Re: its still a PAYWALL, or lipstick on a pig.. pay for content is a paywall..
...it's been said here that many of the articles you are working on do not EVER get on techdirt, but they do or are available for your paywall clients.
That's not true, and it's not what was said. Sometimes they start articles, and the titles are available to view (to anyone, but more easily to for paying customers) but, for whatever reason, the article is never completed and never posted. Any article that appears for Crystal Ball folks show up for everyone. Only the title ever appears. And, again, even the early articles are available to everyone. They're just easier for us to access.
Lets face it Mike, its a paywall, trying to dress it up as something else is a JOKE.. And you are (sorry to say) stupid if you believe or have convinced yourself its anything but a common daggy old paywall. . Oh but no its not because its not called a paywall, its called a crystal ball, same difference.
Paywall. You keep using that word. I do not think this word means what you think it means.
If you charge money for specific content, or content that will not ever be posted here, in free world. Then you are the proud owner of a PAYWALL
And Techdirt has never done that, so it's obviously not a paywall.
But hey you're got at least 10 different people here that are convinced you are "the leader" all hale the leader. Thank goodness for you Mike, without you, one of these people would have a single thought between them. But they can parrot you all day.. chanting your mantra. and blinded by your shinning light.
I don't know if you've noticed, but Mike is one of many writers here. It seems like you're the only one here with a fixation on Mike Masnick.
They even believe you are somehow better or more ethical than everyone else.
Better and more ethical than you maybe, but not any more than anyone else, in general, so far as I know.
But I find you do run a paywall, and I have to guess you want to stop other companies running paywalls as well, as that would mean less money for your paywall.
That doesn't even make sense. Paywalls aren't a zero sum situation, so the existence of other paywalls wouldn't automatically hurt any single paywall. It's irrelevant anyway, because by your own definition, there's no Techdirt paywall.
The fact is, you'll do anything for a dollar, if the price is right you will sell out your ethics everytime.
This blog is part of a business. Do you think that it's somehow unethical for a business to include money? For that matter, what's going on here that unethical? You keep using that word, without any explanation...
And if you think a blog, twitter "and so on" is connecting with fans, then you do not understand what connecting means.
Connecting. Again, I do not think this word means what you think it means...
And again, its NO different than what EVERYONE ELSE DOES, they connect with fans, and create a reason to buy.
Really? Britney Spears has a blog, a Twitter account, and so on? If you @ her, she'll reply? If you comment on her blog, she'll reply and discuss the post with you? Really? Yeah, you're an idiot.
Ofcourse you have to connect with customers (fans), and you have to give a reason to buy.
So you're saying that you agree with Mike Masnick?
What companies can you name that DO NOT do that ?
I just named one, but I can think of dozens of others. PG&E, the quarterback of the OU football team, the dealership I purchased my last two vehicles from, Tom Hanks, the CEO of Sandisk and Sharpie... The list is huge.
As I said, its a NO BRAINER..
It is absolutely a 'no brainer', but plenty of companies and people can't manage to do it.
...but being so simple and basic I tend to still be amazed at your lack of ability to 'connect with fans', and I have yet to see what could possibly be a 'reason to buy'.
Plenty of fans have written about their connections, and have purchased. Therefore, Techirt has successfully managed the CwF+RtB model.
As I stated before, you talk at people, you dictate to them, and you clearly do not follow your own advice, or ethics, but you expect people to just listen and believe you.
Examples?
NO Mike you do not enter into debates or discussions, you make short posts and say things like "No, you are wrong", and "stop lying".
You're absolutely wrong. But have fun with that.
Great Mike, way to display how you 'connect with fans', if someone wants to connect with Techdirt, they sure can, but THEY HAVE TO PAY MONEY FIRST..
The Techdirt writers were connecting with fans, including myself, long before the Crystal Ball, which previous purchasers got for free after it expired.
