Philippines Lawmaker Introduces 'Fake News' Bill That Would Allow The National Police To Literally Police Speech
from the all-hail-the-internet-police-state dept
Fake news laws are so hot right now. Any government with an authoritarian bent is getting in on the action, stepping up domestic surveillance while trampling remaining speech protections -- all in the name of "protecting" people from a concept they can't clearly define.
It's not just the places you expect. Sure, we may like to think this sort of opportunistic lawmaking may be relegated to places like Vietnam and Singapore, where governments have continually expressed their interest in deterring criticism of governments and kings and their shitty laws. But even our own President spends a great deal of time talking about "fake news" and the need to prevent journalists from criticizing the guy sitting in the Oval Office. And France's government is looking at adding this to its long list of speech restrictions, even if only at "election time."
The latest country to add a speech-squashing, government-expanding "fake news" bill to its roster of bad ideas is the Philippines. The proposal doesn't use the terminology du jour, but "fake news" by any other name is still "fake news." Here's the immediate effect the "Anti-False Content Act" would have on the country's population.
Introduced by Senator Vicente Sotto III, the bill strikes at the heart of Internet freedom, regulating if not outright policing the content of cyberspace in the Philippines. It mandates stiff prison terms and fines ranging from PHP 200,000 to PHP 2,000,000 against individuals who “create and/or publish” false and misleading content in social media sites, blogs and websites, as well as the “intermediaries” or platforms which carry the content, such as Facebook and Twitter.
Citizens are welcome to report "false content" to the government, which adds this to the tool chests of hecklers seeking a veto or online brigades wanting to put the color of law behind their deplatforming efforts. It's "see something, say something" for the internet, which is going to turn out to be just as useless as any other iteration of "report your friends and neighbors" programs.
If citizens don't step up, the government can initiate the complaint process itself. The three agencies authorized to do this are the Department of Justice, the National Bureau of Investigation, and the National Police. Not scary at all. If any of these entities think the public needs protecting, it can start hunting down "false content" purveyors and extracting fines from social media companies. The law affects everyone, not just users of major social media platforms. Individual blogs can be targeted, as can the nation's news agencies.
Rather than allow more speech to act as a corrective measure, legislators want to limit speech further, ensuring the only speech remaining will be government-approved. This is bad enough, but the agencies allowed to make these judgment calls on questionable posts/publications are among the worst to be entrusted with the literal policing of speech.
The harm that false information can inflict is undeniable. But there is far greater harm in authorizing government agencies to decide what is fake or factual news, false or accurate conclusions, correct or mistaken findings. Assigning agencies who deal with criminality and violations of law guarantees a most limited scope for the arbitration of truth.
If passed, another government will have succeeded in converting buzzwords to authoritarian power moves. The world needs less of this, but it's the rarest of governments that can see an opportunity to expand its power without acting on it.
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FAKE NEWS: "Trump-Russia collusion"! -- No? Okay, STATE 3 facts,
proven or at least provable in court specifically linking Trump and Russia, kids. -- NOT dragging in any other topic to make yourselves appear less than utter fools for believing that.
State 3 facts with WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, and WHO.
You CAN'T because was ALL FAKE from start.
-s-u-b-s-t-i-t-u-t-e -h-o-r-i-z-o-n-t-a-l -r-u-l-e
What a lame week! DULL topics. -- And where's the Podcast again?
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Re: NEWS: Blue Balls still a wanker
What a lame week! DULL topics
Please point us to your super-excellent blog with the real news, ripped right form the headlines at InfoWars?
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Re: FAKE NEWS: "Trump-Russia collusion"! -- No? Okay,
Forgot to point out that YOU kids believing the FAKE NEWS that Deep State / globalists fabricate is what causes these laws.
Have a little skepticism. WAIT for SPECIFIC FACTS not just broad assertions. Sheesh.
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Re: FAKE NEWS: "Trump-Russia collusion"! -- No? Okay, STATE 3 fa
Yep - "No collusion" is definitely fake news all right. That's why you never find any fact-oriented source making such claims.
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Trump just shot his wad in his pants thinking about this.
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Don’t you ever get tired of being an asshole?
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It leads to a failure of government as their propaganda departs further and further from reality.
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No more than a fish gets tired of swimming, or a bird gets tired of being able to fly I imagine.
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'Just don't question your betters and you'll be fine... maybe'
Hefty fines and/or jail time for publishing or hosting whatever the government considers to be 'false', talk about a dictator's best friend.
