This is exactly the same attitude that some had towards programming a VCR, and they thought it was amusing when their 9yo could do it.
The same people and business that used to call me out to fix thier phone or router after they'd dropped it into the toaster oven and not noticed the funny smell.
(You'd be amazed how often I heard variations of that!)
Strictly speaking you may be right. But that's hair splitting on an enormous scale. Better just to post a sign saying "Do not take photographs" and be clear about it. THEN the store has a better case.
After all the store is inviting the public in in order to sell them something. The whole trespassing thing skates out on very think ice after that if you're not being disruptive, causing damage or other clearly out of line behaviour.
My first response to such an employee would be to demand to speak to his/her supervisor. For all he knows it may be some architectural detail of the store that I'm wanting the photo of and not their book and I'd like to clear that up with someone in authority if the employee doesn't mind. And the picture I just took was a check shot to test the lighting.
That should waste some more of the employee's time far better put to use actually trying to sell a book. A point I'll happily make to the manager. While explaining that said architectural detail would make a nice backdrop for an ad for them should the shot turn out.
Oh, I see, I have a cell with a camera in it and THAT'S what's not allowed. It could have that Amazon app on it. So if I was photographing with a 35mm like camera body then it'd be fine? This could go on for quite some time.
At the end of said conversation, I'd thank the manager for his/her time and then point to the book in my free hand that I'd already selected to purchase and ask, politely, that it be returned to the shelf as I'm no longer interested in purchasing it from this store and that I'm going elsewhere. And, that, by the way, the elsewhere won't be Amazon as I already checked and they don't have it right now and I need it for my partner's birthday gift and can't wait for them to get it in.
Then I'd consumer more gasoline and inject more carbon into the air and go to another book store that I've checked with and know has it in stock and get it there.
Funny how that would work.
By the way, they can't stop me from taking pictures from a public place, say outside the window on a sidewalk through the window.
Most places would think that I'm just crazy, by the way, and ask if I've taken my meds today rather than toss me out onto the streets. At least I'd get a giggle about that and may even buy the book there as they offered some amusement to me.
In any retail business on or off line remember the customer is god. Retail needs me far more than I need them.
While you claim a bunch of "content grifting business models" care to actually name them? Other than search engines cause all they do is index what's out there and nothing more. (Enough about Google ads already as it's clear you know nothing about how they or other Web advertising models work.)
So, who are they? Huh? Where are all these so called crooks?
I'm starting to wonder if the grain from all the popcorn plants Hollywood sent you isn't mood altering, somehow.
They must all be hiding under your bed or in your closet.
I know of two small booksellers in these parts that have their stock on line and purchasable on their web site as well as the Amazon partner app there too so that if customers can't find it there they can get it from Amazon. The per book cut isn't great but it does pay for itself. In both cases what it does do is market research for them. They keep track of what's being ordered, genre and all that, bring the book(s) in and people stop hitting the Amazon button even though the cost is higher in store. Might as well use what Amazon freely offers than just complain about it.
Re: Why don't restaurants allow you to bring your own food and eat at their tables?
To answer the question you ask on your title it's mostly local food safety rules and laws that prevent it. Where they're relaxed some restaurants indeed do allow it. They know they're more than likely going to get orders for what they really make money on anyway..booze even if you bring your bagged lunch in. Or you'll buy sides or just sniff the daily special cooking and grab that instead. Nothing reads "impulse" buy quite like food, you know.
As for the rest of it there are plenty of reasons to patronize the ma and pa places for reasons other than price. Where you can find them after the chains and megastores drove them to the brink long before Amazon walked in with their little phone app.
Next up for the SOPA crowd in the US Congress. Ban comparison shopping at bookstores, between bookstores and Amazon. That's infringing copyright you darned pirates you!
Not that comparison shopping, browsing and perhaps a cup of coffee in the corner haven't existed since the first bookstore opened.
There's an industry at risk, dammit!
(Oh, and my best buddy and funding lobbyist from the offended bookstore has had no influence on me whatsoever. None at all. I promise!)
You see the problem isn't one of local vs Amazon, though that makes for nifty grandstanding.
Someone mentioned a triangle so I'll offer up one of my own. Ma and pa local book stores, by far the best way to shop for a book largely got pushed out of business not by Amazon but by big retail chains.
Around here that's called Chapters/Indigo. Ignorant staff who spend more time socializing than serving customers, the occasional staff pick even if you are left wondering what their meds were when they selected the book and high prices. Nice loss leaders near the front door or the Starbucks (like we need another one of those) renting space in the corner then when you dive in finding the prices on their books actually higher than the ma and pa place you just visited who are at least familiar with what's on their shelves. If anyone is "predatory" it's been that bunch.