Until you can show me, (or anyone else who thinks) why your paywall, or system of selling anything if the price is right any different than any of the groups or companies that also apply the same business techniques as you do.
No one has claimed that Techdirt is the only blog to leverage this model. In fact, Techdirt makes a habit of writing posts about other companies and people who do the same thing.
Again, your reputation is in tatters Mike, you just have not worked it out yet. (most others have, except your fanbois).
With who? Fans? Tech writers? Congress? You know, all of those people who do value the input of the people here...
So it's after all not about independent news and information, its about pulling in that mighty DOLLAR, if the price is right you will happily give up all your idealogy so you can make a few bucks, flogging T-Shirts and "crystal balls".
What ideology? You keep ignoring the fact that this blog, which has repeatedly stated that it is not news or journalism, is a part of a business.
Why not a Mike for sale T-Shirt, for the right price Mike will do anything you ask..
Except post letters threatening lawsuits, even though his fans have been begging him to do so for years. :)
So amusing, but way to easy..
An accurate statement, as long as it's referring to debunking your posts.
That is actually what happened the first time that I tried to Google you, to find your books. :P I was like, whoa! Then... No way is this the same guy. This Geithner guy is totally humorless. :P
I was thisclose to suggesting @techdirt.com e-mail forwarding for a fee, but then I thought of all of the havoc people could wreak by being assholes. @user.techdirt.com would probably work, though, since it specifies that we're users...
Hey, Mike! I would pay $10 a year for an e-mail forward and the Crystal Ball. :)
I don't usually notice until I come back hours later, or the next day, to look for responses. Fortunately, the threads on this site seem to have a smaller percentage of grammar Nazi posts.
That sounds great, as long as no one expects us to pay jacket price for every book. I have to really like your work before I'll pay the MSRP. Even then, I get a 25% discount at Borders, so I never actually pay the jacket price...
Top of my list are long-sleeved shirts and zippered hoodies. I've actively wanted both of those. I tend to lose flash drives, so I probably wouldn't spend extra to buy a branded one.
"And what is it about your system that is different to what everyone ELSE DOES ON THE FREAKING PLANET."
The 'Connecting With Fans' part. Oh, also, the 'Reason To Buy' is missing from many markets.
"You think you are SO SMART with your 'master plan', except its a NO BRAINER Mike."
Yes, everyone here as repeatedly stated that it's a very basic and simple concept. Too bad that you don't seem to understand it.
"...Gee so when I see an add on TV, or google or whatever (even techdirt) are they NOT connecting with 'fans'..."
That's correct. When sellers purchase air time, they are not connecting with fans. Whatever ads are on this site, on the side bar or wherever (Yay, AdBlockPlus!), are talking at potential customers, not connecting with fans.
"Mike what have YOU dont to apply your 'own' formula, what do you do to connect with fans ?"
The fact that your post addresses Mike Masnick directly shows that you understand that this blog is one of the ways that he connects with fans.
"You talk AT people (and hope some will become a 'fan'), but you do not 'CONNECT' with them."
That's funny. I've seen Mike and several other TechDirt writers actively discussing aspects of their posts with commentors. Techdirt also offers a forum for non-Techdirt folks (Amanda Palmer, Nina Paley, and Tim Geiger, to name three right off the top of my head...) to interact with fans, and people who may become fans. Personally, I feel like Techdirt has done quite a bit of connecting with me.
Of course, I make sense when I post...
"If you consider your readers your 'fans' then what are you doing to connect with us ?"
Besides having an open blog, Twitter feeds, and so on? What else do they need to be doing?
"You think talking at us, stating misleading facts and cut and paste other people comments is 'connecting with fans' ???"
I don't think that sort of conduct would make a good connection, and I'm glad that the Techdirt writers don't do any of that.
"..then you want to claim you need a reason to buy."
Yes, it's CwF+RtB, not one or the other.