Well, no matter, I'm sure the kind of government that would make saying the 'wrong thing' illegal would never use that power to chill speech and punish those that say unflattering things about the powerful, like say exposing corruption and/or lies...
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What everyone here seems to not quiet understand yet is that the days of Drama being used to advance a political or legal argument are OVER.
The whole Russian Collusion thing was a political drama, and Hillary Clinton credits herself (did you read her book) with the inspiration for this drama. It was on the Fake News media pretty much 24/7, but now that series is finished.
The TRUTH is that Trump replaced Drama with Reality TV. He is the #1 Reality TV star of all time. And people are sick of Drama, Climate Change, Black Lives Matter, and the plight of Illegal aliens when cast as victims (among others).
The time of Drama TV and Drama based Politics are OVER!
We all can tell the difference between Drama and Reality.
Well, enough of us can tell the difference to vote Trump President again.
Did you see Chelsea Gabbard? A Democratic candidate with no drama and great presence. I think good things are in for her ahead. Especially now that the media is labeling her a Russian Agent. HAHAHA.
Drama is SO over.
Get over it kids, it's really out of fashion.
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Do you remember the strategy that we all learned as children - that if you cheat, and win, or change the rules, and win, you’re not a winner, not really. That there is something noble about playing by the rules, and even if no one thinks you will win, even if you are not sure you will win, when you do win, you really won.
Anyone remember the merits of playing by the rules, without drama, or focusing on changing the game? Fair Play?
Anyone remember Fair Play?
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Fake Kamala Harris
Speaking of fake news, don’t you think that Kamal Harris is a piece of shit? She sent so many people to prison for smoking dope, and the laughs about smoking dope herself. Wow. Hypocrisy much? She laughs right on video with that guy that looks like his ears have been chewed off by a Pitbull, what’s his name? Funny looking guy, I saw him on CNN. She was laughing about how she was stoned while she put people in prison for the same thing. Wow.
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*checks previous Philippines stories on Techdirt*
Let's see...
Targeted prosecution of a journalist, Maria Ressa...
Attempting shutting-down of a news site, and attempting to amend the Philippines constitution to remove free speech...
Censoring websites accused (not convicted) of file-sharing...
Huh, nothing about the horrifically violent drug war and assassinations of public officials? Weird.
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Huh, nothing about the horrifically violent drug war and assassinations of public officials? Weird.
So several articles about free speech, censorship, the press. Wow, kinda sounds on target.
Please link to your much better blog with the real stories you think are more important?
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Re: 'Just don't question your betters and you'll be fine... mayb
Excuse me, but what the fuck are you trying to say? Are you expecting people to read between your lines, to add random negations and interpretations and inferences in order to bolster a certain view that you might hold but are too shy to express? What the fuck are you trying to say. Use your words, idiot, be direct.
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Defensive much? Misdirect much? Feeling a little insecure, “Gary”?
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…says the Anonymous Coward.
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Re: Re: 'Just don't question your betters and you'll be fine...
It's not That One Guy's fault you never learned reading comprehension.
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[Asserts facts not in evidence]
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Defensive much? Misdirect much?
I don't think you know what misdirect means. I was commenting on how the post was off topic. Which is in itself misdirection.
The AC army, Blue Balls and Hamilton love to jump in and make their poorly worked attacks on free speech but rarely have anything to say other than "TD is doing it wrong." But never can step up and show citations, show us was their (unmoderated!) blog looks like, or how this all would work if their wonderful ideas were taken seriously.
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Yes, you’re right: now is the time for the politics of Donald Trump, who gives his voter base a set of Repugnant Cultural Others on whom they can blame all their problems while they ignore what he does to the country and the cultural norms of its politics. Now is the time of the presidential behavior of Donald Trump, who uses “infested” and variants thereof to describe places within the United States that are largely populated by people of color (including immigrants, legal or not), thus implying that people of color are pests that need to be exterminated. Yes, now is the time of Donald J. Trump, the man who encourages violent action through the tactics of stochastic terrorism then washes his hands of any actual violence when it inevitably occurs, the man who refuses to outright denounce White supremacy because he knows White supremacists vote for him, the man who treats politics like a reality TV show and allows people to die in concentration camps because he thinks it’ll give him bigger ratings.
