Filecoin Foundation Donates $10 Million Worth Of Filecoin To Internet Archive

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Some really fantastic news if you believe in (1) the wonderful work the Internet Archive does and (2) the future of a more decentralized internet (and, for what it's worth, you should believe in both of those things). The Filecoin Foundation has donated 50,000 FIL to the Internet Archive. This is approximately $10 million worth of Filecoin, which represents the largest single donation to the organization. Obviously, by the amount alone, this is a big deal and hugely important for an Internet Archive that is currently facing an existential legal attack by publishers who hate the very idea of libraries.

But it's doubly interesting, because Filecoin is a key component that many are hoping will empower a new more distributed web. And it appears that the Internet Archive is looking to take advantage of this aspect as well (as it should):

“Holy Crow! This is a big deal,” said Brewster Kahle, the Internet Archive’s founder. “And what are we going to do with it? We’re going to invest it in making the Internet Archive more decentralized, so that our digital history is available from thousands of computers, not just a few. The idea is to make a robust and private Internet that has a history that will persist over decades and maybe centuries.”

This is amazing news and exciting for both the future of the Internet Archive and a more distributed internet, not under the control of any single big internet giant.

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  • identicon
    Autrach Sejanoz, 8 Apr 2021 @ 4:20pm

    So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complete BS.

    If you can't buy groceries with it, IT IS NOT A VALID FORM OF MONEY. I really don't see how people get suckered into this scam.

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    • icon
      Mike Masnick (profile), 8 Apr 2021 @ 4:44pm

      Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complete BS

      I have news for you about fungibility and exchanges and you might want to sit down...

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      • identicon
        Autrach Sejanoz, 8 Apr 2021 @ 6:30pm

        Re: Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complet

        I'm listening, Mr. Masnick.

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        • icon
          Stephen T. Stone (profile), 8 Apr 2021 @ 6:37pm

          No you’re not.

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          • identicon
            Anonymous Coward, 8 Apr 2021 @ 8:44pm

            Re:

            Maybe they're not, but if Mike actually has news about such things, I'd like to see it. This is kind of a news site, after all, and news about cryptocurrency exchanges is often interesting.

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            Anonymous Coward, 8 Apr 2021 @ 9:25pm

            Re:

            maybe he can't hear over your idiot noise, stevie

            anybody at alldisagree TD leaps to attack,, smart move

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            • identicon
              Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2021 @ 11:15pm

              Re: Re:

              darryl, is that you? How's them solar panels in Australia doing?

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 8 Apr 2021 @ 4:54pm

      Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complete BS

      They've definitely got something, which may or may not turn out to be as useful as 10 million American dollars in the end. (Remember that American dollars have not, themselves, had any "real" value since 1971; and of course gold is treated as much more valuable that can be justified with practical uses.)

      It would be prudent for them to convert to a more practical currency as soon as possible. But it might not lead to a favorable result (i.e., there's a chance they'd get more value by keeping it in Filecoin).

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2021 @ 12:00pm

        Re: Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complet

        No currency has ever had intrinsic value other than what society agrees upon, one way or another. In fact, nothing has any intrinsic "value".

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          Upstream (profile), 9 Apr 2021 @ 1:00pm

          Re: Re: Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is com

          What about pizza_and_beer (which is actually one word)?

          Seriously, I think some things like food can be said to have some intrinsic value, at least to critters that eat said food. Unless there is an infinite and effortless source of said food, which really isn't a possibility.

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          • identicon
            Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2021 @ 2:56pm

            Re: Re: Re: Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is

            Seriously, I think some things like food can be said to have some intrinsic value, at least to critters that eat said food.

            Even with infinite supply it would have value to those who believe life has value (i.e., they'd still choose to acquire it). But that's not intrinsic value, just a side-effect of our evolutionary bias in support of continued existence.

            Anyway, it's all beside the point. The US dollar has value because people believe it has value; the same is true of gold, food, filecoin, and tulip bulbs. Value is an opinion and doesn't have to be numeric in nature. Archive.org needs things such as digital storage devices, network access, real estate, and human labor. Whatever helps them acquire these things has value to them.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 8 Apr 2021 @ 5:13pm

      Re:

      You mean like how John Steele convinced people to let him sue on their behalf to enforce copyright, blue?

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      Koby (profile), 8 Apr 2021 @ 5:24pm

      Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complete BS

      I would love to for someone to gift me a one ounce gold coin. I don't care if I have to go through the extra step of exchanging it at a coin dealer first, I'll take it.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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      PaulT (profile), 8 Apr 2021 @ 11:51pm

      Re: So, they got nothing - because cryptocurrency is complete BS

      "If you can't buy groceries with it, IT IS NOT A VALID FORM OF MONEY"

      I can't buy groceries with the US Dollar where I am, so by your standard it's not a valid form of money.

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    Anonymous Coward, 8 Apr 2021 @ 7:04pm

    So how much CO2 was burned in this transaction?

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    Upstream (profile), 8 Apr 2021 @ 7:28pm

    Future of cryptocurrencies

    I am all in favor of the concept of decentralized means of exchange that cut out governments and bean-counters altogether. However, I am not yet convinced that our current crop of cryptocurrencies are the solution. I am also a late-adopter in general, and I try to avoid getting cut on the bleeding edge of any new technology.

    Bruce Schneier and Barath Raghavan have an interesting article on some of the positive features and possible pitfalls of blockchain cryptocurrencies as they stand right now.

    tl;dr
    The last line of the article:
    "We are watching a public socio-technical experiment in the making, and we will witness its success or failure in the not-too-distant future."

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2021 @ 12:02pm

      Re: Future of cryptocurrencies

      Part of the pitfall is the blockchain idiocy. Eventually it will take all the energy the universe ever had in it to keep the stupid books.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Bloof (profile), 9 Apr 2021 @ 1:09am

    Oh boy, they're now trying to tie the internet archive to an environmental catastrophe in the making so people can feel slightly better about the electricity and e-waste they're burning through gambling on crypto... Woo.

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      Mike Masnick (profile), 9 Apr 2021 @ 1:49am

      Re:

      Uh, Bloof, not all cryptocurrency uses energy intensive methods. For example... Filecoin does not.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        Bloof (profile), 9 Apr 2021 @ 3:50am

        Re: Re:

        So there's no mining involved, no computers sat churning away until they burn out in the hope of generating tokens for gamblers like every other crypto?

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        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2021 @ 12:07pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          While it does use blockchain elements, Filecoin does not operate like other cryptocurrencies. It's basically a token for storage space, à la IFS.

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          Mike Masnick (profile), 9 Apr 2021 @ 4:33pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          It does not use a proof of stake that requires computers churning away. 30 seconds on Google might help you understand this...

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