"They may have a DESIRE TO BUY a techdirt T-Shirt, but as for a REASON. What would be the reason to buy a T-Shirt, or a Crystal Ball ?
Logical fallacy. Reason is how you came to the conclusion that you wanted one. It has nothing to do with need vs. want.
"Its also nice to note Mike that you would and are willing to give up your principles for cold hard cash.. So if the price is right, mike will shut down techdirt alltogether. Nice to see where your heart is Mike, (give me enough money and ill shut my mouth).
What's unprincipled about that? There's nothing inherently unprincipled in taking a year's vacay for a million bucks.
"So simply put, youre here for the CASH mike, and everything else is geared towards the sales of your 'merchandise'."
Roflmao, it's not as though Techdirt is a non-profit, or as if the sole purpose of Techdirt is to inform the public about the matters that are discussed here. The Techdirt blog is very openly a part of a business plan. You know, business? That thing that many people do to make money?
"So how is it working for you so far ? making lots of money ? giving all these people a "reason to buy"."
Well, this blog has been around for years and years, as part of a business that's keeping the many writers and back-end folks in food and housing all of this time, so my guess is: Pretty darn good.
""limited edition T-Shirt" is that an "artifical scarcity" Mike ?"
No, a T-shirt is a scarce good, not an artificially scarce good.
"Ill make an offer to any Techdirt readers here, that if you want any of these products contact me first, I will make exact copies of all the products and sell that at a quarter of TD's prices.."
The reason to buy a Techdirt T-shirt is because we're fans of Techdirt, not because we need T-shirts. Purchasing a T-shirt from a troll wouldn't be cool. There wouldn't be any reason to buy. Hello?
"Is that OK mike ?"
The folks at Techdirt has repeatedly stated that they're okay with the people who copy them, because the market takes care of it for them. If you made and sold T-shirts advertising Techdirt, you'd just be providing free advertising. You know that people copy Techdirt all the time, right? You'd simply be another copier.
Also, is this Technopolitical? Because your post is just as disjointed and amusing as his always were.
As trench0r said, a pay-what-you-want Crystal Ball option would be great. I would have paid $5 for that last year, when I first wrote about not wanting to pay $15 for it. :P
Yes, it's 60 minutes. And sometimes they're edited during that time. The best part of the Crystal Ball is seeing the titles of what they're working on. Sometimes you see a title, and then don't see the article for days, or never. Sometimes you see cool stuff and you get excited (in a geeky, fangirl way). The rest of the time, it just helps us see what not to submit about. :P
My first reaction was 'YES'! Then I thought... What brand would it be? Would it have a cap or a button-thingy? Would it have a hole for placement on a chain or key chain?
So... It's a great idea, but make sure it's a good one.
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Re: its still a PAYWALL, or lipstick on a pig.. pay for content is a paywall..
That's not true, and it's not what was said. Sometimes they start articles, and the titles are available to view (to anyone, but more easily to for paying customers) but, for whatever reason, the article is never completed and never posted. Any article that appears for Crystal Ball folks show up for everyone. Only the title ever appears. And, again, even the early articles are available to everyone. They're just easier for us to access.
Lets face it Mike, its a paywall, trying to dress it up as something else is a JOKE.. And you are (sorry to say) stupid if you believe or have convinced yourself its anything but a common daggy old paywall. . Oh but no its not because its not called a paywall, its called a crystal ball, same difference.
Paywall. You keep using that word. I do not think this word means what you think it means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paywall
If you charge money for specific content, or content that will not ever be posted here, in free world. Then you are the proud owner of a PAYWALL
And Techdirt has never done that, so it's obviously not a paywall.
But hey you're got at least 10 different people here that are convinced you are "the leader" all hale the leader. Thank goodness for you Mike, without you, one of these people would have a single thought between them. But they can parrot you all day.. chanting your mantra. and blinded by your shinning light.
I don't know if you've noticed, but Mike is one of many writers here. It seems like you're the only one here with a fixation on Mike Masnick.