You’re right, AC: This is the time for the politics of fear, of hatred, of insults and degradation and paranoia and trying to stop the march of progress towards a better society for everyone. This is the time for Donald Trump and the Republican Party. Enjoy it while it lasts, for everything that has a beginning also has an end. And when their time comes to an end, society will be all the better for it.
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Re: Re: Re: 'Just don't question your betters and you'll be fine
Yeah, blame the reader. You can’t write worth a fuck either, asshole. You write like a dipshit that flunked out of law school. Ring a bell?
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You understand the congressman in question, Elija Cummings, used EXACTLY the SAME WORD to describe the SAME PLACE 20 years on in the Senate, ON THE RECORD. You know that, right, idiot boy?
Tell us about the society you want, Stephen. We all want to know. Spell it out. Elucidate.
You won’t and you can’t because you are nothing but a shit smearing asshole with nothing to say.
MAGA - That’s the idea I support.
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Can you blame any of them?
They just watched America's Elite try to do a Russian strawman argument against the entire country for three years, and it all end up being a proven hoax. Now they get to watch Google attack the best candidate for being too popular, and the media defend Google like they are just a bad dog and that happens sometimes. If I was any other country, I'd be worried sick.
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Re: Can you blame any of them?
There often is a hidden genius behind the wild swings of opinions, conspiracy theories, cultural norms and new standards. America. What a show. What an incredible 200+year reality TV show. Love it leave it. Fighting about it is OK. Sometimes I look at history and I scale back my level of disbelief about current events. Maybe I just wan’t paying attention before, it was easier to “tune out”. Hard to tune out these days. It’s been crazy a long time, unlikely to stop soon.
What about that Gabbard lady though? She’s kind of hot, showing a little chest, she was a marine or something, right? Hot body, steady stare, no shake in her voice, wow, she kind of gets me going. What do you think?
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Re: Re: Can you blame any of them?
You know how a lady looks at you when she’s telling you OK I KNOW you want to FUCK ME, she looks with a little smile and subtle assertion of power over you that she knows and you know and she knows you know she knows? You know?
That’s that Gabbard lady - when she miles at me, like on UTube, I am SURE she knows what I’m thinking, just LOOK AT HER! She knows.
I might abandon Donald for her. Really. I want to believe her. You know what I mean? Just talk, Chelsea (is that her name?), and look me straight in the eye and give me that little sexy smirk. Wow!
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…you support the idea that America is currently a shithole and needs to be made “great again”? Because, hey, concentration camps on American soil kinda prove that point true.
You don’t. But I’ll say it anyway.
I want a society where everyone — regardless of biological sex, gender identity, ethnicity/race, age, sexual orientation, disability status, or religious creed — can feel welcome in it if they don’t act like an asshole. I want a society where healthcare is a right and gun ownership is a privilege, rather than the other way around. I want a society where “Nazis suck” is not a controversial statement, White supremacists/nationalists are treated with the scorn and derision they deserve, and those who defend such assholes are made to feel unwelcome in a pluralistic, diverse, multicultural society.
I want the society Republicans are trying to prevent by stoking fears and encouraging paranoia until it boils over into violence. If you don’t think they’re doing that, ask Heather Heyer who the White supremacists in Charlottesville aligned their politics with.
Oh, right — you can’t. Because they killed her.
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Dude, she’s not going to fuck you unless you rape her, in which case you’d be more like Trump than you’d care to admit.
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Now now, don’t be so hard on yourself just to insult him.
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Oh wait, I have to wipe the tears from my eyes. Your drama has finally won me over to your view. Not.
You don't like America, get the fuck out of America. You have failed to assimilate. We don't want you either. The idea that every maladjusted sexually confused and perverted uneducated rude idiot should tell the rest of us hard working law abiding police supporting respectful Americans what to do or think is well... Crazy.
Get over yourself. Adjust or go. We don't care about your sexually perverted angry stupid world view - go fuck yourself. You should be good at that. Now I want to go fuck my young wife. (Sweet)
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I KNOW she's not going to fuck me, I'm not going to fuck her either, I have a GORGOUS young wife to fuck. But that doesn't mean I don't think about it. And she KNOWS I think about it! And I know she knows I know, oh, it's all very REAL! Get it?
