Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 9 Aug 2012 @ 9:20am
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First off, you are comparing GROSS author revenue as an indie to net author revenue under the publisher model. That is to say that the Author may make more initial money selling cheaper e-books on a per unit basis, but from there they have to pay out any marketing and promotion they did
Pretty hard to compare marketing and other costs when the publishers keep that info hidden. Why don't you provide some studies that show it if you're so confident the publisher model would win out?
An indie author who is a great writer but a sucky marketer would make much more on higher priced e-books with a publisher, because they would do what he sucks at - marketing the damn thing.
[citation needed]
Third, the emphasis on the ethereal "building the platform" is a bit misplaced. There is no proof of any one to one relationship between books sold and "platform" built.
Seriously? First, "platform" was never used in the article. What you should be referring to is "brand" or "name recognition" and there is mountains of evidence in support of it. How many people will run out and buy the next Stephen King novel just because he wrote it? Thousands - maybe millions. I've got a dozen favorite authors I'll buy books by, just because I've enjoyed the books they've previously written.
In reality, it could be argued that the very low price e-book makes the author almost irrelevant in the discussion, that people are often buying because it's too cheap not to, and MIGHT be okay.
Yeah, they'll do it once - which is the whole point - and with near zero marginal cost, there is every benefit to get that first sale and build the relationship. And if it's good, then the next time they see a book by the author, they'll buy that as well. But if the first book sucks? No way I'm even dropping 99 cents on the next one.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 9 Aug 2012 @ 7:02am
Re: No, trolling is worse. IT's a way to live in denial
You're accused of being a troll because:
Your arguments are full of logical fallacies (when they are not twisted nonsense that couldn't be cut through with the jaws of life).
You don't respond to the questions raised.
You never back up anything you say with evidence.
You consistently use personal attacks.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 8 Aug 2012 @ 11:29am
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The entire concept of putting limits on infinitely copyable bits is dumb, so you're starting from a baseline dumb level and only going higher the more limits that are added.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 8 Aug 2012 @ 6:30am
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So 70% of what... how big is the resale business? That would be a good indication of how much used is eating into the new market, because clearly the money isn't just appearing out of the sky, people are buying used.
70% of trade-in credit goes to new games. Which means the remaining 30% is made up of buying other used games, or just ends up sitting in customer's accounts.
You make the (time and time again) disproven assumption that everyone who buys used games would have bought a brand new game at full retail price. Please learn some basic economics.
You also assume that in the absence of a trade-in market, the sale of new games would not drop. Some of those buying a new game are willing to pay the price because they know they'll play it for a few weeks or a month, and then trade it in and be able to recoup some of their money for another game.
The stat I'd really like to see: how many new games are purchased with any trade-in credit at all. That would be what new sales would drop if used sales were to go away. Those sales are what are going to the most dedicated gamers - the ones who are buying the games near release dates, playing them, trading them in, then getting the next release. They are the most loyal customers. They are the trend setters and the opinion influencers - beware of pissing them off.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 7 Aug 2012 @ 10:22am
Re: Re: Re: the value of books
Schools don't need to ask permission from a publisher when they use a book to teach.
Libraries don't need to ask permission to put a book into their collection, index it, and then lend it out. Lend the entire book out for free!
Why should Google need permission to scan a book, index it, put it in a searchable database, when they do not give out the copies? And they even point to where someone can buy the book!
Google isn't taking anything away from the authors or publishers. They are adding a tremendously useful service, giving it to the authors and publishers for free, and directing people to where they can buy the books.
Only in a seriously fucked up permission culture is this not considered a good thing.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 7 Aug 2012 @ 7:32am
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Patents are mostly used well and properly, and occassionally not. Why suddenly remove Kodak's right to sell the patents on?
Patents are by definition a government granted monopoly.
A monopoly is by definition anti-competitive.
Monopolies are generally bad for innovation and generally bad for consumers.
