Shocking: Red Light Camera Company CEO And Chicago City Official Indicted On Corruption Charges

from the the-chicago-way dept

We've long-argued that red light cameras, those little flashy things that ticket you for going through a stop light, have always been way less about safety and almost entirely about generating revenue for municipalities. And, while we've covered how corrupted the money-flow of these systems can be, you just have to admire the brazenly "Chicago-way" story of how the windy city got into bed with camera peddlers.

The former chief executive officer of Redflex, a major red light camera (RLC) vendor, has been indicted on federal corruption charges stemming from a contract with the City of Chicago. On Wednesday, in addition to former CEO Karen Finley, government prosecutors also indicted John Bills, former managing deputy commissioner at the Department of Transportation, and Bills' friend Martin O'Malley, who was hired as a contractor by Redflex.
Now, I can tell you as a native of the area that city officials getting indicted on corruption charges along with the company bribers barely registers as news here any longer. Hell, we send governors to prison like it was the official retirement plan for the office. The charges in this indictment, however, are a special brand of sleazy. Redflex sold the city on the cameras, hired O'Malley as a contractor for $2 million dollars, and O'Malley then sent much of that cash directly back to DoT official John Bills, like some kind of monetary boomerang. Redflex then got into the act directly, because why the hell not.
Via Redflex employees, Bills also acquired a Mercedes and a condominium in Arizona. A May 2014 affidavit written by an FBI special agent suggests that Bills likely used some of this money to purchase and store a boat, buy a car, pay for an addition to his Michigan cabin, pay for his girlfriend's mortgage, pay his own mortgage, pay his kids' schools, and hire a divorce attorney over the course of several years.
To be fair to Bills, it costs a lot of money to keep your side-piece living happily while you divorce the mother of your children and update that sweet cabin-pad. Oh, it should also be mentioned that Redflex employees sent Bills on a couple of vacations over half a decade, and by "couple" I mean seventeen. This all adds up to 23 counts of mail fraud, wire fraud, bribery, and some additional charges thrown in because screw these guys. And it's not as though these stupid cameras all this corruption paid for actually, you know, worked. The Chicago Tribune's reporting indicates that something like 13,000 bogus tickets were issued to city residents via Redflex cameras, which were dropped in 2013 due in part to this scandal.

But, hey, don't worry, guys. Redflex is all over this problem.
"Last year we announced aggressive leadership changes, industry leading compliance policies and procedures, and a distinction between our past and present," Jody Ryan, a spokeswoman, wrote to Ars. "Redflex Traffic Systems is moving forward. Since we announced these changes we have signed, renewed, or executed over 100 contracts. Redflex has cooperated fully with the investigative authorities while maintaining the integrity of our customer programs. Our focus is on making a life-saving difference in the communities we serve across the country."
Except their cameras don't do any of that and nobody is going to trust anything coming from the company or city officials about the effectiveness of the cameras, either, what with the details on how the Chicago bid was won by Redflex being revealed. It turns out that Bills actually coached Redflex on how to win the bid, rigged the voting order so that members of the evaluation committee Bills had convinced to vote for Redflex would vote first (indicating broad support to other members), and then had the company hire his buddy, O'Malley, as the Chicago account manager for Redflex.

When it comes to Chicago politics, contracts, and the like, this is as Chicago as it gets. However, given that the whole red light camera thing is a money-making scheme to begin with, the whole concept reeks of corruption. Kill these things off now, please.

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Filed Under: chicago, corruption, john bills, karen finley, martin o'malley, red light cameras
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  1. icon
    Ninja (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 9:20am

    I suspect Chicago isn't the only place where such things happen. I'd argue it's where the ones involved just couldn't care less.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:44am

    Response to: Ninja on Aug 22nd, 2014 @ 9:20am

    What Tim is referring to is Chicago - and IL state gov - is quite corrupt by nature. Granted downstate is pretty corrupt independent of that. Looking at you, Peoria mayor Jim Ardis...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. icon
    kenichi tanaka (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:45am

    The only reason why red-light cameras exist is so the cops have more time to spend at coffee and donut shops not to mention spending more time with their girlfriends, boyfriends, wives and husbands.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:48am

    Re:

    "Revenue-Enhancement Devices"

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:54am

    Re: Response to: Ninja on Aug 22nd, 2014 @ 9:20am

    Man, it's a good thing these IL politicians corrupt the federal government as well...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:54am

    Re: Re: Response to: Ninja on Aug 22nd, 2014 @ 9:20am

    bah, "don't corrupt"... oh well, failure is failure.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. icon
    Mason Wheeler (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:57am

    Well, I can't say much about Chicago--last time I was there, I was 12, and it was only for a few hours--but my uncle lives in DC, and he loves them.