They even believe you are somehow better or more ethical than everyone else.
Better and more ethical than you maybe, but not any more than anyone else, in general, so far as I know.
But I find you do run a paywall, and I have to guess you want to stop other companies running paywalls as well, as that would mean less money for your paywall.
That doesn't even make sense. Paywalls aren't a zero sum situation, so the existence of other paywalls wouldn't automatically hurt any single paywall. It's irrelevant anyway, because by your own definition, there's no Techdirt paywall.
The fact is, you'll do anything for a dollar, if the price is right you will sell out your ethics everytime.
This blog is part of a business. Do you think that it's somehow unethical for a business to include money? For that matter, what's going on here that unethical? You keep using that word, without any explanation...
And if you think a blog, twitter "and so on" is connecting with fans, then you do not understand what connecting means.
Connecting. Again, I do not think this word means what you think it means...
And again, its NO different than what EVERYONE ELSE DOES, they connect with fans, and create a reason to buy.
Really? Britney Spears has a blog, a Twitter account, and so on? If you @ her, she'll reply? If you comment on her blog, she'll reply and discuss the post with you? Really? Yeah, you're an idiot.
Ofcourse you have to connect with customers (fans), and you have to give a reason to buy.
So you're saying that you agree with Mike Masnick?
What companies can you name that DO NOT do that ?
I just named one, but I can think of dozens of others. PG&E, the quarterback of the OU football team, the dealership I purchased my last two vehicles from, Tom Hanks, the CEO of Sandisk and Sharpie... The list is huge.
As I said, its a NO BRAINER..
It is absolutely a 'no brainer', but plenty of companies and people can't manage to do it.
...but being so simple and basic I tend to still be amazed at your lack of ability to 'connect with fans', and I have yet to see what could possibly be a 'reason to buy'.
Plenty of fans have written about their connections, and have purchased. Therefore, Techirt has successfully managed the CwF+RtB model.
As I stated before, you talk at people, you dictate to them, and you clearly do not follow your own advice, or ethics, but you expect people to just listen and believe you.
Examples?
NO Mike you do not enter into debates or discussions, you make short posts and say things like "No, you are wrong", and "stop lying".
You're absolutely wrong. But have fun with that.
Great Mike, way to display how you 'connect with fans', if someone wants to connect with Techdirt, they sure can, but THEY HAVE TO PAY MONEY FIRST..
The Techdirt writers were connecting with fans, including myself, long before the Crystal Ball, which previous purchasers got for free after it expired.
Until you can show me, (or anyone else who thinks) why your paywall, or system of selling anything if the price is right any different than any of the groups or companies that also apply the same business techniques as you do.
No one has claimed that Techdirt is the only blog to leverage this model. In fact, Techdirt makes a habit of writing posts about other companies and people who do the same thing.
Again, your reputation is in tatters Mike, you just have not worked it out yet. (most others have, except your fanbois).
With who? Fans? Tech writers? Congress? You know, all of those people who do value the input of the people here...
So it's after all not about independent news and information, its about pulling in that mighty DOLLAR, if the price is right you will happily give up all your idealogy so you can make a few bucks, flogging T-Shirts and "crystal balls".
What ideology? You keep ignoring the fact that this blog, which has repeatedly stated that it is not news or journalism, is a part of a business.
Why not a Mike for sale T-Shirt, for the right price Mike will do anything you ask..
Except post letters threatening lawsuits, even though his fans have been begging him to do so for years. :)
So amusing, but way to easy..
An accurate statement, as long as it's referring to debunking your posts.
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Hey, Mike! I would pay $10 a year for an e-mail forward and the Crystal Ball. :)
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Re: Mikes paywall.. oh sorry 'crystal ball'
Paywall. You keep using that word. I do not think this word means what you think it means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paywall
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Re: What reason to buy again, ??
The 'Connecting With Fans' part. Oh, also, the 'Reason To Buy' is missing from many markets.
