Chris Christie Says Asset Forfeiture Transparency Is Bad For Law Enforcement, Vetoes Unanimously-Supported Bill
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Part of the reason asset forfeiture is such a problem is the lack of transparency. The funds obtained through this process are frequently hidden from the public and used to purchase everything from margarita makers to Stingray devices. The procedure through which the government takes control of citizens' assets is also shrouded in secrecy. Cases are filed against property, not the persons formerly in possession of them. The process for retrieval is purposely impenetrable, designed to make it almost impossible for petitioners to reclaim their assets.
Law enforcement officials claim that all parts of this opaque process are there to prevent drug dealing and/or terrorism, hence their reluctance to divulge the inner details of this particular mean/method. Legislators in New Jersey were hoping to end this unofficial tradition with a bill that would have demanded far more transparency from agencies involved in asset forfeiture.
S2267 passed with unanimous support in both houses of the State legislature and would have instituted the following information be submitted to the state Attorney General's office every year.
[I]nformation on the seizure of the property, including a description of the seized property; the date of seizure ; the market value of the seized property; the alleged criminal offense associated with the seizure; a description of the location at which the property was seized, including whether the property was seized from a private residence or business or during a traffic stop; if the property was seized during a traffic stop, the name of the highway, street, or road on which the property was seized and whether the vehicle was traveling northbound, southbound, eastbound or westbound;
(2) the disposition of any criminal action related to the seizure;
(3) information on forfeiture of the seized property, including:
(a) whether the forfeiture involved prima facie contraband or was enforced by civil action pursuant to N.J.S.2C:64-1 et seq., the forfeiture was a result of racketeering activity pursuant to N.J.S.2C:41-1 et seq., or the forfeited funds or property were obtained from an action involving financial facilitation of a crime pursuant to P.L.1994, c.121 (C.2C:21-23 et seq.); and
(b) whether a person with a property interest in the seized property was represented by counsel at the forfeiture proceeding, if applicable;
(4) information on the final disposition of the seized property, including whether the property was returned to the owner, destroyed, sold after forfeiture, or retained after forfeiture; and the date of disposition;
(5) information on the value of 1the1 forfeited property, including the gross amount received from 1the1 forfeiture, the total expenses deducted as part of the forfeiture action, and the net amount received from the forfeiture;
(6) whether the forfeiture resulted from an adoptive seizure; and
(7) any other information the Attorney General requires.
This information would have provided the public with valuable insight into state law enforcement's use of asset forfeiture. And there are several reasons law enforcement wouldn't want to have to turn over these details. The dirty secret of asset forfeiture is that it's not being used to take down the biggest and baddest criminals. It's far more frequently used to nickle-and-dime average citizens, with a majority of an agency's take being made up of seizures valued at well below $10,000. Vehicles are seized from grandmothers because their grandchildren drove drunk. Any cash on anyone who smells like marijuana to a police officer usually ends up being forfeited even if the person is free to go.
These details would have made the state's asset forfeiture programs looks exactly as bad as they are. New Jersey holds a D rating from the Institute for Justice, which performs annual reviews of states' forfeiture programs, rating them for damage done to citizens' rights and property. One of the aspects of forfeiture that aided in the state's D rating is the lack of transparency and almost-nonexistent reporting requirements.
County prosecutors across the state collected $72 million in forfeiture proceeds from 2009 to 2013, including more than $57 million in cash and vehicles worth $9 million, according to the report.
In addition, the report found county agencies received an average of $7 million a year from federal "equitable sharing" programs that give state and local agencies a cut when they serve on federal task forces.
But the millions tallied by the institute "are a vast undercount for what's going on in New Jersey," according to Dick Carpenter, the group's director of strategic research and one of the authors of the report.
Carpenter said it's difficult to get the whole picture in New Jersey because while the state does collect some data, it was not able to provide the group with comprehensive figures for local and state law enforcement agencies.
