Both are customers, and these artists have been pretty outraged over what these agencies are doing, so no, they're not .carrying out the wishes of their clients'.
No. They pay to broadcast in a certain area. In other words, if you listen to the radio, it's been paid for by them. It doesn't matter if it's your radio or theirs, they've already paid to broadcast it.
These agencies are supposed to collect funds on behalf of artists, but their actions are driving customers away. Neither customers nor artists are being helped by this.
You say that the mall customer should boycott the mall because of the lack of music? I say that the mall customer should boycott artists affiliated with those agencies because of their tactics. Then maybe they'll learn. :)
Most offices are open to the public. My insurance office, my doctor's office (yes, the part with a desk), the Social Security office, all kinds of offices are open to the public. :)
We used to play the radio in my jewelry store, because the jeweler liked to hear it. It had zip to do with increasing custom.
What if the barber played it because he likes to hear music? It's okay, then? What if it's music that his customers don't even like? Would that make it okay, since it's not increasing his custom?
So you're saying that the Kenyan culture has a rightful owner? Who is that, exactly? Can you patent elements of Kenyan culture? If so, doesn't that infringe upon the rights of all of the other Kenyans? If not, why not? You're Kenyan, so Kenyan culture is your culture.
Really, the idea of patenting the essence of a culture is just stupid and unworkable.
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It's not true that 'Kids who bully don't usually have responsible parents. Even kids with responsible parents bully.
Insults and physical assault (like pinching) are bullying. Saying that it's not 'real' bullying is like saying that it's okay to pinch and slap your wife because it's not 'real' abuse. The pinching and insults are part of systematic bullying, and pretty much all children do it.
Plenty of children have responsible parents, and they still bully. And men who slap their wives are still abusers.
That's not true at all. Studies have shown that children bully. End of story. Yes, troubled children bully more, but most children do bully.
Further, troubled doesn't mean irresponsible parents. It could mean a parent in the military, the death, traumatic injury, or permanent disability of a parent, sibling, or close family member, or other childhood trauma unrelated to the perfectly responsible parents.
Counseling is ordered by the lowest level of Child Protective Services (a third party) all of the time, even in cases where there is no other evidence of services needed. It's pretty much a CYA so that they can say that they did something. If you refuse, your case is referred to court and you can explain your refusal to a judge, who may or may not agree with you.
Next, counseling isn't even close to the same thing as a 'correction'. It's only a 'correction' if your child is a bully. If your child isn't a bully, then it's merely boring talk from adults. Or insightful talk to a child who isn't yet bullying, but might in the future without intercession.
It seems like you think that counseling is a punishment that should only be given to the guilty. I disagree. It's not a punishment, and childish behavior isn't a crime, anyway. Further, we correct children's behavior all the time, without proof that they've misbehaved. We preemptively correct behavior, without any proof that they're going to misbehave. That's our job.
Next, forced counseling happens all the time in schools. Children who let their grades lapse go speak to the school guidance counselor. Children who have behaved badly go and speak to the principal. The idea of mandatory counseling for bad behavior isn't new, and parents have agreed to it as part of the school disciplinary plan every school year for longer than I've been alive. The difference here is that the counseling would be with someone more qualified than a frustrated administrator.
You don't want to work within the frame of discipline that the school requires? Withdraw your child. The same would go if you disagree with in-school suspension or detention, which are also a part of the same disciplinary plan that's been the standard in public schools since I was a child.
I don't think that this idea is perfect, but I do think that it has merit, much more so than suspension or detention for bad behavior, and immeasurably more so than ignoring signs of bad behavior in children because you can't prove it in a court of law.
It's much more possible that continued bullying will have a negative effect on a child... :P
Counseling is ordered by the lowest level of Child Protective Services all of the time. It's pretty much a CYA so that they can say that they did something if it ever comes up again. If you refuse, your case is referred to court and you can explain your refusal to a judge, who may or may not agree with you.
Further, my oldest son was suspected of not behaving appropriately several years ago, and I was the first to put him into counseling. If I had chosen not to, I would have had to find a different day care center, which seems appropriate to me.
Think of it this way. The schools suspects that two children are bullying each other. The school calls the parents. Two weeks later, the signs are still there. The school calls the parents and recommends counseling. If they don't agree to counseling, and the signs are still there, they call CPS. You know the first thing that CPS will do? Recommend counseling.
My state now takes my taxes and uses it to pay for curriculum through the company that I was already purchasing curriculum from. The dollar amount of the curriculum that they provide me (if I choose to use it, which I do) is more than the dollar amount of my taxes that are used for education, as well as I can figure it. :) In other words, I win. (For now.)
Physical abuse and neglect carries into a classroom as well. Should schools be responsible for feeding, clothing, and nurturing children, or should they just call the correct authorities?
Adults can humiliate children when they think it's warranted, without proof of need. That's not a bad thing, that's an appropriate thing.
