I'll add a further point. Voltage does not have the names and addresses. The Judge said that privacy would be protected, but not how. No doubt he will elaborate on that when he actually issues his rulings. It could well be that Voltage have to produce the letter for approval, but it gets sent by an escrow service. We'll know in a couple of weeks.
1) What does it matter where the 'spy ware' was developed?
2) The Australian users' accounts have not been accessed.
3) The 'commercial overseas interest' [sic.] alleges copyright infringement. They are entitled to do so.
If I write a book and you re-publish it without permission, does it matter how I find out about it? Should I not pursue you for copyright infringement.
There are certainly arguments against the tactics used by the movie copyright holders. Let's make those arguments, instead of focussing on red herrings.
"I'm quite sure there will not be any 'accidental' letters. Australia is not the US".
Why do you think they would be so stupid as to go down a path which their Australian lawyers will advise them will ensure that they will then lose this case and lead to other sanctions from the Federal Court of Australia?
Ah yes, the AFP. That body of the nation's finest, who shopped a number of Australian drug smugglers to the Indonesians, so that two of them are about to be killed.
Very few courts have taken the matter of geo-location very seriously. One that did was a French County Court against the defendant Yahoo! Inc. [1] In that case the Court heard evidence that estimated the certainty of being able to identify a browser location. Perhaps 70% of users could realistically be located with a reasonable degree of accuracy.
One example of a common glaring error was those users who used the American AOL as a service provider, where the geo-location software pinpointed them as physically being in Virginia, USA.
1. League Against Racism and Antisemitism (LICRA), French Union of Jewish Students, v Yahoo! Inc. (USA), Yahoo France, Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris (The County Court of Paris), Interim Court Order, 20 November, 2000
"I assume this right-to-be-forgotten notion is from corporations and important figures who would rather their embarrassing pasts would disappear, less so individuals who had only proximal association with some scandal who'd rather not be associated with it, yes?"
Very few courts have taken the matter of geo-location very seriously. One that did was a French County Court against the defendant Yahoo! Inc. [1] In that case the Court heard evidence that estimated the certainty of being able to identify a browser location. Perhaps 70% of users could realistically be located with a reasonable degree of accuracy.
One example of a common glaring error was those users who used the American AOL as a service provider, where the geo-location software pinpointed them as physically being in Virginia, USA.
1. League Against Racism and Antisemitism (LICRA), French Union of Jewish Students, v Yahoo! Inc. (USA), Yahoo France, Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris (The County Court of Paris), Interim Court Order, 20 November, 2000
Advocate-General of Minnesota: “Persons outside of Minnesota who transmit information via the internet knowing that information will be disseminated in Minnesota are subject to jurisdiction in Minnesota courts for violations of state criminal and civil laws”.
One person only has been charged with conspiring to commit an act of terrorism. The others have been let go, one was charged and fined for a minor weapons offence.
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On that basis, half the population should be in gaol.
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2) The Australian users' accounts have not been accessed.
3) The 'commercial overseas interest' [sic.] alleges copyright infringement. They are entitled to do so.
If I write a book and you re-publish it without permission, does it matter how I find out about it? Should I not pursue you for copyright infringement.
There are certainly arguments against the tactics used by the movie copyright holders. Let's make those arguments, instead of focussing on red herrings.
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"I'm quite sure there will not be any 'accidental' letters. Australia is not the US".
Why do you think they would be so stupid as to go down a path which their Australian lawyers will advise them will ensure that they will then lose this case and lead to other sanctions from the Federal Court of Australia?
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I'm quite sure there will not be any 'accidental' letters. Australia is not the US.
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Gotta love an honest cop. If you can find one.
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There will be children in the cars that crash ...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw1ryLGs2ws
It's so embarrassing I can hardly bring myself to watch it right through.
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Laywers (accountants, other paid advisors) give advice to companies.
Managers make decisions.
The managers run the company, not the lawyers (accountants and other paid advisors).
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Rights
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Very few courts have taken the matter of geo-location very seriously. One that did was a French County Court against the defendant Yahoo! Inc. [1] In that case the Court heard evidence that estimated the certainty of being able to identify a browser location. Perhaps 70% of users could realistically be located with a reasonable degree of accuracy.
One example of a common glaring error was those users who used the American AOL as a service provider, where the geo-location software pinpointed them as physically being in Virginia, USA.
1. League Against Racism and Antisemitism (LICRA), French Union of Jewish Students, v Yahoo! Inc. (USA), Yahoo France, Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris (The County Court of Paris), Interim Court Order, 20 November, 2000
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No.
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One example of a common glaring error was those users who used the American AOL as a service provider, where the geo-location software pinpointed them as physically being in Virginia, USA.
1. League Against Racism and Antisemitism (LICRA), French Union of Jewish Students, v Yahoo! Inc. (USA), Yahoo France, Tribunal de Grande Instance de Paris (The County Court of Paris), Interim Court Order, 20 November, 2000
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Oops.
Advocate-General of Minnesota: “Persons outside of Minnesota who transmit information via the internet knowing that information will be disseminated in Minnesota are subject to jurisdiction in Minnesota courts for violations of state criminal and civil laws”.
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