Laura Poitras Sues US Government To Find Out Why She Was Detained Every Time She Flew

from the time-for-some-answers dept

These days, Laura Poitras is known as the Oscar-winning director of the Ed Snowden documentary CITIZENFOUR, and with it, one of the reporters who helped break Snowden's story in the first place. Pre-Snowden, she was a not-as-widely-known-but-still-celebrated documentary filmmaker, who also got some attention after her future colleague Glenn Greenwald wrote an article about how she was detained at the border every time she flew into the country (which was frequently, as she had made a documentary, My Country, My Country, concerning the Iraq War, along with The Oath, which reported on two Yemenis who had worked with Osama bin Laden). As Greenwald wrote back in 2012:
But Poitras’ work has been hampered, and continues to be hampered, by the constant harassment, invasive searches, and intimidation tactics to which she is routinely subjected whenever she re-enters her own country. Since the 2006 release of “My Country, My Country,” Poitras has left and re-entered the U.S. roughly 40 times. Virtually every time during that six-year-period that she has returned to the U.S., her plane has been met by DHS agents who stand at the airplane door or tarmac and inspect the passports of every de-planing passenger until they find her (on the handful of occasions where they did not meet her at the plane, agents were called when she arrived at immigration). Each time, they detain her, and then interrogate her at length about where she went and with whom she met or spoke. They have exhibited a particular interest in finding out for whom she works.

She has had her laptop, camera and cellphone seized, and not returned for weeks, with the contents presumably copied. On several occasions, her reporter’s notebooks were seized and their contents copied, even as she objected that doing so would invade her journalist-source relationship. Her credit cards and receipts have been copied on numerous occasions. In many instances, DHS agents also detain and interrogate her in the foreign airport before her return, on one trip telling her that she would be barred from boarding her flight back home, only to let her board at the last minute. When she arrived at JFK Airport on Thanksgiving weekend of 2010, she was told by one DHS agent — after she asserted her privileges as a journalist to refuse to answer questions about the individuals with whom she met on her trip — that he “finds it very suspicious that you’re not willing to help your country by answering our questions.” They sometimes keep her detained for three to four hours (all while telling her that she will be released more quickly if she answers all their questions and consents to full searches).
It wasn't only at the border that she was subject to such searches. Often, even when flying domestically within the US, she was called out for further scrutiny and searches.

After Greenwald's article, a bunch of documentary filmmakers signed a petition protesting the treatment of Poitras, and between the press coverage and the petition, the harassment of Poitras suddenly stopped.

After this, she filed some FOIA requests to find out why she had been supposedly given a high threat rating in the DHS database, causing such detentions. Not surprisingly, the government refused to reveal any such information. And that brings us to the latest, where Poitras, with help from the EFF, has now sued the US government (specifically the Departments of Homeland Security and Justice) to get them to reveal why she was considered a threat.

As the filing itself explains, Poitras filed FOIA requests with basically every part of the government that might have information on her detentions, and basically got nothing in response from any of them, either by mostly ignoring the requests or rejecting them.

As the lawsuit also notes, Poitras took detailed records of her detentions (when she could -- in at least one instance she was denied the use of a pen to take notes after being told she might use it as a weapon). And the lawsuit includes some detailed descriptions. Here's just a snippet from a much longer list.
On or around August 22, 2006, while traveling from Sarajevo, the capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, to John F. Kennedy International Airport (“JFK”) in New York City after attending the Sarajevo Film Festival, Plaintiff was paged to security while transiting through the Vienna International Airport in Vienna, Austria. Plaintiff was thereafter taken into a van and driven to a security inspection area. All of Plaintiff’s bags were searched and xrayed. The head of airport security at the Vienna International Airport told Plaintiff that her “Threat Score” was 400 out of 400 points. Plaintiff was eventually allowed to board a plane to the United States. Upon her arrival at JFK, CBP agents again met her at the gate. Plaintiff was thereafter escorted to a holding room, where she was detained and questioned for roughly two (2) hours, and where her bags were searched for a second time, before being allowed to enter the United States.

On or around November 26, 2006, while traveling from Paris, France to Newark on her way home from a vacation, Plaintiff was met by boarder agents upon her arrival at Newark. She was detained and questioned for 30 minutes.

