FTC Calls Out Nintendo, Microsoft, And Sony For Their Illegal 'Warranty Void If Removed' Stickers
from the STICKER-ILLEGAL-IF-DEPLOYED dept
Early last month, the FTC took a small step towards enforcing a decades-old law. The 1975 Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act forbade manufacturers from placing repair restrictions on electronic devices costing over $5. This means the little stickers claiming "warranty void if removed" are not just bullshit. They're also illegal.
Forty years of "void if removed" stickers being plastered on tons of consumer electronics means the law has done little to prevent manufacturers from placing repair restrictions on consumers. The language is so ubiquitous consumers assume tinkering with their purchased products will instantly void warranties. Many also believe taking their electronics to anyone but the manufacturer (or manufacturer-approved repair shops) for service will similarly remove warranty protections.
The fact is that the burden rests on manufacturers to prove any tinkering or third-party repair voided the warranty's coverage. Of course, given the number of restrictions and exceptions contained in electronic device fine print, chances are doing anything to anything is probably gives manufacturers the "evidence" they need to duck out of warranty obligations.
The press release by the FTC did not name the six manufacturers targeted by these cease-and-desist letters. Motherboard has now unmasked these lawbreakers, thanks to an FOIA request. And they're pretty much exactly who you think they are.
Motherboard has obtained copies of the letters via a Freedom of Information Act request and has learned the names of the six companies that were warned. They are Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Hyundai, HTC, and computer hardware manufacturer ASUS.
The letters were sent by Lois Greisman, the FTC’s associate director of marketing practices, on April 9; the FTC has given each company 30 days to change its official warranty policies and says that it may take legal action against the companies.
Conspicuously missing from this list is Apple, which is perhaps the most overbearing in its insistence that anything not specifically performed by Apple techs voids warranties. Apple has taken steps over the years to prevent owners from attempting their own repairs or seeking assistance from third party repair services. It has aggressively fought "right to repair" legislation and sued people for offering non-Apple approved modifications.
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are the most obvious violators in this list. Every gaming console since the inception of gaming consoles has featured "void if removed" stickers. And every gaming console was put on the market several years after the law was passed.
As Motherboard's Matthew Gault points out, the letters [PDF] are mostly boilerplate. The only differences are callouts of manufacturer-specific language that violates the 1975 law. But they do show the FTC may finally -- years after the fact -- do something about bogus warranty restrictions.
This letter places you on notice that violations of the Warranty and FTC Acts may result in legal action. FTC investigators have copied and preserved the online pages in question, and we plan to review your company's written warranty and promotional materials after 30 days. You should review the Warranty and FTC Act and if necessary, revise your practices to comply with the Acts' requirements. By sending this letter, we do not waive the FTC's right to take law enforcement action and seek appropriate injunctive and monetary remedies against [manufacturer name] based on past or future violations.
Maybe these stickers will finally disappear, if nothing else. The law has only been used to punish a manufacturer once in its 40-year existence. Perhaps another FTC announcement -- hopefully containing some sort of enforcement action -- will come our way later this month after the agency completes its 30-day review.
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Maybe, sometime soon, possibly, if we feel like it
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Not a lawyer, but it seems to me that this law, as described, implies a "right to repair" and makes the passage of such laws unnecessary. Is there any reason why this is not the case?
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Re: Right to repair
As stated in the article, the law requires manufacturers to demonstrate that the unauthorized repair voided the warranty. Under that scheme, the manufacturer is not obligated to make unauthorized repairs easy. Consider the weirdly nonstandard screws that were popular as a way to make it hard to open the device, or how the software for certain tractors only boots and runs properly on "approved" hardware.
"Right to repair" laws typically go a step further and impose:
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That said, we may have the reason the FTC woke up - the Right to Repair law debate filtered through and they went digging and realized we had a law/the law already prohibits the behavior.
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According to Wikipedia: Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act: Definitions used, the act is not limited to electronic devices. It's about "consumer products", "generally any tangible personal property for sale."
That sounds like it would include software.
So if a DRM scheme bogs down a game with two million triggers in thirty minutes of gameplay, NOW are you legally entitled to fix it?
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No, that's not tangible.
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The stickers will remain, just a minor change in wording....
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"warranty may be voided if removed"
can be shortened to
"May void warranty if removed"
And I'm sure if you spend some time, you can find shorter ways to express the idea.
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Ifixit is holding a scavenger hunt, and encouraging people to remove illegal stickers and send in pictures of it.
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Surprised ANY agency under Trump would do this
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Just like Trump & Ivanca's products are all made in "shithole countries. Ivanca is paying her Chinese workers $62 a week. If it is like most of China's virtual slave labor camps they are charged to stay in a crowded dorm room & meals.
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(For an example closer to home: compare pay and cost of living in the Bay Area with that in say, Kansas City or even Chicago)
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Not really, because you'd be trapped in one area. You'd never be able to get enough money to move or travel. Your example has at most $20/week of savings, assuming all utilities are included with rent, travel and medical costs are nil, and every meal is rice. You'd probably never be able to retire or have dependents either, or get an education.
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Dear old geezer... law and regulation are one and the same in this context.
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Whaaa?
The question is why are laws that are good for the consumer ignored and it’s violators not punished. Reminds me of federal marijuana laws being violated on the state level. All so sloppy...legal enforcement cherrypicking.
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/10/iphone-8-ios-113-breaks-smartphones-third -party-repaired-screens-apple
now...shut it
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"Our system has detected that the product has been modified without our authorization. We have decided to disable it. Please refer to our nearest officisl repair hop.
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