    He says that drivers in DC are absolute maniacs who think nothing of running red lights, blocking intersections, and blaring their horns at you if you refuse to endanger people by doing the same. More than once, he's had someone drive around him to block an intersection that he refused to.

    One of his coworkers is an idiot driver who keeps getting caught by the cameras they've got in DC. He says the guy's received "something like 40" tickets by now, and he deserved every one of them. And frankly, with the traffic I have to deal with, I wish we had the same system here in LA, with one modification that DC's system apparently does not have if the story of my uncle's coworker is accurate: revoking the licenses of repeat offenders!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:01am

    Re:

    Thanks for proving the point, with your anecdote, that these cameras don't make drivers behave any safer and only collect money. Way to go?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. icon
    pixelpusher220 (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:05am

    Re:

    yeah, trying to prevent t-bone accidents is something we shouldn't try to do.

    Though I suspect if you'd probably bitch about having a cop on every corner instead of these cameras...what with the massive tax increase it would require.

    Any system run by corrupt people is obviously going to be bad. That doesn't mean the technology is bad, just the implementation.

    Proper oversight solves every issue ever raised against the cameras.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. identicon
    Raging Alcoholic, 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:12am

    In Portland the location of these cameras are known and at those lights people slam on their brakes to not run them. Many a rear end accident has occurred at these locations.
    The local paper ran a report about a year ago that said the cameras don't pay for themselves. (operational costs exceed extortion revenues) but we keep them anyway.

    These red light cameras are a real problem.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:16am

    Re: Re:

    I used to think the same way. I hate seeing people run red lights. The problem is not the technology, but how it's enacted. The first thing these guys do after installing them is cut down on the yellow light time. After all, if people have enough time to get through when it's yellow, they won't get a ticket. The problem with that is people start anticipating the short yellow, so they slam on their brakes the second it goes yellow because they don't want to get a ticket. The guy behind him can't react fast enough and you've replaced t-bone accidents with rear end accidents. I remember reading at least story where the number of accidents actually increased at some intersections. And finally, these tickets are supposed to be reviewed by an officer to make sure they aren't mistakes (like someone turning right on red). No one ever does, or if they do, they just blindly accept every single one. After all, more revenue. I think states should make them illegal to install.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. icon
    Mason Wheeler (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:16am

    Re: Re:

    The point I'm making is that, a few false positives notwithstanding, these cameras sure seem to be in the habit of catching the right people, and with a minor policy modification (revoke the licenses of repeat offenders) they would do some real good.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:20am

    Re:

    The root solution would be to make driver's ed more comprehensive and make the licensing test more difficult. Require a re-test every ~7 years, invest in better mass transit (Portland already has that), and maaaaybe a special license if you want to operate anything larger than a small SUV

    link to this | view in thread ]

  14. icon
    Mason Wheeler (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:24am

    Re:

    Not all accidents are created equal.

    I got rear-ended a while ago. Some idiot two cars back got spooked and swerved to miss a crazy driver he claimed he saw, that none of the witnesses noticed. He hit the guy behind me and pushed him forward into me. The other two guys' cars were a bit banged up in the bumper areas. Mine was completely unscathed. No one was injured.

    I've never been in a T-bone accident (which preventing people from going through red lights is a very good way of preventing,) but I've seen one before. Guy in front of me had a green light, which meant he has the right of way in the intersection. A woman in the left-turn lane on the opposite side tried to turn. I don't know what she was thinking, because her car didn't even start moving until the guy in front of me was already well into the intersection, but she managed to T-bone him dead-on. It was ugly. Ended up with ambulances and traffic snarls and flashing lights everywhere, and that was from someone who started from a dead stop and was just getting into the intersection.

    I can only imagine what it would have been like had the incoming car been going the speed limit. On the other hand, I'd probably prefer not to imagine it at all.