REAL! REAL! I am talking about something real! Get a candidate that men want to fuck! It will work. Hillary was a loser and a double loser with her belly hanging down around her knees, yuck! Men will vote for a lady that want to fuck, the same way ladies wanted to fuck that nigger Obama! Why do you think he got elected? Ladies (and gay boys and trans) thought he was HOT! (never did it for me, but of course, all those niggers look pretty much alike to me) They all wanted to FUCK HIM so they VOTED FOR HIM. Obvious from the word go. You think anybody wants to fuck that Budigeg guy? Not many, that's for sure - his fuck quotient is almost zero.
When are you guys going to get REAL? TELL ME SOMETHING REAL!
I share with you, you should share with me. Try it, it's fun!
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What makes queer people unworthy of living in “your America”, then?
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I wouldn’t share my dick with you if you paid me.
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geez, you go on about 'sexually perverted' and then implicate yourself in something that sounds a lot like pedophilia, if I believed you had a wife with such a repugnant fucknugget of a personality.
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oh god you're still here
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You misunderstand who Trump wants to make America great for, it is the 1%, and the rest of you can work for a minimum wage to increase their wealth.
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Re: Can you blame any of them?
In the meantime - uh...what?
The only thing that saved Donald Trump from definitely having done the things we all expected him to do was his own incompetence and the incompetence and disobedience of those around him. John Oliver did an entire segment on it.
What the fuck do you think Google is doing, exactly?
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It sounds to me like America is not the place you want it to be, it is something different. And because you hate that then by definition you hate America. Maybe you're the "shit smearing asshole" who needs to "get the fuck out", you America hater.
Your whole life is fake news.
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Please tell me your name so you can officially be "the biggest piece of shit I know".
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MAGA - That’s the idea I support.
Make America White Again? The South shall raise? The KKK is fine people?
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Re: Can you blame any of them?
end up being a proven hoax
Zof, what kind of hoax sees so many of Trump's associates lie about their connections with Russia, go to jail for working with Russia, and shows again and again that Cadet Bone Spurs lies more often than not?
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Re: Can you blame any of them?
[Asserts facts not in evidence]
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Charles Carreon?
Jason Van Dyke?
Richard Liebowitz?
Paul Berger?
David Blade III?
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Re: Re: FAKE NEWS: "Trump-Russia collusion"! -- No? Ok
“Have a little skepticism”
I do.
It’s how I know your chances of getting a transfer from internet troll to an actual combat arm in any part of Russian military after you flunked out for whatever reason are Almost nothing unless you have some connections lol
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Re: Can you blame any of them?
So, Zof, tell us -
What happened to flight MH17?
Was what happened to the Skripals a Russian nerve agent assassination attempt?
Your answers may be illuminating.
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Re: FAKE NEWS: "Trump-Russia collusion"! -- No? Okay, STATE 3 fa
Off-topic, I do believe. Old bluebottle seems to go off at a tangent at the drop of a hat these days, usually citing copyright problems being behind most of the world's worries. There are more important things to give attention to - like a little thing called "Global Warming", for instance, that old Sky-Blue (like Trump) probably pretends doesn't exist.
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Swirling round the drain
Oh this will have Trumpus and his proud-boy crew salivating. Lindsey Graham is probably plagiarizing the Philippine legislation as I write.
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Klarg is right. Just give it a few years, after Blump regains power in 2020/2021, and the Philippine statute will be the model for one right here in Neue Amerika. Blump, McYertle, sweet Lindsey and all the rest of the Fascists are foaming to get this into effect here. Putin will be a happy boy! And don't you worry, Blump WILL regain power next year. 1) The Dumbocrats are too incompetent to mount any meaningful opposition. 2) The Amerikan voters ARE stupid enough to actually elect him, and/or 3) Failing all else, Blump will take it by force, with the flailing, burbling support of his idiot backers. Basically, as a country, we are fucked.
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I have no idea who you’re trying to parody, but you’re doing a shit job of it regardless.
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Well, I don't have a blog, but I went googling:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/drug-war-killings-in-the-philippines-could-be-a-crime-against-hum anity-20190708-p52582.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/philippine-authorities-contradict-toll-figure-drugs-war-1907 18070849564.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/08/amnesty-identifies-new-killing-field-inphilippines-drug s-war/
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/11th-mayor-killed-in-philippines-as-dutertes-drug-war-rages-on-2 018-9?r=US&IR=T
Techdirt posts about police brutality and the War on Drugs a lot (actually, it looks like Tim Cushing does most-if-not-all of the posts on the subject), so I was actually kind of surprised that the violence in the Philippines wasn't covered.
