Canada Rejects A Free Press: Supreme Court Says Journalist Must Hand Over Sources
from the shameful dept
In a very unfortunate bit of news, the Canadian Supreme Court on Friday ruled that there is no source protection for journalists in Canada, and a Vice Media reporter, Ben Makuch, is required to hand over his sources from an investigation he did with a Canadian man who claimed to have joined ISIS. Makuch had interviewed Farad Mohamed Shirdon back in 2015, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) demanded access to all of his information. Vice and Makuch refused. In 2016, a lower court ruled against Vice and on appeal, the media organization lost again. Given those two loses, perhaps the eventual Supreme Court ruling isn't that surprising, but it is still extremely disappointing and worrisome.
As Vice noted in an editorial posted after the ruling, this is a dark day for press freedom:
Lawyers for VICE Canada argued unsuccessfully through three levels of court that the RCMP is fishing for information and is effectively forcing a journalist to be an agent of the state. With this court decision hanging in the balance for years, Makuch has continued to produce fearless and important journalism on sensitive and often dangerous topics. Today’s decision will no doubt have a chilling effect on both sources, who may be reluctant to talk to reporters, and on journalists themselves, who could be less inclined to report on sensitive issues.
While our lawyers lost, we strongly believe that the journalism—which is already under attack across the globe—needs to be free from state intervention.
To some extent, we've dealt with this issue in the US as well, where some believe the 1st Amendment should already protect reporters and media orgs from giving up information on sources, but where the government still has gone to court -- such as in the case of James Risen -- to try to force journalists to reveal sources.
And while there have been some attempts at creating so-called "shield laws" against these sorts of things, unfortunately, nearly every attempt to do so would require the government to define who counts as a journalist, which would also be a huge 1st Amendment problem. (And, of course, over in Europe there's an issue where Romania has been trying to use the GDPR to force a reporter to cough up sources).
I know that some people don't think this is that big of a deal, but it is a huge deal if you want journalists to be free to investigate and report on things like government corruption and abuse. To do that, journalists rely on sources providing them information -- and to get sources to provide you information, journalists frequently need to guarantee them anonymity for fairly obvious reasons. But when governments can force away that anonymity, it creates a huge mess. Sources will be much less willing to come forward, as they know that even if a journalist promises protection, they can't guarantee it against a demand from the government. This will lead to significantly less whistleblowing, especially in important cases.
As Vice says:
It should go without saying: we are all better off when journalism operates freely, without interference from the state. Otherwise, leaders remain unchecked, massive corporations undermine elections, and the stories of the most vulnerable members of society remain untold. This might seem like hyperbole, but a quick glance at the recent headlines in any major publication should serve as proof that these things are happening.
It's too bad that Canada has decided to flush that kind of openness away.
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This is one of the few instances where contempt of court (via not revealing the source) is not only justified, but downright obligatory.
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UK serfs have no Rights, only the illusion.
And yet some are here every day telling us how horrible the US of A is and that our guns should be confiscated so that can't defend ourselves from tyrannicla gov't, nor from unlimited immigrants. In other words, we should commit suicide way Europe is doing.
Ask your globalist hero Macron how that whole down with nationalism and up with carbon taxes plan is working out recent.
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A rebuttal, of equal merit as the argument presented:
Across the U. S. A
Then everybody'd be surfin'
Like Californi-a
You'd see them wearing their baggies
Huarachi sandals too
A bushy bushy blonde hairdo
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You'd catch 'em surfin' at Del Mar
(Inside, outside, USA)
Ventura County line
(Inside, outside, USA)
Santa Cruz and Trestles
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Australia's Narrabeen
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All over Manhattan
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And down Doheny Way
(Inside, outside)
Everybody's gone surfin'
Surfin' U.S.A
We'll all be planning that route
We're gonna take real soon
We're waxing down our surfboards
We can't wait for June
We'll all be gone for the summer
We're on surfari to stay
Tell the teacher we're surfin'
Surfin' U. S. A
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Re: The bravado of a true keyboard commando, "Stephen"!