At best, patents are neutral or benign - but not good or proper. At worst, we've all seen the many, many examples of the harm caused.
If the government grants a monopoly, the government should be able to say how that monopoly is used. Personally, I don't think government should be granting monopolies at all. Maybe a 20 year monopoly over an idea made sense 200 years ago. But now? Product life-cycles are 6-18 months. A company can come from nowhere and be a global powerhouse in 5 years. 20 year monopolies over ideas are beyond absurd.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Aug 2012 @ 2:04pm
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I don't have it in front of me, but I was under the impression that the wording was something to the effect of:
To retain safe harbors, upon receipt of a valid DMCA notice, a provider must promptly takedown the alleged infringing work for a period of 10 days.
So by putting the content back up prior to the 10 days, Youtube/Google are dropping their safe harbors protection on this video. Someone would need to be insane to try and sue them over it, but we've learned there are many insane lawyers and copyright holders.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Aug 2012 @ 12:39pm
Re: This is not an exception
According to a 2009 study conducted by Google, 57% of DMCA takedown requests--which are supposed to be used only to fight piracy--are instead made by businesses directly targeting their competition, as a form of sabotage. And 37% of requests do not represent a valid copyright claim.
That seems really high, even to me.
Was the Google study based on contested DMCA complaints? That's the only way that it seems even remotely possible that you could get as many as 94% bogus claims.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Aug 2012 @ 10:59am
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Yes, losses of 400,000 - and gains somewhere else of 275,000. Net, you are looking at 125,000.
Wrong. The 400k losses were from traditional cable/satellite companies - Comcast, TimeWarner, DirecTV.
From the article:
"Also the newer entrants to the TV market -- Verizon Communications' FiOS TV and AT&T Inc's U-verse -- added 275,000 customers during the quarter."
While the 275k is more of a switch to the competition, it is competition from a new outside source - not a traditional competitor.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Aug 2012 @ 10:52am
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I figure there is only a little while longer before they can force you to buy cable AND satellite coverage and fine you if you don't.
This would be amusing.
Considering the kind of flak that the NEA goes through on a regular basis on even barely controversial art, I'd love to see the broadcasters go through taking tax dollars to make reality tv.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Aug 2012 @ 10:37am
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I think you missed the sarcasm. Or maybe irony - of an AC arguing against anonymous posting and saying they should be removed by any complaint, and then another AC issuing said complaint to remove the first.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Aug 2012 @ 7:50am
Cord-nevers
There's also somethnig to be said for the "cord-nevers" - those in their 20s who have never had a cable subscription. They get their mass media entertainment from Hulu, Netflix, and other online sources. That segment will be even more disruptive than the cord-cutters.
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Pretty hard to compare marketing and other costs when the publishers keep that info hidden. Why don't you provide some studies that show it if you're so confident the publisher model would win out?
An indie author who is a great writer but a sucky marketer would make much more on higher priced e-books with a publisher, because they would do what he sucks at - marketing the damn thing.
[citation needed]
Third, the emphasis on the ethereal "building the platform" is a bit misplaced. There is no proof of any one to one relationship between books sold and "platform" built.
Seriously? First, "platform" was never used in the article. What you should be referring to is "brand" or "name recognition" and there is mountains of evidence in support of it. How many people will run out and buy the next Stephen King novel just because he wrote it? Thousands - maybe millions. I've got a dozen favorite authors I'll buy books by, just because I've enjoyed the books they've previously written.
In reality, it could be argued that the very low price e-book makes the author almost irrelevant in the discussion, that people are often buying because it's too cheap not to, and MIGHT be okay.
Yeah, they'll do it once - which is the whole point - and with near zero marginal cost, there is every benefit to get that first sale and build the relationship. And if it's good, then the next time they see a book by the author, they'll buy that as well. But if the first book sucks? No way I'm even dropping 99 cents on the next one.