On or around December 17, 2006, while traveling from Dubai, United Arab Emirates to JFK after attending the Dubai Film Festival, Plaintiff was met by border agents upon her arrival at JFK. She was again detained and questioned before being allowed entry into the United States. The CBP agents asked Plaintiff when she had last been to Atlanta, Georgia and told her that she had a criminal record, despite that she had never been arrested.
Unfortunately, the courts have been pretty deferential to the government concerning things like the "no fly" list and the terrorist database, which means this lawsuit might be a long shot. However, one hopes that a judge will see both the clear ridiculousness of the treatment and the rather obvious fact that it was designed to intimidate Poitras and chill her First Amendment rights, and consider forcing the government into releasing these documents.
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  1. icon
    That One Guy (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 1:51pm

    'Because we can' doesn't look so well on a FOIA response

    After this, she filed some FOIA requests to find out why she had been supposedly given a high threat rating in the DHS database, causing such detentions. Not surprisingly, the government refused to reveal any such information.

    Well of course they refused to reveal the reason, they're hardly going to publicly admit that she'd getting that treatment because she made the USG look bad, and they're making an example of her in response.

    It's all a matter of plausible deniability. Even if the reason for the harassment is blatantly clear, so long as they refuse to provide the reason, they can continue to pretend that it's due to some super secret, can never be revealed otherwise The Terrorists Will Win!(tm) reason, and as a result continue showing what happens to anyone who makes the government look bad.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:20pm

    in at least one instance she was denied the use of a pen to take notes after being told she might use it as a weapon


    As the famous saying goes, the pen is mightier than the sword.

    It says a lot about a government when their biggest fear is a journalist with a pen. I doubt these thugs, who clearly had stabbing on their mind, even realized the irony of what they said.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:29pm

    They don't need help

    Nobody need help the Gov. look bad, they do a very credible job all by themselves. Its like stumbling down the face of Mt. Everest one pratfall after another. Its like a satire of a dysfunctional government, but sadly its real. We need a new protected class: political dissidents. Oh wait the Constitution, I forgot pardon me.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:32pm

    United Fascists of America

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    That One Other Not So Random Guy, 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:35pm

    Re: They don't need help

    The what now? Isn't that a fancy historical document no one pays attention to anymore.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. icon
    TasMot (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:39pm

    Re:

    Let me fix that for you, it's the USA:

    United Sadist of America.

    Let's face it, all thats missing from her detainments is the gratuitous body cavity searches.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. icon
    tqk (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:56pm

    Re:

    It says a lot about a government when their biggest fear is a journalist with a pen.

    I don't believe they had any fear of her in mind. Not many women with pens are going to turn out to be mass-murdering assassins.

    No, this is all about their resentment of her actions, resentment of her questioning the party line, and intimidation hoping she'd get sick of their abuse and fall in line. She's guilty in their eyes of Thoughtcrime (I don't recall that ever being made illegal).

    At the very least, I hope she and the EFF can raise a massive stink focusing plenty of eyeballs on the asshole behaviour gov'ts today engage in when we question their premises. Whose gov't is it anyway? Ours, theirs, or somebody they're not telling us about?

    To anti-establishment journalists everywhere, I suggest they always carry a box of crayons to fall back on when they take the pens and pencils away. Let them try to justify confiscating something designed to be used by pre-schoolers.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. identicon
    andy, 14 Jul 2015 @ 2:59pm

    Oh come on!!!!

    So many people from America have come out saying they feel safe when they see all these border checks and people being detained, until it is them that has to go though it.

    The government has been so good at their misinformation and spreading fear since 9/11 that most Americans honestly believe that they have to lose some of their freedoms to live safely. even though it has been proven that with all these safety features in place the 9/11 attack would probably have still happened.

    America is no longer the land of the free as advertised and drummed into Americans from when they can first understand it. America has become a police state just as bad if not worse than some African countries, at least in africa people see corruption for what it is In America people support the corruption as they have been convinced it is good for them.

    America is a police state just like the UK and most supposed first world countries.

    I hope this judge sees common sense and rules against the government and rules that no fly lists must be approved by a court to be legal.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. icon
    tqk (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:01pm

    Re: Re: They don't need help

    The what now? Isn't that a fancy historical document no one pays attention to anymore.

    Yeah, that thing they instantly forget about after having sworn to defend it.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. icon
    scotts13 (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:04pm

    Remember the Cold War?

    When I was a kid, they warned us if the "commies" won, we would live in a country... very much like America today. (Well, with more lines). Did I miss a world war somewhere along the line? I wasn't paying attention.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. icon
    jupiterkansas (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:06pm

    Re: Re:

    Those crayons could be made of explosive material.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. icon
    jupiterkansas (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:07pm

    Re: Remember the Cold War?