I DO support my one local book store who stock rare and used books and is simply a wonderful place to browse and see what I can find. And I've found a few treasures.
In the meantime, back to the chain/megastore it's ironic that I can find more of what I want to read on Amazon and of local interest there than at the megastore. Including, amazingly enough a more up to date road/street/hiking map of the area. The latter being a pastime/practice that's widely done here and brings tourists here. Chapters/Indigo meanwhile, will happily sell you a recent self guided walking tour map, completely up to date, of Toronto where their head office is located but is 3500 miles east of here.
Local ma and pa bookstores, the few that are left, I support. Chains and mega-book-stores I don't. And, it seems to be the latter complaining.
All I can say is so sad, too bad. When you can match the knowledge and customer care of a small book store and the pricing and selection at Amazon maybe I'll come back. Just don't hold your breath.
Unlike you who only have snarky statements in support of your friends.
And in your world the sun revolves around Hollywood (and you) so all things bright and beautiful come from Hollywood and to hell with everyone else, to hell with national security none of that matters.
Hollywood's alleged losses of income are primary, their copyrights sacrosanct and they'd never, ever fib about anything much less their tiny contribution to the American economy.
They can buy politicians by the boatload and that's cool with you but if Google dares donate/buy one you're screaming blue murder.
Then again, you come cheap. For free. Oh, sorry, you can't do that can you cause free is always piracy no matter what so you don't come free. Must be that someone gave you a free bag of popcorn fresh from the popcorn plant in payment for your support.
No it isn't working to well as the bill winds is weary way through our appointed Senate.
A number of legal experts up here have pointed out that it will, when challenged (not IF), that it will likely be found to be unconstitutional on a number of points. The best one has been that it will bring "the administration of justice into disrepute" a big no-no under our constitution.
At least the bill doesn't, yet, AFAIK, include silliness like DNS blocking which would have the security folks up here ripping their hair out and yelling, quietly, in committee that they don't want this, can't live with this, that it stinks and to stop it NOW. Usually they get their way on Parliament Hill. Not always for the better. But this time they'd be on the side of the angels.
(You'd probably have to be a native born Canadian to understand how it's possible to yell quietly anywhere but we somehow manage to do it.)
"Services are being created that offer legitimate and legal products to those seeking content, be it consumptive or utilitarian."
I'd watch your wording if I was you. Consumptive and consumption was, and still is, a diagnostic cluster of a number of nasty conditions which include diarrhea, vomiting and other pleasant things all occurring at the same time.
And that doesn't include a really, really, really bad and monstrous hangover.
Just a second, maybe consputive DOES describe Hollywood!
If I wanted to get even pickier that HuffPo is being, according to you, I'd reduce that number even further by cutting out the casual and part-timers in the motion picture industry, who make up the vast majority of people who work on TV and film. Strictly speaking, even at the insanely high end, even that A list actors and directors are casuals.
At the end of the day, even your grabbed from the air "billions" is likely questionable coming, as it does, from the world's centre of creative, questionable sometimes illegal accounting practices.
Removing movie theatres (one of the more infamous homes of minimum wage), retail (WHAT retail?), makers of physical medium and distributors of same (99.999% of which goes towards that other high IP value industry -- tech -- both at the industrial and consumer level who are opposed to all of this silliness) and those who truck the stuff about the continent who aren't dependent on the MPAA or their product and the number of FTE's shrinks even further.
Say to about the verified level of the 0.1% if American GDP, less if you include NAFTA GDP by tossing Canada and Mexico into the mix.
Numbers themselves may be incapable of lying but if the collection of those numbers is a lie all in itself (I could be kind and call it an exaggeration but I'm tired of enabling the RIAA and MPAA and their defenders like you) the result is a lie.
Yes, both industries do employ "a lot" of people but once you examine the numbers and convert them to full time equivalents the number drops off a very large cliff. And outside of the fantasy land called Hollywood employment is measured in full time equivalencies not pumped up with casuals and part timers.
As most internet servers run either BSD or Linux the actual code update would be, compared to Windows, relatively trivial the way 'Nix systems are built. Where the problem comes in is who does what when, adoption through the entire ecosystem and that sort of thing. Along the lines of the XP to Win7 issues you're talking about only with other networking issues on top of that. DNSSEC would also cause, at least in the adoption stage slower connections to new sites which would annoy some people who will immediately complain about it. Certain AC's here come to mind.
And I'm not surprised it's taken 16 years as it's basically a roll-over/roll-across fail safe and would have to be tested and restested 18 different ways come Sunday then tested and retested again.
But heck, Congress and the entertianment industry can toss that out the window because who cares about security when all that matters is Hollywood's money and, ahhhhhhhhhh, deliberate mistruths.