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Re: No, trolling is worse. IT's a way to live in denial
Your arguments are full of logical fallacies (when they are not twisted nonsense that couldn't be cut through with the jaws of life).
You don't respond to the questions raised.
You never back up anything you say with evidence.
You consistently use personal attacks.
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Oh?
The Supreme Court said different in the Golan case.
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70% of trade-in credit goes to new games. Which means the remaining 30% is made up of buying other used games, or just ends up sitting in customer's accounts.
You make the (time and time again) disproven assumption that everyone who buys used games would have bought a brand new game at full retail price. Please learn some basic economics.
You also assume that in the absence of a trade-in market, the sale of new games would not drop. Some of those buying a new game are willing to pay the price because they know they'll play it for a few weeks or a month, and then trade it in and be able to recoup some of their money for another game.
The stat I'd really like to see: how many new games are purchased with any trade-in credit at all. That would be what new sales would drop if used sales were to go away. Those sales are what are going to the most dedicated gamers - the ones who are buying the games near release dates, playing them, trading them in, then getting the next release. They are the most loyal customers. They are the trend setters and the opinion influencers - beware of pissing them off.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: big mistake on Google's part
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Even a citation from a credible source.
I'm not asking for much.
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Re: Re: Re: the value of books
Libraries don't need to ask permission to put a book into their collection, index it, and then lend it out. Lend the entire book out for free!
Why should Google need permission to scan a book, index it, put it in a searchable database, when they do not give out the copies? And they even point to where someone can buy the book!
Google isn't taking anything away from the authors or publishers. They are adding a tremendously useful service, giving it to the authors and publishers for free, and directing people to where they can buy the books.
Only in a seriously fucked up permission culture is this not considered a good thing.
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Re: Re: Re: big mistake on Google's part
Where was Google doing that?
It's already been asked for dozens of times in the comments here and no one has shown any evidence of it.
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Re: big mistake on Google's part
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Re: the value of books
Yet when Google removed the newspaper excerpts and links from their service, the newspapers screamed bloody murder.
That proves exactly that the worth was in the service that Google built, not the content the newspapers wrote.
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Patents are by definition a government granted monopoly.
A monopoly is by definition anti-competitive.
Monopolies are generally bad for innovation and generally bad for consumers.
At best, patents are neutral or benign - but not good or proper. At worst, we've all seen the many, many examples of the harm caused.
If the government grants a monopoly, the government should be able to say how that monopoly is used. Personally, I don't think government should be granting monopolies at all. Maybe a 20 year monopoly over an idea made sense 200 years ago. But now? Product life-cycles are 6-18 months. A company can come from nowhere and be a global powerhouse in 5 years. 20 year monopolies over ideas are beyond absurd.
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To retain safe harbors, upon receipt of a valid DMCA notice, a provider must promptly takedown the alleged infringing work for a period of 10 days.
So by putting the content back up prior to the 10 days, Youtube/Google are dropping their safe harbors protection on this video. Someone would need to be insane to try and sue them over it, but we've learned there are many insane lawyers and copyright holders.
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Re: A quick change to the law, and this stops
Which is why that would never get through Congress.
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Re: This is not an exception
That seems really high, even to me.
Was the Google study based on contested DMCA complaints? That's the only way that it seems even remotely possible that you could get as many as 94% bogus claims.
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Wrong. The 400k losses were from traditional cable/satellite companies - Comcast, TimeWarner, DirecTV.
From the article:
"Also the newer entrants to the TV market -- Verizon Communications' FiOS TV and AT&T Inc's U-verse -- added 275,000 customers during the quarter."
While the 275k is more of a switch to the competition, it is competition from a new outside source - not a traditional competitor.
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This would be amusing.
Considering the kind of flak that the NEA goes through on a regular basis on even barely controversial art, I'd love to see the broadcasters go through taking tax dollars to make reality tv.
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Its less funny after explaining it. sadface
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