... or if the copyright notice was not attached, it was never protected by copyright.
That was my take on the previous article.
It's too bad that law isn't like software. "Replace that disgusting, buggy crap" isn't considered an option. Instead, they just bolt on more crap hoping that'll fix the existing crap and it never does.
Re: Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jul 29th, 2015 @ 1:13pm
Translation: I already decided that this work is in the public domain, and while I can't comment on the substance of the defendant's opposition, I'll just declare it to be wrong.
Moron. Read and comprehend the article.
In his/her/its defence (Devil's advocate mode), that's not easy. US copyright law is a lot like "Romans stirring entrails" stuff.
I think it's ridiculous that anyone can pull in two mil per year for decades (almost a century!) over what's pretty much a folk song, with multiple instances of state copyright law intertwined with federal US copyright law as controls over the situation. What a friggin' mess! It's public domain, ffs, and should have been recognized as such a hundred mil or so ago, yet the courts still entertain the idea that this is not settled? Gimme a break!
To the grandparent poster, I think (contrary to your snide whispers to the contrary) Mike's conclusion re: this situation was clear long, long ago. You are casting wholly unwarranted aspersions. I can only assume you're being paid to do so, or you're just an amateur wannabe Imaginary Property maximalist. You're not very good at this (TD sees right through you and everything you try to do), and I think you ought to look around for another hobby. I suggest Fark.com or Onion.com would be endlessly entertaining for such as you. Perhaps RT and Stormfront would welcome such as you too.
Eventually, the details were spilled by Ed Snowden who is, of course, now being threatened with death for blowing the whistle.
FTFY.
From what I've read, Snowden's just happy that the only ones who're making this all about him are the LEOs/"Authoritays." He's happy that pretty much everyone else is focusing on the crap he blew the whistle on, which was always his intention. I think it's really cool how he's all over the world via Internet video, including a standing ovation at an IETF hackathon. Rock on, Ed! :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: out_of_the_blue is a Freetard!
I often can't find what someone else is replying to when they don't quote anything.
Are you using threaded mode? Not everyone uses reply to this, but most do.
i) Yes, ii) and I've noticed that. It's little more than a trivial annoyance for me, however. Just a "wish list" sort of thing. Maybe one of these days, I should read the documentation ("New to Techdirt?" link)?
It is bad enough my cable provider, internet provide, smart phone and cellphone provider are spying on me. I don't need to add to that list.
Heard of Tails Linux? Runs from a USB key tor (or i2p) enabled from boot; Ed Snowden recommended. For phones, replace stock Android with something cyanogenmod-ish. iBaubles? Accept you're trendy but boned.
Advertisement has become so intrusive and annoying that I've seen quite a few people I know to actively avoid ads when they are visible.
From the other end of the transaction, Slate recently informed its non-US readers that, as their advertisers don't want to pay to advertise to us, they're essentially implementing a paywall for us.
G'bye Slate. Not a great loss for me. Not a great loss for them either. Still, pretty stupid for a "news" org, I think. We used to call this "shooting yourself in the foot."
... software embedded in the screens that can track anything you're playing on it ...
Holy fucking shitballs Batman!
Big Brother disapproves of your foul language. You've twenty-four hours to report to a re-education center. Have a nice day citizen. Oh, by the way, Soylent Green special now on!
All my data belongs to me. If they want to compile and use it, then they have to get my agreement and pay me.
They already did. You clicked OK on the EULA that popped up when it was powered up, and their using (selling) your data helps them keep the sale price down. Sucker. :-P
Looks like vizio just lost our districts money if it is going to monetize our students actions.
I suspect you're soon going to run out of acceptable potential vendors.
On the bright side, I see they're now selling ten packs of mechanical pencils made out of recycled materials (they look like cardboard tubes) for only $1.25, so it'll be cheap to go back to pencils & paper. You may need to teach the kids how to use them, however.
I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised at how aggressively TV manufacturers are working to make their products as objectionable as possible.