    We were trying to hard not to be like the commies that we became the commies.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:22pm

    Re: Re:

    I don't believe they had any fear of her in mind.

    They fear her pen for what it may reveal about them, or rather their masters.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  14. icon
    tqk (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:44pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Those crayons could be made of explosive material.

    Great! Lets sic the DHS on kindergartens. They might be able to handle miscreants like that (might, but "Kindergarden Cop" may disprove that assumption), and I think we'd all feel safer if DHS were all sent back to kindergarten.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  15. icon
    tqk (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 3:52pm

    Re: Re: Remember the Cold War?

    We were trying too hard not to be like the commies that we became the commies.

    I think it was more that you were so enamored with "Freedom, justice, and the American Way" that you failed to notice fascists were in charge, and always had been in charge. Me too. :-P

    link to this | view in thread ]

  16. identicon
    Justme, 14 Jul 2015 @ 4:21pm

    National Security. . .

    When you actively work to create a constant fear of imminent danger and feel intimidation of those citizens that peacefully oppose your views is justifiable, You undermine both the nation and it's security.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  17. identicon
    Digitari, 14 Jul 2015 @ 4:37pm

    simple

    they get Paid to keep us all in fear...........

    link to this | view in thread ]

  18. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 4:47pm

    Women with pens

    Did you not read the article? Ms. Poitras' Threat Score was 400 out of 400 points. You can't get threatier than that! Maximum Threatiness! That's the equivilant of a terrorist with standing orders, bombs, weapons and supplies at her disposal already available to her at the target site, and a plan B in case things go awry!

    Poitras is a Modesty Blaise, Emily Pollifax, Felicity Flint and Sarah Walker open-faced sandwich topped with Cammie Morgan sauce with a side of Agent 99 and a bottomless cup of Cate Archer. At 400/400, she's a master infiltrator, agent provocateur, skilled saboteur, proficient in disguise and skilled in the secret ninja arts of Shiatjitsu.

    I mean, compare her to all the other 400/400 threats on the list and it all makes sense.

    They were right not to trust her with a pen. Unarmed she could kill everyone in the room in slow motion before the first victim hit the floor. She's the arch-nemesis of Jack Bauer, no less.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  19. identicon
    Quiet Lurcker, 14 Jul 2015 @ 4:57pm

    Re: They don't need help

    >>Its like stumbling down the face of Mt. Everest one pratfall after another.

    More like Daffy Duck in 'Robin Hood Daffy', I should think.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  20. icon
    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 5:24pm

    Her threat score is 400 out of 400.
    She has never joined a jihad.
    She has never murdered a captive.
    She has never plotted a terror attack.

    If you weren't convinced that it was all security theater before now, please explain how this isn't.

    She is a citizen, and this is how she was treated.
    These are how her rights were trampled.
    They put so much time and effort into hounding her, do you think they had time to look for real terrorists?
    She upset someone with power, and they used the law exactly how we were promised it wouldn't ever be used.
    We need to demand that the programs be ended, those in charge indicted, and demand that citizens have their rights returned to them.

    Or we can keep pretending we haven't fallen through the looking glass and are sliding down a slope of a dystopian dictatorship. Doubleplus good.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  21. identicon
    Rekrul, 14 Jul 2015 @ 5:57pm

    After this, she filed some FOIA requests to find out why she had been supposedly given a high threat rating in the DHS database, causing such detentions. Not surprisingly, the government refused to reveal any such information. And that brings us to the latest, where Poitras, with help from the EFF, has now sued the US government (specifically the Departments of Homeland Security and Justice) to get them to reveal why she was considered a threat.

    Why does anyone even bother filing FOIA requests anymore? Unless it's about something mundane all you're going to get is silence and stonewalling until you file the inevitable lawsuit. Is having made FOIA requests a prerequisite to filing a lawsuit?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  22. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 6:08pm

    Why is she sueing? the answer to he question is in the very fist sentence of this article. She should be suing for harassment.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  23. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 6:23pm

    Re:

    Yes, filing the FOIA request is prerequisite to the suit. You can't say 'They wouldn't tell me why' until you ask.

    And the government can't say 'Because Terrorism(C)' because then you'd know the means and methods behind you being called a terrorist.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  24. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 6:51pm

    Pretty much the precursor to any lawsuit is asking nicely.

