Ron Wyden, Tech Company Execs To Discuss The Impact Of NSA Surveillance On The Digital Economy
from the come-on-by dept
We've talked plenty about the near total failure of the NSA and others in the intelligence community to consider the costs associated with their "collect it all" mentality. Much of the intelligence community's views seem based on the idea that the surveillance efforts would always remain totally secret. The NSA, in particular, appears to have never thought it possible that something like the Snowden revelations might happen, and the intelligence community still seems to be scrambling to figure out what to do in response. In the meantime, however, the impact on the internet has been very real and ongoing. Senator Ron Wyden -- who was one of very, very, very few politicians in DC to be talking out (loudly) about this prior to Snowden -- is coming to Silicon Valley tomorrow for what looks to be quite a discussion with some top execs from the tech industry about the "impact of mass surveillance on the digital economy."With Senator Wyden will be Google chairman Eric Schmidt, Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith, Facebook General Counsel Colin Stretch, Dropbox General Counsel Ramsey Homsany and Greylocks' John Lilly (former Mozilla CEO). In other words, it's a pretty high level gathering -- and it's open to the public. I'll be there to cover it for Techdirt, but for anyone in Silicon Valley, feel free to register to attend.
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With Wyden, there's at least a chance to bring up some of the real issues and to politicize them. If we're really lucky, the big tech companies will start discussing how to coordinate their responses.
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Eisenhower brought up the military-industrial threat to our society in 1961. That threat has been further realized by the militarization of our police forces. Eisenhower was right!
Please remember that our government has every reason to keep a "threat" in the limelight. And not because they gave a crap about the USA. They care about how much money they make and how they can get more of our money.
I have no doubt that manufacturing "situations" is just a new field that they will exploit until someone confronts them.
They lied about the threat from Iraq once, why should we believe them again?
Because some crazies are beheading people that maybe should have realized the danger and not been there? I understand the desire to assist, but a westerner in that situation is gas on a fire.
And lets be clear. Your government could care less if you get killed in that area. You just become propaganda for what they want to do anyway. No matter what side you are on!
Doctor's Without Borders? Willing to bet that many are now on the no-fly list and will be forever.
Jeez, I read this and think "where is my tin hat". Then I think over the last years revelations and realize it isn't implausible at all.
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Cops were far worse during his time than they are now. Ask any non-white person that lived through that era.
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Mouth Wash...
Just rinse, gurgle, and spit it out.
Eric Schmidt and the likes of his executive kind do not actually give a crap. They just care that this is affecting their bottom lines.
The government with the executives & politicians like these little shows because everyone just eats it up... especially the media. History, the one lesson humanity never learns. This play book is old and well read by your leaders... no matter how many tyrants that have come peddling this garbage before we still never learn and so... the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
We can still change this mess by voting in people that care... care enough to put a stop to the endless surveillance and to deconstruct the corruption of the DHS and NSA along with the corrupt to the core politicians in congress which comprises the majority of BOTH parties!
Eric Schmidt would just as soon remove your freedom, privacy, and liberty for his bottom dollar too!
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However, that's not entirely a bad thing. The enemy of my enemy and all that.
If you think about them as a raw destructive force, destroying everything for the sake of profit and things that benefit them directly, in this situation we can point them towards the bigger enemy and let them fight it out.
They already have pockets lined throughout the government. Let us benefit from that.
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"We can still change this mess by voting in people that care."
And of course you actually believe that the assholes in power that are using every trick in the book to screw over the public and rob them blind, will just sit back and let "people that care" take over their positions of power and ruin "this thing of theirs" because the sheep voted for these "people that care" instead!!
How the hell did you think "the people who don't care" got those positions of power?
The American Public voted them into office because they "thought" they were "People That Care".
Unless you're planning to put every candidate through a lie detector 6-8 times before they can run for office, you're just going to get another flock of really good liars convincing you that they really care and then screwing you over once they take office.
Gads. No wonder its so damn easy to fleece the American public, over and over and over and over.....
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back in oz
our goverment being a bunch of right wing nutcases has cut billions of dollars in taxes, causing a 10% drop in the value of the currency, now I expect them to push for mass spying on ordinary peoples downloading habits. how many more schools will need to close.
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So I sort of believe that it will have to be the corporations worried about their global bottom line that is going to make the difference. I wish it was the public throwing a fit causing major changes but that isn't happening. So I'll take more privacy any way I can get it.
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I wonder what his view is on the FBI and DOJ's fear-mongering about encryption bring about the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Pedophiles, terrorists, kidnappers, and drug dealers.
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Slow news day.
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The impact of NSA surveillance on the digital economy....
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