It's the way of the world this century, not just TV mfgrs. Cf. Keurig.
I wonder if we can blame it on reality TV. Once they learned how stupid the average prole is, they knew they could get away with damned near anything no matter how foolish the idea is in the long run. The other side of this is, if you believe in the pendulum theory of history, we should have full blown anarcho-capitalism within ten years. Murray Rothbard station next stop.
Re: It's Time for us Peaons to talk to our Gov'm'nt Representives
... a product they sell include a "watch you" feature that may include a "phone home" and talk about you feature.
... and is intent on selling anything they can glean from their relationship with you to all and sundry shady "partners" of theirs. Twenty years ago, that sort of thing wouldn't make it past infancy. Now, it's a core function. Who needs North Korean or Chinese "hackers" when Madison Ave. & Silicon Valley is rolling this out to valued customers who're paying to be boned by them?
With all the tinfoil hat complaining about Google selling anonymized data to advertisers, they're pikers compared to these guys.
... they're stating it's anonymized, but acknowledging it's personalized ...
Well, there's personalized, and then there's personalized. An advertiser doesn't need to know your name or DOB to flog their product at you, but they do want to flog their product to only those people who're conceivably wanting to purchase said product and can pay for it.
This is why I rediscovered public libraries. Technical manuals and non-fiction, I want to own outright. Entertainment, I want to borrow for a limited time, then recycle.
It's also quite amazing how many people think this way. I know about three groups in my small town who give away used books, video cassettes, CDs and DVDs to all comers. If you still own a VC player, you can do very well for no cost whatever. People who've abandoned VC players give the cassettes away just to get rid of them.
Re: More evidence of government and corporate capture of the media
You had this right the first time:
This is yet more evidence of government and corporate capture of the media.
Why then this:
It had to come from the government.
Abuse of power by gov't officials, or deep pocketed advertiser's nose is out of joint? It could be either. It could even be the editors not wanting to offend one or the other or both.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: out_of_the_blue is a Freetard!
I miss the "Parent" button Slashdot had (has?). I often can't find what someone else is replying to when they don't quote anything. It makes "Me too!" posts even more infuriating than they already are.
I really ought to try the "link to this" and "view in chronology" buttons sometime and figure out what they do. Come to think of it, maybe the latter's what I'm looking for.
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Re: Re:
That was my take on the previous article.
It's too bad that law isn't like software. "Replace that disgusting, buggy crap" isn't considered an option. Instead, they just bolt on more crap hoping that'll fix the existing crap and it never does.
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Re: Response to: Anonymous Coward on Jul 29th, 2015 @ 1:13pm
In his/her/its defence (Devil's advocate mode), that's not easy. US copyright law is a lot like "Romans stirring entrails" stuff.
I think it's ridiculous that anyone can pull in two mil per year for decades (almost a century!) over what's pretty much a folk song, with multiple instances of state copyright law intertwined with federal US copyright law as controls over the situation. What a friggin' mess! It's public domain, ffs, and should have been recognized as such a hundred mil or so ago, yet the courts still entertain the idea that this is not settled? Gimme a break!
To the grandparent poster, I think (contrary to your snide whispers to the contrary) Mike's conclusion re: this situation was clear long, long ago. You are casting wholly unwarranted aspersions. I can only assume you're being paid to do so, or you're just an amateur wannabe Imaginary Property maximalist. You're not very good at this (TD sees right through you and everything you try to do), and I think you ought to look around for another hobby. I suggest Fark.com or Onion.com would be endlessly entertaining for such as you. Perhaps RT and Stormfront would welcome such as you too.
Have a marvy day.
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Re: Let's be clear
From what I've read, Snowden's just happy that the only ones who're making this all about him are the LEOs/"Authoritays." He's happy that pretty much everyone else is focusing on the crap he blew the whistle on, which was always his intention. I think it's really cool how he's all over the world via Internet video, including a standing ovation at an IETF hackathon. Rock on, Ed! :-)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: out_of_the_blue is a Freetard!
i) Yes, ii) and I've noticed that. It's little more than a trivial annoyance for me, however. Just a "wish list" sort of thing. Maybe one of these days, I should read the documentation ("New to Techdirt?" link)?