    Generally, if you want to sue to get something done (and have a strong case to increase your chance of success) you have to demonstrate you've exhausted all other resources prior to appealing to the judicial system.

    So yes. You have to file a FOIA request, and give them a reasonable amount of time to respond appropriately. Only when that time has expired or you've received an inappropriate response does a legal suit become viable.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  25. identicon
    drjimmy, 14 Jul 2015 @ 7:31pm

    Re: Re: Remember the Cold War?

    Not commies, but fascists.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  26. identicon
    Ignorant, 14 Jul 2015 @ 8:19pm

    Why do they want to know everything?

    Former head of the national security agency said that their motto was "Collect It All". Why do they want to know everything about everyone?

    I mean the real reasons, not the official ones.
    I'm not being sarcastic, just curious...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  27. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 8:38pm

    Re: Why do they want to know everything?

    Well, when paired with discretionary prosecution it means that they have enough dirt on anyone to put them into jail for as long as they want.

    So if they decide you are an enemy (say for exercising your First Amendment rights, voicing dissent and sounding too on-the-mark yet reasonable) then they can drum up some reason to Bastille you forever.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  28. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 8:40pm

    Oh and (this is the fun bit for Romance Fiction)...

    Say, if you have a hot husband, and some VIP wants to have her way with him, only you and he are happily married, by having all your collective dirt, she can not only put you away for eternity, but use it as biographical leverage to make him into her love slave.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  29. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 9:27pm

    Re: Re:

    Do be all 'let me fix that for you' and then fuck it up yourself.

    hint: sadists

    link to this | view in thread ]

  30. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 10:18pm

    "...she was denied the use of a pen to take notes after being told she might use it as a weapon."


    The pen is mightier than the sword? Somehow I don't think the DHS agent meant it that way.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  31. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 10:49pm

    This woman has a very legitimate complaint.

    But "boarder agents"? Who the hell is the EFF employing now? University of Phoenix graduates?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  32. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 11:32pm

    Six degrees of accomplices & just as guilties

    How can we know the above is in fact malicious retaliation?

    I think agencies quickly start thinking (via groupthink) that meeting up with somebody on the FBI's Most Wanted list is reason enough to be adding that new name to their National Security Threat list.

    With that attitude embedded within US procedures then little wonder how fast, say, the NSA's surveillance list grew to now name everyone above ground or dead.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  33. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 12:29am

    McCarthyism 2.0

    Need I say more?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  34. icon
    MrTroy (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 12:40am

    Re: Oh come on!!!!

    See Uriel-238's suggestion above

    link to this | view in thread ]

  35. icon
    MrTroy (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 12:41am

    Re: Re: Oh come on!!!!

    Wow, fail. This was meant to be a reply to That Anonymous Coward, below.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  36. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 1:11am

    Re: Women with pens

    You know who else has a 400/400 Threat Score?

    Dick Cheney. /snark

    link to this | view in thread ]

  37. icon
    Seegras (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 1:20am

    boarding agents: etymology

    Contrary to popular belief, the origin of "boarding agents" does not come from "waterboarding", although we can understand with todays practice that people might get this idea.

    Correct is of course that this comes from the boarding of ships and ransacking and pillaging them, sometimes also known as "customs".

    link to this | view in thread ]

  38. icon
    MadAsASnake (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 2:49am

    Of course she has a score of 400/400. This is a score of the threat level to the fearmongering collect it all NSA/FBI/CIA collection activities. It is not a score of the threat of terror related issues against US nationals.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  39. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 3:16am

    Re: Oh come on!!!! USE a Court??

    Just a Rubber Stamp Court, which Court would be best?. My Guess is fisa.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  40. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 3:20am

    Re: Re: Re: Remember the Cold War?

    You Won the Cold War, but this is Just the "Peace Dividend".

    link to this | view in thread ]

  41. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 5:44am

    Re: Re:

    "Party line" makes it sound like it is a political issue. In case of "national security" no politician has all the information. Much of it because of plausible deniability.

    The military complex is an independent dictatorship living within the US and getting funded by US to do all the things the politicians wants to hide. Apart from the army, navy and airforce, the military is a huge research institute, a huge data-hub, a coordinating unit for government services, a massive voice in the political arena, a communication bureau and one of the largest security companies in the world. With as broad priorities as that and as good dictatorial tools at hand, they are basically a messy state of its own. The politicians can defund them as much as they can tax nature. Beating people with stronger means of hurting you than you have of hurting them is a bad idea.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  42. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 6:05am

    Re: boarding agents: etymology

    There is no such thing as a "boarder agent". A border agent, yes. A "boarder agent", no.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  43. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 7:31am

    Re: Re: Women with pens

    Watch out, you might get shot in the face... then you will have to apologize!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  44. identicon
    RD, 15 Jul 2015 @ 7:37am

    Required now?

    after she asserted her privileges as a journalist to refuse to answer questions about the individuals with whom she met on her trip — that he “finds it very suspicious that you’re not willing to help your country by answering our questions.”