They'll cave, like everyone.
The tyranny of inherited tyrants can only be resisted by the power of common law. Otherwise the loyal royalists will help crush you -- and receive "honors" for it.
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Re: UK serfs have no Rights, only the illusion.
Sheesh.
Techdirt fanboys of late seem resolved to destroy the site far faster than I could ever even hope! I am in awe of your "depth".
Aside to Masnick: remember when I boasted that you'd rather have one of me than a hundred of these? Still even pretend to disagree?
Don't bother changing cosmetics, just shut the site down. It's now your only rational choice.
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:D D:
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If it were, I would have the courage to risk my freedom for my principles. Maybe I would crack sooner or later, but I would at least have the courage to put myself in that position.
…fucking what
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You know. Common law. That thing you're not doing that would fix everything. If only you hadn't rejected it.
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Re: Re: UK serfs have no Rights, only the illusion.
That seems like a rather extreme measure just to get rid of you.
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As it is, we've already missed the 200-year anniversary of when we burnt down the White House the last time, and it just wouldn't be as fun to do it in an off-year.
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So…watching Black Mirror?
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There's another solution to the situation, the same solution that the software industry's "responsible disclosure" farce encourages for handling bugs and vulnerabilities. Instead of sources talking to reporters privately and reporters filtering the information to avoid disclosure of anything not truly needed, sources contact reporters anonymously and mass-dump all the original materials through a service like Wikileaks that allows for large-scale duplication making it all but impossible to shove the documents back in the safe. Then reporters don't need to vet the source, they can vet the original documents and report based on that. If the reporter never knows who provided the information, they can't reveal more than that they don't know the source's identity. The government can go chase the original documents and the original source, but the material's still out there regardless so they won't accomplish their goal. Sources of course need to make sure they're untraceable when uploading the information, but that's what they're having to do already so no major change there.
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Re: Re: The bravado of a true keyboard commando, "Stephen"!
The tyranny of inherited tyrants can only be resisted by the power of common law
Code word for "Make things up!" Common law is - last I checked - the law derived from judicial rulings and legal precedent.
In this context, I believe he means "Screw on your tinfoil hat and misquote the constitution!" Of Canada. Or ramble on about some sort of natural law that predates Canadian law?
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A response as rational as S. O. Wright's
In an octopus' garden in the shade
He'd let us in, knows where we've been
In his octopus' garden in the shade
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Re: Re: Blues balls
Still pretend that’s not the case?
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A response as rational as S. O. Wright's
Not a soul in sight:
The city's lookin' like a ghost town
On a moonless summer night.
Raindrops on the windshield,
There's a storm rollin' in;
He's headed back from somewhere
That he never should have been.
And the thunder rolls.
And the thunder rolls.
Every light is burning
In a house across town.
She's pacin' by the telephone
In her faded flannel gown,
Askin' for a miracle,
Hopin' she's not right:
Prayin' it's the weather
That's kept him out all night.
And the thunder rolls.
And the thunder rolls.
The thunder rolls,
And the lightnin' strikes.
Another love grows cold,
On a sleepless night.
As the storm blows on
Out of control,
Deep in her heart,
The thunder rolls.
She's waitin' by the window
As he pulls into the drive.
She rushes out to hold him,
Thankful he's alive.
In all the wind and the rain,
A strange new perfume blows;
The lightning flashes in her eyes,
And he knows that she knows.
And the thunder rolls.
And the thunder rolls.
The thunder rolls,
And the lightnin' strikes.
Another love grows cold, darlin',
On a sleepless night.
As the storm blows on
Out of control,
Deep in her heart,
The thunder rolls.
She runs back down the hallway,
And through the bedroom door.
She reaches for the pistol
Kept in the dresser drawer.
Tells the lady in the mirror
He won't do this again,
'Cause tonight will be the last night
She'll wonder where he's been
The thunder rolls,
And the lightnin' strikes.