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Re: And you thought
You must have missed the part about you're the useless garbage they're selling if you buy into it.
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Re: I can assure you...
Heard of Tails Linux? Runs from a USB key tor (or i2p) enabled from boot; Ed Snowden recommended. For phones, replace stock Android with something cyanogenmod-ish. iBaubles? Accept you're trendy but boned.
Take that, director Comey!
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Re:
From the other end of the transaction, Slate recently informed its non-US readers that, as their advertisers don't want to pay to advertise to us, they're essentially implementing a paywall for us.
G'bye Slate. Not a great loss for me. Not a great loss for them either. Still, pretty stupid for a "news" org, I think. We used to call this "shooting yourself in the foot."
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Re: WhatWhatWhat
Big Brother disapproves of your foul language. You've twenty-four hours to report to a re-education center. Have a nice day citizen. Oh, by the way, Soylent Green special now on!
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Re:
They already did. You clicked OK on the EULA that popped up when it was powered up, and their using (selling) your data helps them keep the sale price down. Sucker. :-P
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Re: Nice knowing you vizio
I suspect you're soon going to run out of acceptable potential vendors.
On the bright side, I see they're now selling ten packs of mechanical pencils made out of recycled materials (they look like cardboard tubes) for only $1.25, so it'll be cheap to go back to pencils & paper. You may need to teach the kids how to use them, however.
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Re: Re: I find this onerous
Pardon? As in, "I don't get the joke" (assuming you're joking).
Looks correct to me.
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Re: Re: Re:
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Re: Re:
It's the way of the world this century, not just TV mfgrs. Cf. Keurig.
I wonder if we can blame it on reality TV. Once they learned how stupid the average prole is, they knew they could get away with damned near anything no matter how foolish the idea is in the long run. The other side of this is, if you believe in the pendulum theory of history, we should have full blown anarcho-capitalism within ten years. Murray Rothbard station next stop.
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Re:
They can always spin it as helping to lower the purchase price.
Such as, either build a Faraday cage for your TV, or have it built into the walls of your house.
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Re: It's Time for us Peaons to talk to our Gov'm'nt Representives
... and is intent on selling anything they can glean from their relationship with you to all and sundry shady "partners" of theirs. Twenty years ago, that sort of thing wouldn't make it past infancy. Now, it's a core function. Who needs North Korean or Chinese "hackers" when Madison Ave. & Silicon Valley is rolling this out to valued customers who're paying to be boned by them?
With all the tinfoil hat complaining about Google selling anonymized data to advertisers, they're pikers compared to these guys.
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Re: anonymized and personalized?
Well, there's personalized, and then there's personalized. An advertiser doesn't need to know your name or DOB to flog their product at you, but they do want to flog their product to only those people who're conceivably wanting to purchase said product and can pay for it.
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Re: I don't want any ads from anyone
It's also quite amazing how many people think this way. I know about three groups in my small town who give away used books, video cassettes, CDs and DVDs to all comers. If you still own a VC player, you can do very well for no cost whatever. People who've abandoned VC players give the cassettes away just to get rid of them.
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Re: Wouldn't be so bad if they gave you the TV
... thinks they're purchasing a TV, whereas the seller knows they're merely selling a limited licence to use the seller's data aggregation portal.
Somebody sue 'em for bait and switch or truth in advertising lies.
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Re: More evidence of government and corporate capture of the media
Why then this:
Abuse of power by gov't officials, or deep pocketed advertiser's nose is out of joint? It could be either. It could even be the editors not wanting to offend one or the other or both.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: out_of_the_blue is a Freetard!
I really ought to try the "link to this" and "view in chronology" buttons sometime and figure out what they do. Come to think of it, maybe the latter's what I'm looking for.
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