    Gee, I didn't realize that unquestioning patriotism was now a legal requirement in this country.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  45. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 8:21am

    Re: Required now?

    It's not. But if you don't want to find out how you've broken the law, than shut up and be patriotic.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  46. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 8:59am

    Re: Oh come on!!!!

    Those that sacrifice liberty for safety, deserve neither...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  47. icon
    John Fenderson (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 9:39am

    Re: Required now?

    "unquestioning patriotism was now a legal requirement in this country"

    Poitras was the one behaving patriotically. The officials were not.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  48. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 11:13am

    she refuses to give up her rights so they are targeting her out of spite.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  49. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 12:16pm

    Re: Re: boarding agents: etymology

    Well, someone ought to be keeping tabs on all the wacky hijinks taking place in our nation's B&Bs...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  50. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 12:38pm

    Re: Re: Required now?

    A true patriot knows that he has rights, and is damn proud of them. But only a treasonous bastard would exercise those rights. It's kinda like the Second Amendment: we can bear arms, but we can't just wander around firing them willy-nilly...

    (Holy crap: I think I just Poe'd myself.)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  51. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 12:59pm

    Boarder agents

    Are agents who board a plane to fetch their targets, eat their board and then smack them with boards to get them to deboard. I don't think they have anything to do with borders except when they're bored.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  52. identicon
    GEMont, 15 Jul 2015 @ 1:48pm

    Hello Snowflake - welcome to Hell.

    "... forcing the government into releasing these documents."

    Forcing!
    The Government!
    Oh that's good.

    You'd need some kind of law that protects American citizens from the Federal Government to pull that off methinks, and as far as I can tell, all those laws were rewritten or trashed right after 911, because, you know, terrorists can be citizens and citizens can be terrorists and all that.

    Prediction: Any judge unfortunate enough to have to rule on this will be subjected to the standard "We have pictures of you and three 9-year-old boys doing the dirty in a closet." NSA brown envelope mail package, resulting in a ...wait for it... legal finding in favor of the Feds.

    Force the government - damn, that's Hillary-ous.

    ---

    link to this | view in thread ]

  53. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 15 Jul 2015 @ 2:14pm

    Re: Re: Re: Women with pens

    I saw a DVD about that once. Most interesting.

    Oh, PENS!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  54. identicon
    Archfeld, 15 Jul 2015 @ 2:31pm

    FOIA

    Yes, how can you sue for failing to provide the documents you have not requested ??

    link to this | view in thread ]

  55. identicon
    dorpus, 15 Jul 2015 @ 2:48pm

    What if she is in fact suspicious?

    It's well known that Putin funds both right-wing and left-wing extremists to increase social divisions in the West. Anybody notice that Alex Jones really hates the US military, while calling himself a conservative patriot?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  56. icon
    got_runs? (profile), 15 Jul 2015 @ 2:49pm

    The police state doesn't like you.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  57. identicon
    drgnkght, 15 Jul 2015 @ 6:09pm

    Re: Remember the Cold War?

    Well, with more lines

    You have been to an airport lately, right?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  58. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 16 Jul 2015 @ 1:26am

    Laura Poitras, one of the last true journalists

    link to this | view in thread ]

  59. identicon
    Rekrul, 16 Jul 2015 @ 2:37pm

    Re: FOIA

    Yes, how can you sue for failing to provide the documents you have not requested ??

    Past history of the government's unwillingness to provide documents in response to FOIA filings.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  60. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 16 Jul 2015 @ 10:25pm

    I think in that case you have to build an exemplary case.

    Or, use other incidents that are exemplary of abusive neglect of the FOIA system, by failing to respond, over-redacting or otherwise obstructing access.

    And then take this set of cases to a court of appeals to submit that the system is actually broken. When dealing with corporations this would be some kind of class action or antitrust thing, but I don't know the protocol by which we'd appeal regarding systemic abusive behavior by government agencies. This is my IANAL.

    link to this | view in thread ]


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