the GPS chip inside our smartphones, if we so choose, through hardware drivers.
Unfortunately, as it currently stands every single hardware driver is proprietary. This means the smartphone controls user, and the user does not control the smartphone.
We need to be in control of our own computing and hardware devices we paid for.
Then we can turn the GPS chip on and off, allowing the hardware owner to choose when he/she wishes to use GPS functionality.
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On my phone, I do this with a firewall.
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(from the Enhanced 911 article on wikipedia)
95% of a network operator's in-service phones must be E911 compliant ("location capable") by December 31, 2005. (Several carriers missed this deadline, and were fined by the FCC.
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