Another love grows cold, darlin',
On a sleepless night.
As the storm blows on
Out of control,
Deep in her heart,
The thunder rolls.
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Because I was not a journalist........ "
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'Chilling effects'? Funny way to say 'working as intended'
Otherwise, leaders remain unchecked, massive corporations undermine elections, and the stories of the most vulnerable members of society remain untold.
Or as corrupt governments and corporations would say, 'That's a feature, not a bug.'
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Re: Re: Re: The bravado of a true keyboard commando, "Stephen"!
Yeah, you didn't check the right place. He's one of those who doesn't know how language works. Only his definition of "common law" is the correct definition, and he refuses to tell us what that definition is.
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As I Canadian citizenm I'm soooo embarrassed.
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Non-compliance?
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Domain is available
americashat.ca is available.
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Close, but not quite
First - there is no "disclosing" of journalistic sources. The series that was published gave the source, so there's no secret. The stories were based on recorded interviews conducted by Makuch by NAMED SOURCES. There's no secret there to be protected. What the government wanted was access to the recordings themselves to see what else was in there.
Essentially, the court said "You've already told us who your sources are, so there's no secret to be kept. You've already reported based on the disclosed interviews, so there's no secret to be kept there, either"
Do I think it's bad form, on general principals? Yes, absolutely. But it's not what it's been made out to be, and will have exactly zero effect on any similar case where the identity of the sources are secret.
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Re: Close, but not quite
And if the recordings contained information that the source didn't want public, to the point that they wouldn't have agreed to the interview had they known the resulting recordings would be poured over?
Or if not this time, what about future instances, where a source will have to be very careful what they say, and/or be explicitly clear when they want something 'off the record', carefully making sure that there are no recordings running?
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Oh wait.
You can't.
Sucks to be you, blue boy!
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Which begs the question if RCMP was asking for his identity, would the court have decided the same? Is there jurisprudence on that in Canada?
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Two minor points affect this case this time:
The guy appears to be dead, though that's not yet proven.
The reporter, from a far-right propaganda outlet, is simply
trying to make a martyr of himself against Canada; but it
remains to be seen if he will go through with contempt or
just take the publicity he's already generated and pin a
medal on himself. ; ]
I heard that the Supreme Court was applying a set of safeguards
that this reporter failed to meet. Does anybody see that list?
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In case anyone else misunderstood you like I did: I think you're saying that committing contempt of court is justified. I thought at first you were saying the charge of contempt of court is justified.
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Second - you'll note that already said it was bad form and didn't like it.
Third - my criticism of the case was in it's characterization. There was no forced disclosure of secret sources, because they were ALREADY KNOWN.
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The Court mentioned both points I listed in their discussion
of the safeguards they apparently were thinking about.
Presumably, if the guy hadn't run off to be a "jihadi"
and was still alive today, that test of theirs may have
weighed more favourably to the appeal, so both points
are, in fact, central to the case as THEY saw it.
"Second - you'll note that already said it was bad form and didn't like it.
Third - my criticism of the case was in it's characterization. There was no forced disclosure of secret sources, because they were ALREADY KNOWN."
I don't care, and neither does the Court. Canada already has
precedent for press freedom but is also free of the absolute
constraint that Mike takes for granted. We didn't flush away
that which we never had in the first place. The judges were
free to deal with the facts of the case without being forced
either way, and were still careful to consider the costs.
It does seem unlikely that this exact situation will arise
again, so there is little to no threat to press freedoms.
That reporter was just looking for publicity and now his
employer has a fat bill to pay for their failed experiment.
That's no threat to press freedoms either, but one hopes it
may at least slightly deter courtroom experimentation without
first getting some good advice. ; ]
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Ah, right! Sometimes that catches me when it's late…
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Re: Ah, right! Sometimes that catches me when it's late…
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Once is a critique…
I don't think this rates a proper lynching unless he
doubles down on the Canada-bashing. ; ]
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