For instance, alot of parents suspect that their children may decide to have sex, and subject them to embarrassing talks, and even make them take birth control without their consent based on that suspicion. Ohh, evil parents. They should wait until they catch their child in flagrante delicto before taking them to the doctor. :) Or until they catch an STD, or get pregnant. Oh, wait...
Also, school is not about learning the ropes of society. School isn't even a good place to do so. (Socialization with solely people of your own age and general income level isn't real socialization at all.)
Let's teach children that bullying isn't acceptable, by targeting children who may need the counseling, and making sure that they get the services that they may need.
That's the problem with bullying. Most of it is not overt, and adults can't prove it. Counseling isn't punishment, so I don't see a problem with helping children who may need help. Worst case scenario, it's a waste of time. Worth it, imo.
How about mandatory counseling for suspected bullying?
That would be a great deterrent for quite a few children (Who the hell wants to submit to something boring and embarrassing like that?) And it would help children who are bullying, or at least get them in front of someone who can better gauge what services they need.
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You say that the mall customer should boycott the mall because of the lack of music? I say that the mall customer should boycott artists affiliated with those agencies because of their tactics. Then maybe they'll learn. :)
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All you can gather from the fact that he played licensed music is that... he played licensed music. You can make any other soup from that oyster. :)
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We used to play the radio in my jewelry store, because the jeweler liked to hear it. It had zip to do with increasing custom.
What if the barber played it because he likes to hear music? It's okay, then? What if it's music that his customers don't even like? Would that make it okay, since it's not increasing his custom?
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Really, the idea of patenting the essence of a culture is just stupid and unworkable.
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Insults and physical assault (like pinching) are bullying. Saying that it's not 'real' bullying is like saying that it's okay to pinch and slap your wife because it's not 'real' abuse. The pinching and insults are part of systematic bullying, and pretty much all children do it.
Plenty of children have responsible parents, and they still bully. And men who slap their wives are still abusers.
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Further, troubled doesn't mean irresponsible parents. It could mean a parent in the military, the death, traumatic injury, or permanent disability of a parent, sibling, or close family member, or other childhood trauma unrelated to the perfectly responsible parents.
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Next, counseling isn't even close to the same thing as a 'correction'. It's only a 'correction' if your child is a bully. If your child isn't a bully, then it's merely boring talk from adults. Or insightful talk to a child who isn't yet bullying, but might in the future without intercession.
It seems like you think that counseling is a punishment that should only be given to the guilty. I disagree. It's not a punishment, and childish behavior isn't a crime, anyway. Further, we correct children's behavior all the time, without proof that they've misbehaved. We preemptively correct behavior, without any proof that they're going to misbehave. That's our job.
Next, forced counseling happens all the time in schools. Children who let their grades lapse go speak to the school guidance counselor. Children who have behaved badly go and speak to the principal. The idea of mandatory counseling for bad behavior isn't new, and parents have agreed to it as part of the school disciplinary plan every school year for longer than I've been alive. The difference here is that the counseling would be with someone more qualified than a frustrated administrator.
You don't want to work within the frame of discipline that the school requires? Withdraw your child. The same would go if you disagree with in-school suspension or detention, which are also a part of the same disciplinary plan that's been the standard in public schools since I was a child.
I don't think that this idea is perfect, but I do think that it has merit, much more so than suspension or detention for bad behavior, and immeasurably more so than ignoring signs of bad behavior in children because you can't prove it in a court of law.
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Counseling is ordered by the lowest level of Child Protective Services all of the time. It's pretty much a CYA so that they can say that they did something if it ever comes up again. If you refuse, your case is referred to court and you can explain your refusal to a judge, who may or may not agree with you.
Further, my oldest son was suspected of not behaving appropriately several years ago, and I was the first to put him into counseling. If I had chosen not to, I would have had to find a different day care center, which seems appropriate to me.
Think of it this way. The schools suspects that two children are bullying each other. The school calls the parents. Two weeks later, the signs are still there. The school calls the parents and recommends counseling. If they don't agree to counseling, and the signs are still there, they call CPS. You know the first thing that CPS will do? Recommend counseling.
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For instance, alot of parents suspect that their children may decide to have sex, and subject them to embarrassing talks, and even make them take birth control without their consent based on that suspicion. Ohh, evil parents. They should wait until they catch their child in flagrante delicto before taking them to the doctor. :) Or until they catch an STD, or get pregnant. Oh, wait...
Also, school is not about learning the ropes of society. School isn't even a good place to do so. (Socialization with solely people of your own age and general income level isn't real socialization at all.)
Let's teach children that bullying isn't acceptable, by targeting children who may need the counseling, and making sure that they get the services that they may need.
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That would be a great deterrent for quite a few children (Who the hell wants to submit to something boring and embarrassing like that?) And it would help children who are bullying, or at least get them in front of someone who can better gauge what services they need.
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