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Re: Health
Oh Please.
Do Gab On.
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Re: *checks previous Philippines stories on Techdirt*
Not really weird at all, TD's primary focus is on the US, and while it occasionally talks about the USG's disastrous attitude towards drug use(usually by police screwing up yet again) it's not really the focus, and as for assassination of public officials that's really not in TD's purview, even if it is rather notable.
That said if you think they would be interested in something there's always the 'Submit a Story' link at the bottom of the page, where you can point them to a story for them to consider covering.
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You can live here. Just keep your opinions about sex to yourself. It’s called manners. Polite Society. Assimilation.
No one cares who you want to fuck, Stephen. No one cares who I want to fuck. No one cares how you feel about who you want to fuck. No one cares about any of it, Stephen, who you fuck is a footnote. It’s a private thing.
What makes you worthy is what you contribute to society. Whether you do your best to make people feel better or waste your time trying to make people feel worse. Whether you lift people up or whether you condemn and blame them for your inability to manage your own emotions.
Nobody gives a fuck about you childish assholes that go on and out about the weather. No one cares about whether you like Trump or not. I don’t even like him, not that much, actually. He’s just THE ONLY ONE that is ANYWHERE CLOSE to being HONEST.
Quit being a victim. Or as an alternative, Make your own victim country, that would be good. The United VIctims of Queensland, go there and worthship victims, vote for victims, let victims make all the important decisions. Create a cohesive society of victims.
Or stay here and fit in. We Americans are very patient. Up to you.
Until we’re not. Then we speak our mind. As a group. WIth our guns and our bibles and our flags.
MAGA
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Are we surprised this happens in the Phillipines?
Where lest we forget, the president is a homophobic, child-molesting serial killing drug kingpin in charge of the second largest cocaine smuggling operation on earth (Next to J P Morgan Bank).
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However, social media sites in USA and Europe cannot be forced, by the Phillipine government, to hand over information.
Since facebook, for example, is in the United States, it only has to obey United States laws.
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Only if they don't have any assets or employers in there. And there is still site-blocking if a government gets annoyed.
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Re: Shiva still lost
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Still fixed on shit are you hamilton? Why don’t you just come out of the closet?
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“Now I want to go fuck my young wife.”
Let me guess, she’s Canadian eh?
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“Feeling a little insecure”
Can I come to your house to watch movies? You must have a projector bigger than an IMAX screen there.
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Re: Zof is a liar
Don’t be like zof.
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Hamilton, the only pussy you’ve ever been able to get, you had to pay for.
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Site blocking can circumvented with proxy, tor, or VPN
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Maybe in some world, rose-tinted and traditional, that sort of belief was the norm. Maybe you could have simply followed orders, did as you were told, and played openly and fairly, and be rewarded justly.
But fast forward to today, the landscape has changed. The rules are always changing. The competition is even fiercer. There's a constant call for disruption. It's not called "cheating", it's "thinking out of the box". It's not being "unfairly advantaged", it's called "using every means at your disposal".
Really, the only time we "punish" people who fail to play by the rules is when they get caught - and how often does that happen, given the rules of what constitutes "cheating" are a far cry from what they were decades ago?
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That's a thing that's always bugged me about hyperbole like "policing speech" -- there's a pretty important difference between someone asking you not to say certain things and someone with a badge, a gun, and government-granted power to use force telling you not to say them.
This, as the headline notes, is what policing speech actually looks like.
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Come on. Don't stop there. I came here looking for a fight, but only as a spectator. I need to be entertained!
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Really? You got to talk about his wad in his pants? Yuuuck.
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Your'ee a fucking nutjob who needs a vist from your local le.
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Re: Re: Can you blame any of them?
Who sold 20% of this nation's yellowcake production to enemies and can't be prosecuted for it? Fucking insane.
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isnot fb actually in ireland avoiding taxes?
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Which is a hell of a crying shame. Last I checked, no Internet troll has ever perished in the line of duty.
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Troll accounts, on the other hand...
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I don’t even like him, not that much, actually
...Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.
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Is it the same buffoon that re-legalized asbestos?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/russian-asbestos-trump_face/
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Re: FAKE NEWS: "Trump-Russia collusion"! -- No? Okay,
The Mueller report answers all 3 of those questions.
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The Last Word
“MAGA - That’s the idea I support.
Make America White Again? The South shall raise? The KKK is fine people?