    New technology that will trade T-bone collisions for rear-ends? I'm all for it!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  15. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:28am

    you mean there is collusion between a town official and a company, and the official was paid so the company got a contract to supply something to the town? never heard of that happening before!!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  16. icon
    Dark Helmet (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:44am

    Re: Re: Re:

    You mean, other than the fact that they have a horrible false-positive rate, as described by several media investigations?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  17. identicon
    Michael, 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:46am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Please stop introducing facts into your argument. It really gets in the way of angry ranting.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  18. icon
    Ninja (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:55am

    Re: Re:

    That could be the case if they actually ticketed only people clearly advancing the red light. When it's turning red or immediately after turning red is not a good timing to start ticketing. It doesn't help it you replace 1 T-bone hit per month for 300 rear-ends. The economic damage is the same, the traffic will still be screwed and you may still hurt the drivers. I've been the receiving end of a rear-end and my neck hurt for days after the accident. The guy behind me didn't see the red light and I didn't notice him coming or I'd have advanced it since it was yellow when I stopped. Or not in order not to get ticketed.

    The criticism here is that they set up those crap devices to make money, not to make people safe.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  19. icon
    Designerfx (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:01pm

    Re: Re:

    Whee, lets have more accidents at the expense of falsely implying there's an actual safety interest! In other words, "this is for your own safety, pay up!"

    Red light cameras increasing the frequency of accidents (as has been cited with empirical data frequently) doesn't mean this is an improvement overall. Less tbones, yes - but a system of improving safety? Not at all. They do increase motorist cost, though!

    Real method of improving safety? Make yellow lights longer.

    It's really not any more complicated than that. Of course, then the city can't give away money to redflex/new red light camera company who is easily just as corrupt.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  20. icon
    Mason Wheeler (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:04pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    What would that rate be? And BTW, "13,000 bogus tickets!!!" is not a rate, it's a single data point. Over that same period of time, how many non-bogus tickets did the system produce?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  21. identicon
    Daniel Joseph Calvanese, 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:14pm

    Strange RLC Video

    The one and only ticket I got saw me cross over the line after the light turned red and then slowly make a left turn through an empty intersection.

    The only problem is that I remember a massive truck being there on that day blocking me from seeing the light. The truck wasn't in the video, just a very large gap between the last car that went and me.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  22. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:14pm

    Would be nice if they went after Congress and the Senate, maybe monsanto , the cable industry , the oil guys.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  23. icon
    streetlight (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:21pm

    The one red light camera in out city

    Our city of ~450,000 people put one of these on a main thoroughfare just next to downtown; just this one in the whole city. They shortened the yellow in the 25 MPH zone from something like four seconds to two seconds and rear end collisions at that intersection skyrocketed. Also, they had to put two full time cops on the duty of looking at all the pictures this setup took and writing the tickets to be mailed. The increase in ticketing, both for red light camera and accidents, put a big strain on the police and the city court where the tickets were to be adjudicated. Finally, people learned to avoid this camera by driving one block east of this four-lane road to a much more residential two lane drive. The final result: after less than a year the system was removed and no more talk of red light cameras has been heard since.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  24. icon
    pixelpusher220 (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:32pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    'change of light timing' oversight solves this.

    'tickets not reviewed by officer' again oversight solves this.

    t-bone accidents are much much worse than rear-end accidents. And that 'slam on the brakes' behavior is a training issue, not a problem with the system.

    If you knew the cameras were at every single intersection you'd learn much faster than if you only encounter them once in a while.

    And dropping new technology into a largely untrained (US Drivers) group is going to breed increases in more minor rear-end accidents.

    The training issue is a legitimate concern, something that could have been predicted and should be accounted for. But it's not a fault of the technology.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  25. icon
    pixelpusher220 (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:35pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    you're assuming people are only running red lights because of short yellow light times. I've got news for you, people are running them because they don't want to stop and wait 2 minutes, not because the lights are short. So increasing the yellow light times won't change that behavior.

    reducing T-bone accidents IS an actual safety interest. Properly training people to react to the system would be the correct method for people slamming on their brakes.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  26. identicon
    TestPilotDummy, 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:46pm

    Redress of Grievences

    In a Constitutional Republic with the GREEN light of the corruption, those cameras ought to be FAIR GAME to be smashed.