At least the idiots add more than you do. Like intelligence, reason, proficiency and some level of understanding.
You'd just rather stand on the side of the road tossing fresh cowpies and passing cars and complaining about the side splatter when they hit what you through them at.
He's still pissed cause his proposed RFC for the http protocol that said every third data packet has to contain his name, one of his famous wise quotations and a bill for $1 delivered straight to the browser was turned down as being idiotic.
I was kinda thinking they could all be shipped up to a little town called Alert at the northern end of Baffin Island in Arctic Canada. The closest land in Canada to the North Pole.
Summer lasts all of a week or two. Maybe three. So for the rest of the year they could lobby polar bears not to eat them. Might work.
Oh, and to defend at least one of the last mile owners, the telcos, telcos understand networking and the internet. Quite intimately. Almost all modern switches run TCP/IP internally under Linux and then send the information on data streams off the the next switch down the line that way.
Telco's are also responsible for a lot of the backbone infrastructure of the Internet and would prefer that it stay unbroken. Well, except of the accounatcritters who only understand a spreadsheet.
Or convert to voice to sent the ring generator to your house to ring your phone so you can get to listen to spam calls or the messages it leaves.
Actually the folks owning the "last mile" connections, well the accountants anyway, might be okay with it but I can assure you their engineers and technicians are anything but on technical grounds alone.
And as most own and sell cable and/or satellite anyway the accountants won't be too happy when customers decide to ditch on of the suddenly duplicated services!
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The same people and business that used to call me out to fix thier phone or router after they'd dropped it into the toaster oven and not noticed the funny smell.
(You'd be amazed how often I heard variations of that!)
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After all the store is inviting the public in in order to sell them something. The whole trespassing thing skates out on very think ice after that if you're not being disruptive, causing damage or other clearly out of line behaviour.
My first response to such an employee would be to demand to speak to his/her supervisor. For all he knows it may be some architectural detail of the store that I'm wanting the photo of and not their book and I'd like to clear that up with someone in authority if the employee doesn't mind. And the picture I just took was a check shot to test the lighting.
That should waste some more of the employee's time far better put to use actually trying to sell a book. A point I'll happily make to the manager. While explaining that said architectural detail would make a nice backdrop for an ad for them should the shot turn out.
Oh, I see, I have a cell with a camera in it and THAT'S what's not allowed. It could have that Amazon app on it. So if I was photographing with a 35mm like camera body then it'd be fine? This could go on for quite some time.
At the end of said conversation, I'd thank the manager for his/her time and then point to the book in my free hand that I'd already selected to purchase and ask, politely, that it be returned to the shelf as I'm no longer interested in purchasing it from this store and that I'm going elsewhere. And, that, by the way, the elsewhere won't be Amazon as I already checked and they don't have it right now and I need it for my partner's birthday gift and can't wait for them to get it in.
Then I'd consumer more gasoline and inject more carbon into the air and go to another book store that I've checked with and know has it in stock and get it there.
Funny how that would work.
By the way, they can't stop me from taking pictures from a public place, say outside the window on a sidewalk through the window.
Most places would think that I'm just crazy, by the way, and ask if I've taken my meds today rather than toss me out onto the streets. At least I'd get a giggle about that and may even buy the book there as they offered some amusement to me.
In any retail business on or off line remember the customer is god. Retail needs me far more than I need them.
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So, who are they? Huh? Where are all these so called crooks?
I'm starting to wonder if the grain from all the popcorn plants Hollywood sent you isn't mood altering, somehow.
They must all be hiding under your bed or in your closet.
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Re: Why don't restaurants allow you to bring your own food and eat at their tables?
As for the rest of it there are plenty of reasons to patronize the ma and pa places for reasons other than price. Where you can find them after the chains and megastores drove them to the brink long before Amazon walked in with their little phone app.
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Not that comparison shopping, browsing and perhaps a cup of coffee in the corner haven't existed since the first bookstore opened.
There's an industry at risk, dammit!
(Oh, and my best buddy and funding lobbyist from the offended bookstore has had no influence on me whatsoever. None at all. I promise!)
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Someone mentioned a triangle so I'll offer up one of my own. Ma and pa local book stores, by far the best way to shop for a book largely got pushed out of business not by Amazon but by big retail chains.
Around here that's called Chapters/Indigo. Ignorant staff who spend more time socializing than serving customers, the occasional staff pick even if you are left wondering what their meds were when they selected the book and high prices. Nice loss leaders near the front door or the Starbucks (like we need another one of those) renting space in the corner then when you dive in finding the prices on their books actually higher than the ma and pa place you just visited who are at least familiar with what's on their shelves. If anyone is "predatory" it's been that bunch.
I DO support my one local book store who stock rare and used books and is simply a wonderful place to browse and see what I can find. And I've found a few treasures.