"The transparency in New Jersey is pretty poor," he said. "The ability for average folks -- or even elected officials -- to know what's going on in their state or municipality just isn't there."
None of this matters now, at least not for the foreseeable future. Governor Chris Christie has decided the public isn't on the "need to know" list as far as asset forfeiture is concerned.
Gov. Chris Christie on Monday vetoed a bill that would have required county and state prosecutors to publish information about how they use civil courts to seize property from criminal investigations.
In order to fend off any attempts at a veto override, Christie has proposed his own law enforcement-friendly "fixes" to the rejected legislation.
Christie instead recommended a quarterly report in which prosecutors identify seized assets and detail the legal proceedings by which they were seized.
Under Christie's proposal, prosecutors also would not have to disclose why they seized an asset or for what purpose it would be used.
Christie's "compromise" does nothing. Quarterly reports are already filed with the attorney general, but they're withheld from the public. The details included are minimal and provide no useful insight into law enforcement's forfeiture activities. And it's not as though the AG's office goes after agencies for incomplete or nonexistent reporting. There appears to be no consequences for agencies that fail to comply with these minimal reporting requirements.
Of course, Christie's "compromise" is predicated on a ridiculous pretense.
The governor said his proposed changes would "strike a balance between government transparency and protecting law enforcement operations and personnel."
Protect law enforcement from what exactly? Transparency? Accountability? Criticism? There's nothing in the information the bill demanded that would make it anything more dangerous for law enforcement. It might inform the public where law enforcement likes to go diving for dollars, but the only negative thing likely to happen to law enforcement is an increase in informed criticism.
In Christie's mouth, the words "government transparency" are meaningless -- as meaningless in his buzzword jumbling, bootlicking excuse for kicking the legislature's unanimously-supported bill to the curb.
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“The veto non-overriders were never supporters
The legislators who truly support the bill needs to be saying right now is that anyone who doesn't vote to override the veto was never really interested in reform. The non-overriders were just looking for cover because this government activity is so obviously heinous to the public.
Don't let them have that cover. Don't let them imply that they were willing to do take a step in the right direction when all they were really willing to do was glance in the right direction and then walk away.
Make it clear that not voting to push the bill past the veto is the same as never having voted to pass it in the first place. The question is not, "Did you vote for the bill?" it's "Did you support the bill after the veto?"
This notion that they need to find a compromise is BS. Efforts to fix something utterly unjustifiable require no compromise with efforts to keep the unjustifiable in place.
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Gotta love those checks and balances
Unanimous support in both houses of the state legislature, and the governor kills it off with a shug and a "Nope."
Assuming they can override the veto by simply voting again and getting enough supporting votes the second time around(shouldn't be that difficult if the first vote is any indicator) I certainly hope they do so and tell him to stuff his attempt to hide the rampant theft by the police via laughably obvious 'fixes' back in the void that may have once housed his sense of responsibility to represent the best interests of those that voted him into office.
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Bait and switch perhaps?
Vote in favor of something you know will be vetoed, then when it's shut down you present the 'compromise' that you actually were in favor for originally, allowing you to get what you wanted and lament that you really wanted more but were 'gracious' enough to settle for less?
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"Several of the 13 Republicans who had voted in favor of the original bill before its December veto, only to vote against an override today, urged lawmakers to put their differences aside and work out a compromise."
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Authoritarianism
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At least in third world countries you pay bribes, in America they just take everything you own.
Remember the case where for weeks the police kept returning to the old woman's farm and just taking whatever they wanted on her farm or in her house, including her tv and radio and heaters and water pump..well just about anything the police wanted for themselves, and yes it was different police officers every time just going to see what they could steal from the poor farmers. That was in America not Russia.
I have a lot of family living in America , luckily in the north where it is slightly better, but even they have stated that if they are ever travelling they will not have any money with them and if they have cards they will have two accounts, as i suggested, a savings account and a primary account, the primary account will never have more than a few dollars in it for emergencies , about $50 - $100. Just in case police take them to a machine to check there balance and force them to withdraw funds.