    But we don't live in a Constitutional Republic, instead it's a bankster owned democracy.

    This is Democracy, and it SUCKS!

    Victimless CRIME here
    I'd NULLIFY the shit.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  27. icon
    John Fenderson (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 12:47pm

    Re: Re:

    "trying to prevent t-bone accidents is something we shouldn't try to do."

    That's not what the cameras are really for. If preventing T-Bones was the main goal, it can be better (and more cheaply) accomplished by changing light timings -- most importantly, making sure that there are a few seconds between one street turning red and the cross street turning green.

    The purpose of the cameras is revenue generation.

    "you'd probably bitch about having a cop on every corner instead of these cameras"

    I would, certainly. But there are more options than just those two.

    "Proper oversight solves every issue ever raised against the cameras."

    Not every problem. There's the problem of the huge cut the camera company takes out of every ticket.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  28. identicon
    HenryHighway, 22 Aug 2014 @ 1:32pm

    Look to California for the future: Tickets are $500.00

    Here in California red light camera tickets cost $500.00.

    We've had cameras here for almost two decades. At one time we had more than 100 cities with red light cameras. Now California is down to less than 50, with recent closures being the large systems operated by Redflex in the Cities of Hayward, Oakland, Santa Ana, Inglewood, and Riverside - 82 cameras in those five cities. In many of those cities the local authorities (chiefs, mayors) made on-the-record statements about the (lack of) efficacy of the cameras. If anyone would like to read those statements, do a search on red light camera candor and then search that Industry PR page for the word candor. But if you're too busy to go there and read what they said, I will summarize: The cameras made no measurable difference in the number of accidents or injuries.

    For those readers who are in California or travel here, here is some semi-secret info about how to deal with our very special flavor of red light cameras. Here's what to do - first thing - if you get one of our tickets.

    1. Check to see if it is a Snitch Ticket, the fake/phishing tickets cops send out to bluff car owners into IDing the actual driver. Snitch Tickets say, at the top, Courtesy Notice-This is not a ticket, and you can ignore them! Skeptical? Search: Snitch Ticket.

    2. REAL camera tickets from ANY city (or sheriff) in LA County can be ignored, as the LA courts do not report ignored camera tickets to the DMV. Search: red light camera no consequence.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  29. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 1:37pm

    Countdown crosswalk timers

    An NPR show (I forget which) brought up an issue where the countdown timers for the "dont walk" signal for pedestrians was contributing to accidents.

    Drivers were seeing the countdown timer as a cue for the light turning (which it is), and speeding up (I guess?) to get through the light on short time.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  30. identicon
    Not Just Another Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 1:51pm

    Probably Don't Need Them

    I was once somewhat like Mason Wheeler, in that I was a proponent of red light cameras, given some of the horrible things I have seen at intersections, and the absolute stupidity of some drivers - in the total absence of red light cameras.

    However, it is a proven fact that red light cameras do not help safety. Furthermore, many municipalities couple red light cameras with decreased yellow light times, which is beyond stupid, it points to a purpose other than safety.

    Now, could red light cameras be used in an effective manner? Since no one seems to do so, my initial answer is no. It seems like they potentially COULD be used to improve safety, but not one study has shown such an improvement, so either everybody is doing it wrong, or people have a reaction to red light cameras that leads to a decrease in safety.

    Oh, and if you are looking for some objective stuff about red light cameras, versus the bogus reports written by the only person to write about the positive benefits of red light cameras, look here:

    http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/studies

    link to this | view in thread ]

  31. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:22pm

    Re: Re: Re: Response to: Ninja on Aug 22nd, 2014 @ 9:20am

    Don't worry, most politicians are corrupt no matter where they come from.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  32. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:29pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    The problem is, when the yellow duration time is set in accordance with federal standards most people stop in time (without rear end accidents) and this leads to little or no profit from the installation.

    If they were put in place to stop t bones, there would be no concern about profit, only a reduction in t bones. But that is not the case is it? They are only after profit and therefore they intentionally violate the federal standard to increase profits while users of that road suffer.

    Many cities have removed the devices because they realize its real cost.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  33. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:34pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    "So increasing the yellow light times won't change that behavior."