"You think you are SO SMART with your 'master plan', except its a NO BRAINER Mike."
Yes, everyone here as repeatedly stated that it's a very basic and simple concept. Too bad that you don't seem to understand it.
"...Gee so when I see an add on TV, or google or whatever (even techdirt) are they NOT connecting with 'fans'..."
That's correct. When sellers purchase air time, they are not connecting with fans. Whatever ads are on this site, on the side bar or wherever (Yay, AdBlockPlus!), are talking at potential customers, not connecting with fans.
"Mike what have YOU dont to apply your 'own' formula, what do you do to connect with fans ?"
The fact that your post addresses Mike Masnick directly shows that you understand that this blog is one of the ways that he connects with fans.
"You talk AT people (and hope some will become a 'fan'), but you do not 'CONNECT' with them."
That's funny. I've seen Mike and several other TechDirt writers actively discussing aspects of their posts with commentors. Techdirt also offers a forum for non-Techdirt folks (Amanda Palmer, Nina Paley, and Tim Geiger, to name three right off the top of my head...) to interact with fans, and people who may become fans. Personally, I feel like Techdirt has done quite a bit of connecting with me.
Of course, I make sense when I post...
"If you consider your readers your 'fans' then what are you doing to connect with us ?"
Besides having an open blog, Twitter feeds, and so on? What else do they need to be doing?
"You think talking at us, stating misleading facts and cut and paste other people comments is 'connecting with fans' ???"
I don't think that sort of conduct would make a good connection, and I'm glad that the Techdirt writers don't do any of that.
"..then you want to claim you need a reason to buy."
Yes, it's CwF+RtB, not one or the other.
"They may have a DESIRE TO BUY a techdirt T-Shirt, but as for a REASON. What would be the reason to buy a T-Shirt, or a Crystal Ball ?
Logical fallacy. Reason is how you came to the conclusion that you wanted one. It has nothing to do with need vs. want.
"Its also nice to note Mike that you would and are willing to give up your principles for cold hard cash.. So if the price is right, mike will shut down techdirt alltogether. Nice to see where your heart is Mike, (give me enough money and ill shut my mouth).
What's unprincipled about that? There's nothing inherently unprincipled in taking a year's vacay for a million bucks.
"So simply put, youre here for the CASH mike, and everything else is geared towards the sales of your 'merchandise'."
Roflmao, it's not as though Techdirt is a non-profit, or as if the sole purpose of Techdirt is to inform the public about the matters that are discussed here. The Techdirt blog is very openly a part of a business plan. You know, business? That thing that many people do to make money?
"So how is it working for you so far ? making lots of money ? giving all these people a "reason to buy"."
Well, this blog has been around for years and years, as part of a business that's keeping the many writers and back-end folks in food and housing all of this time, so my guess is: Pretty darn good.
""limited edition T-Shirt" is that an "artifical scarcity" Mike ?"
No, a T-shirt is a scarce good, not an artificially scarce good.
"Ill make an offer to any Techdirt readers here, that if you want any of these products contact me first, I will make exact copies of all the products and sell that at a quarter of TD's prices.."
The reason to buy a Techdirt T-shirt is because we're fans of Techdirt, not because we need T-shirts. Purchasing a T-shirt from a troll wouldn't be cool. There wouldn't be any reason to buy. Hello?
"Is that OK mike ?"
The folks at Techdirt has repeatedly stated that they're okay with the people who copy them, because the market takes care of it for them. If you made and sold T-shirts advertising Techdirt, you'd just be providing free advertising. You know that people copy Techdirt all the time, right? You'd simply be another copier.
Also, is this Technopolitical? Because your post is just as disjointed and amusing as his always were.
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Re: Ideas
4. That would be full of win.
6. The ability to edit our comments, because typos makes me sadf.
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Re: Personal Bookmarks / Library
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So... It's a great idea, but make sure it's a good one.
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