They have said that if it gets any worse they will move north or south as many Americans are doing right now.
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In Christie's Defense:
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Nice bridge you've got there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to it.
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Next up, swimmer discovers water is wet.
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Therefore, water is actually NOT wet... or shall we say... many people have not discovered this yet. The people deserve to know that this was all cock blocked by a single person so they know where to NOT ship their votes next time.
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It is all illegally obtained
Prosecuting government corruption publicly will be the highlight of the next administration.
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History shows, that the newcomer just takes advantage of the corruption that the oldleaver left behind.
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Confucius Says: Wisdom is to Call Things Their Proper Names*
Chris Christie Says Asset Forfeiture Transparency Is Bad For Law Enforcement, Vetoes Unanimously-Supported Bill
It would be very helpful in advancing the debate about unjust takings by the government to dispense with the euphemism of Asset Forfeiture and call the dastardly criminal action by it's true name: larceny.
It matters not if the perpetrators are wearing masks or government issued costumes. Larceny is larceny.
Do not allow those operating within government to hide their criminal acts behind the weasel words of Asset Forfeiture.
Demand accountability.
Highlighted text below was excerpted from Quora.com:
* Jason Chen, wisdom is power
Written 10 Oct 2015
It is originated from Confucius's work Analects, but it is rather a liberal translation, the original Chinese is as follows:
"君子于其所不知，盖阙如也。名不正则言不顺，言不顺则事不成� ��事不成则礼乐不兴，礼乐不兴则刑罚不中，刑罚不中则民无所措手足。故� �子名之必可言也，言之必可行也。君子于其言，无所苟而已矣。"
and the more accurate translation is:
"A superior man, in regard to what he does not know, shows a cautious reserve. If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success. When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music do not flourish. When proprieties and music do not flourish, punishments will not be properly awarded. When punishments are not properly awarded, the people do not know how to move hand or foot. Therefore a superior man considers it necessary that the names he uses may be spoken appropriately, and also that what he speaks may be carried out appropriately. What the superior man requires is just that in his words there may be nothing incorrect."
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The moment you run into someone that disagrees with you, then you are nothing more than a...
bigot
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homophobe
xenophobe
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extremist
We don't like using the appropriate words around here!
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Robbery-at-badgepoint could be all but demolished overnight with two simple changes:
1) Require a conviction of the property owner before any assets are taken.
2) Any assets seized and the resulting funds are donated, in their entirety, to the office of the public defense.
In two steps you raise the bar to the absolute minimum it should be for someone to have their stuff taken, and completely remove the incentive for police and government agencies to steal anything that catches their eye, because the last thing they want is for people accused of breaking the law to be able to defend themselves in court, rather than being forced into plea deals.
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Must be nice ...
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'Dumb criminals go to prison, smart criminals go into law enforcement and/or politics.'
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"Do you think I have others?" said Lord Vetinari. "My motives, as ever, are entirely transparent."
Hughnon reflected that 'entirely transparent' meant either that you could see right through them or that you couldn't see them at all.”
― Terry Pratchett, The Truth
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The veto non-overriders were never supporters
The legislators who truly support the bill needs to be saying right now is that anyone who doesn't vote to override the veto was never really interested in reform. The non-overriders were just looking for cover because this government activity is so obviously heinous to the public.
Don't let them have that cover. Don't let them imply that they were willing to do take a step in the right direction when all they were really willing to do was glance in the right direction and then walk away.
Make it clear that not voting to push the bill past the veto is the same as never having voted to pass it in the first place. The question is not, "Did you vote for the bill?" it's "Did you support the bill after the veto?"
This notion that they need to find a compromise is BS. Efforts to fix something utterly unjustifiable require no compromise with efforts to keep the unjustifiable in place.
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