In the meantime, back to the chain/megastore it's ironic that I can find more of what I want to read on Amazon and of local interest there than at the megastore. Including, amazingly enough a more up to date road/street/hiking map of the area. The latter being a pastime/practice that's widely done here and brings tourists here. Chapters/Indigo meanwhile, will happily sell you a recent self guided walking tour map, completely up to date, of Toronto where their head office is located but is 3500 miles east of here.
Local ma and pa bookstores, the few that are left, I support. Chains and mega-book-stores I don't. And, it seems to be the latter complaining.
All I can say is so sad, too bad. When you can match the knowledge and customer care of a small book store and the pricing and selection at Amazon maybe I'll come back. Just don't hold your breath.
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Just do your best to avoid the drool. I understand it's infectious and attacks critical areas of the brain such as reasoning, morality and honesty.
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And in your world the sun revolves around Hollywood (and you) so all things bright and beautiful come from Hollywood and to hell with everyone else, to hell with national security none of that matters.
Hollywood's alleged losses of income are primary, their copyrights sacrosanct and they'd never, ever fib about anything much less their tiny contribution to the American economy.
They can buy politicians by the boatload and that's cool with you but if Google dares donate/buy one you're screaming blue murder.
Then again, you come cheap. For free. Oh, sorry, you can't do that can you cause free is always piracy no matter what so you don't come free. Must be that someone gave you a free bag of popcorn fresh from the popcorn plant in payment for your support.
Have nice day.
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A number of legal experts up here have pointed out that it will, when challenged (not IF), that it will likely be found to be unconstitutional on a number of points. The best one has been that it will bring "the administration of justice into disrepute" a big no-no under our constitution.
At least the bill doesn't, yet, AFAIK, include silliness like DNS blocking which would have the security folks up here ripping their hair out and yelling, quietly, in committee that they don't want this, can't live with this, that it stinks and to stop it NOW. Usually they get their way on Parliament Hill. Not always for the better. But this time they'd be on the side of the angels.
(You'd probably have to be a native born Canadian to understand how it's possible to yell quietly anywhere but we somehow manage to do it.)
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Re: I'd watch your use of words, if I were you.
I'd watch your wording if I was you. Consumptive and consumption was, and still is, a diagnostic cluster of a number of nasty conditions which include diarrhea, vomiting and other pleasant things all occurring at the same time.
And that doesn't include a really, really, really bad and monstrous hangover.
Just a second, maybe consputive DOES describe Hollywood!
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At the end of the day, even your grabbed from the air "billions" is likely questionable coming, as it does, from the world's centre of creative, questionable sometimes illegal accounting practices.
Removing movie theatres (one of the more infamous homes of minimum wage), retail (WHAT retail?), makers of physical medium and distributors of same (99.999% of which goes towards that other high IP value industry -- tech -- both at the industrial and consumer level who are opposed to all of this silliness) and those who truck the stuff about the continent who aren't dependent on the MPAA or their product and the number of FTE's shrinks even further.
Say to about the verified level of the 0.1% if American GDP, less if you include NAFTA GDP by tossing Canada and Mexico into the mix.
Numbers themselves may be incapable of lying but if the collection of those numbers is a lie all in itself (I could be kind and call it an exaggeration but I'm tired of enabling the RIAA and MPAA and their defenders like you) the result is a lie.
Yes, both industries do employ "a lot" of people but once you examine the numbers and convert them to full time equivalents the number drops off a very large cliff. And outside of the fantasy land called Hollywood employment is measured in full time equivalencies not pumped up with casuals and part timers.
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And I'm not surprised it's taken 16 years as it's basically a roll-over/roll-across fail safe and would have to be tested and restested 18 different ways come Sunday then tested and retested again.
But heck, Congress and the entertianment industry can toss that out the window because who cares about security when all that matters is Hollywood's money and, ahhhhhhhhhh, deliberate mistruths.
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Re: Re: Don't forget "Citation needed." That seems to be the latest troll favorite when they can't come up with a substantive argument.
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You'd just rather stand on the side of the road tossing fresh cowpies and passing cars and complaining about the side splatter when they hit what you through them at.
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Summer lasts all of a week or two. Maybe three. So for the rest of the year they could lobby polar bears not to eat them. Might work.
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Telco's are also responsible for a lot of the backbone infrastructure of the Internet and would prefer that it stay unbroken. Well, except of the accounatcritters who only understand a spreadsheet.
Or convert to voice to sent the ring generator to your house to ring your phone so you can get to listen to spam calls or the messages it leaves.
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And as most own and sell cable and/or satellite anyway the accountants won't be too happy when customers decide to ditch on of the suddenly duplicated services!
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