There Is No Oversight: The NSA Withheld Documents From Intelligence Committee Heads

from the 'oversight'-is-the-new-'forced-myopia' dept

There has never been effective oversight of the NSA's bulk collections programs, or indeed, intelligence agencies in general. There's been a lot of noise made about this vaunted oversight in defense of programs revealed by leaked documents, but this is nothing more than a talking point.

The NSA (along with the CIA) has no interest in real oversight or accountability, not even to the final arbiter of its domestic surveillance, the FISA court. Judge Walton threatened to end the Section 215 collection back in 2008 after uncovering widespread abuse of the collections and the NSA's constant misrepresentation of how it was handling the data it collected.

Over the last several months, it's become apparent that the committees charged with oversight have withheld documents from their colleagues, and the agencies themselves have avoided answering specific questions about their tactics, turning oversight hearings into games of "20 questions."

But one would think the intelligence committees themselves would be on the inside track, considering chairpersons and ranking members are some of the most fervent defenders of domestic surveillance. That assumption would be wrong as well.

At The Big Picture, a clip of Sen. John D. Rockefeller (then Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence) discussing how oversight actually works has been posted. It's from an interview given in 2007, about the time the FISA Amendments Act was being put together to replace the expiring Protect America Act. The amendments act, among other things, extended the length of warrantless surveillance and gave telecoms retroactive immunity for their participation in the NSA's bulk collections.

Here's Rockefeller explaining why, even back in 2007, intelligence oversight was a joke.


The clip only contains Rockefeller's response to the question (in bold below). Here's the answer in context.
DAVIS: Reports quote administration officials as saying this is going on and it’s being done in a way to avoid oversight of the Intelligence Committee. Is there any way—

ROCKEFELLER: They’ll go to any lengths to do that, as we’ve seen in the last two days [during hearings on FISA].

DAVIS: Is there anything you could do in your position as Chairman of the Intelligence Committee to find answers about this, if it is in fact going on?

ROCKEFELLER: Don’t you understand the way Intelligence works? Do you think that because I’m Chairman of the Intelligence Committee that I just say I want it, and they give it to me? They control it. All of it. ALL of it. ALL THE TIME. I only get - and my committee only gets - what they WANT to give me.
It goes all the way back, as The Big Picture points out. The NSA was created by President Truman in 1952 with a secret memo. The FBI -- the name under which bulk telephone records are collected -- was similarly crafted without Congressional consent.
The Bureau of Investigation (BOI) was created on July 26, 1908, after Congress had adjourned for the summer. Attorney General Bonaparte, using Department of Justice expense funds, hired thirty-four people, including some veterans of the Secret Service, to work for a new investigative agency. Its first chief (the title is now known as director) was Stanley Finch. Bonaparte notified Congress of these actions in December, 1908.
If the agency was created without Congressional consent, it stands to reason those in it feel legislative oversight is both unwelcome and unnecessary. There's a lot more oversight happening now, but that's mainly because the NSA can't withhold leaked information from the committees. It's all out in the open.

So, when defenders of the agency start talking about oversight and legality, be sure to remind them that neither of these aspects are particularly strong. The agency operated in darkness for many, many years and the programs that skirted the Constitution were only made legal by dubious, reactionary legislation and secret interpretations of existing laws.

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  • identicon
    Pixelation, 28 Mar 2014 @ 7:52am

    Remember

    These things are on a need to know basis...

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    • identicon
      Pragmatic, 28 Mar 2014 @ 9:28am

      Re: Remember

      And we need to know. If we're not told, we're not going to know why we're getting blow-back when it comes. And be sure of this: they won't be on the receiving end.

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      • identicon
        Pixelation, 28 Mar 2014 @ 6:47pm

        Re: Re: Remember

        ..." they won't be on the receiving end."

        Exactly. We are on the receiving end. Why you ask? Because REDACTED.

        The Ministry for State Security...I mean...the NSA is only trying to help. Move along CITIZEN, there is no story here...

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Mar 2014 @ 7:55am

    The NSA has betrayed the American people

    If you're afraid to conduct the business of the American people in full view of the American people, and if you're afraid to be held accountable to the elected representatives of the American people, then you do not serve the American people. You serve yourselves. You're not patriots. You're not brave. You're not upholding the Constitution. You're not defending the country. You're just indulging your vanity and self-importance delusions.

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  • identicon
    Crazy Canuck, 28 Mar 2014 @ 8:34am

    NSA: I'll answer the question. You want answers?
    Oversight/Public: I think I'm entitled!
    NSA: You want answers?!
    Oversight/Public: I want the truth!
    NSA: You can't handle the truth!

    =P

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  • icon
    Baldaur Regis (profile), 28 Mar 2014 @ 8:44am

    The NSA, the FBI and a parakeet walk into a bar and...shit. I can't think of one goddamn thing that's funny about this.

    I get it they don't HAVE to report to Congress; the whole thing's basically a dog-and-pony act to shut people up (although come to think of it, it IS often funny watching them testify to Congress - it's like watching juvenile delinquents handing in their punishment essays on the topic "Why The Law Is A Good Thing" - lots of ass-grabbing and sly nudges going on in the back row there).

    What I DON'T get is, where are the adults in this fucked up gang of torturers and gleeful eavesdroppers? 'Lord Of The Flies' is NOT a how-to book.

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  • identicon
    FM Hilton, 28 Mar 2014 @ 10:34am

    He got it right the first time.

    "ROCKEFELLER: Don’t you understand the way Intelligence works? Do you think that because I’m Chairman of the Intelligence Committee that I just say I want it, and they give it to me? They control it. All of it. ALL of it. ALL THE TIME. I only get - and my committee only gets - what they WANT to give me."

    That goes for the members of Congress, too. Everyone is playing hide and seek, without any repercussions.

    Maybe it's about time someone in Washington grows a set and decides to stop this shit. Problem is, everyone is so very intent on keeping their jobs. Perhaps we should deprive some of theirs

    I mean, we pay for this every single year..in taxes. What do we get for our money?

    Surveillance, lies, deceit and hypocrisy.

    Such a bargain!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      David, 29 Mar 2014 @ 1:33am

      Re: He got it right the first time.

      I mean, we pay for this every single year..in taxes. What do we get for our money?

      If you actually picked up the full tab, you would not need to raise the debt ceilings all the time.

      Other nations are paying for your surveillance apparatus, and your debt is a promise that you'll return something of value eventually.

      But all your anti-terrorism machine does not produce anything of value. "Quality of life" is something drawing investments as it assures a stable supply of qualified and dedicated long-term workers. But in the U.S., you are much more likely to be killed by street robbery (from people coming from a background unable to afford an education) or by police than by terrorists.

      The sad thing is you'll save more lives by focusing surveillance on police officers than on the general public, at quite reduced cost.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 29 Mar 2014 @ 4:20am

      Re: He got it right the first time.

      Stop paying income taxes today!

      No seriously, please do, since my banking is done completely in the Cayman Islands I don't feel raped anymore. And I'm only Canadian. Hi CSEC!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Mar 2014 @ 9:11am

    Keep voting for same crooks.

    link to this | view in chronology ]


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