    Facts and associated analysis are usually cited to back up such claims. In the absence of same I will assume your claim is bullshit.

    fyi, they don't give a shit about your safety, they want your Benjamins.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  34. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:39pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    You first claimed there were only a few false positives, do you have any data to back that up?

    Demanding data from a reply to your claim? - lol

    link to this | view in thread ]

  35. identicon
    Rich Kulawiec, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:40pm

    How very timely

    This story is in today's Baltimore Sun:

    Redflex lobbying Baltimore for traffic camera contract
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-redflex-speed-cameras-2014 0821,0,7309874.story

    link to this | view in thread ]

  36. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:41pm

    Re: Re:

    That will not solve a anything except a lack of money in corrupt politicians coffers.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  37. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:43pm

    Re: Re:

    Instead of red light cams maybe they need brick walls that spring up in front of the lanes that are supposed to stop.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  38. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 2:46pm

    Re:

    Honor among thieves, good 'ol boys do not steal from each other or they risk being buried in the desert or some such thing.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  39. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 3:00pm

    So glad we dumped Rediflex in Arizona. We had cameras every couple miles on our freeways in addition to the intersection red light cameras and speeding cameras. It made the freeways dangerous because all the idiot drivers would go 90 MPH between the speed cameras slow down for the camera, then repeat.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  40. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 22 Aug 2014 @ 10:30pm

    corruption starts at the top and trickles down.

    When you Americans finally start cleaning house your going to have thousands of corrupt public officials to deal with. Might I suggest hanging them to set an example

    link to this | view in thread ]

  41. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 22 Aug 2014 @ 11:15pm

    The terror.

    Guillotines are classier and deliver the message better.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  42. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2014 @ 5:09am

    Re:

    "you Americans", like there is no corruption anywhere else.

    I think taking away their ill gotten gains would be a more harsh sentence. But that will not happen will it?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  43. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2014 @ 5:29am

    Re: Re: Re:

    with a minor policy modification (revoke the licenses of repeat offenders) they would do some real good.
    There aren't any repeat offenders, just repeat customers. And businesses love having regulars.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  44. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 23 Aug 2014 @ 8:13am

    Re: Re: Re:

    And you're wrong. If safety is your goal, simlly increasing the yellow time is just as effective. The vast majority of tickets are issued to one time offenders, many of which didn't enter the cross lane of traffic but rather stopped a little too close and 'violated the intersection', or performed a 'rolling stop' before turning right on red. The dangerous people still run the red like always, and the cameras vastly increase rear end collisions from people braking abruptly.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  45. icon
    Austin (profile), 24 Aug 2014 @ 11:08am

    Remove It All

    I remember seeing a story on 60 Minutes (eh, what can I say, some days there really is nothing on) about a town in France that had around 30,000 people. They ran an experiment of sorts. They removed all the traffic signs, all the red lights, everything, and replaced all the intersections (that they could - some were too small) with roundabouts. They wanted to see how drivers would cope with basically having to make all of their driving decisions themselves, rather than a ton of signage telling them exactly how to drive.

    The result was a 70% drop in accidents.

    The moral of the story? Even the dumbest humans are still as smart as rats. Stop trying to hint the "right" direction to them, put a little cheese at the end of the maze, and 99% of the time they'll arrive at their destination just fine.

    Stop signs, red lights, and anything else that breaks the flow of traffic always causes problems. That is, when people coast at a steady speed, they don't hit each other. Anything that mandates applying the brakes CREATES an opportunity for a traffic accident where none previously existed.

    Meanwhile, these cameras are a poor attempt at treating a symptom, instead of treating the underlying disease.

    But as has been noted elsewhere, this is all about the money, and the money is always in the treatment, never the cure.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  46. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 25 Aug 2014 @ 12:14pm

    Shocking: The system is corrupt.
    ok, anything else you think people dont know about?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  47. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 25 Aug 2014 @ 1:25pm

    That a dispicable phenomenon is expected or typical...

    ...is not a reason to dismiss outrage about it.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  48. identicon
    Heady LaMar, 22 Oct 2014 @ 9:10am

    Anytime a government views constituents as a funding source

    it is not governing citizens, it is preying upon them.

    link to this | view in thread ]


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