Exactly! Except the expletives to make your sorry point. Its more like:
wow thanks man it will help greatly, but you know, what I really need is a plumber to stop the flow of water; can you help me, or do you know others that will?
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"with two rage-filled comments full of insults and exclamation points." TROLLS BEWARE WE HAVE A NEW CONTENDER.
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All the fucked up shit that is going on; jail-breaking and mix tapes are the target? Really? REALLY!!!!
Bhaaaa bhaaaa bhaaa. We deserve what we get.
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weneedhelp (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:23am
Its flippin sad that the process that brought us SOPA/PIPA and all the other crap is just being ignored. But as long as the sheep can crack their phones and game consoles its ok. Unbelievable. Not even noon and my blood is boiling. ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
Rage filled? full of insults? and 8 !'s. Yeah ok marcus. Put the pipe down, its rotting your brain. Seriously man quit the shit it will kill ya.
"what you are saying" WTF? You and Marcus doing bong hits together today? Please explain to me where you got that from this:
It seems we are fractured and EFF is a central point of contact and I believe, it is my opinion, I feel, just to make that clear, that we could do much more productive effective things by taking it up a notch. And all of it boils back down to the process in which these things get passed. Stop that, and the effects will vanish.
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Its not trivial, its just a game of whack-a-mole without addressing the underlying issue. You do see that?
Hypothetical:
We get the laws changed to allow non-profit use of everything. Then there will be back room deal to chip away at that little by little, on top of all the other back deals to continue to erode our freedoms. Cat and mouse. Whereas if we address the issue of closed proceedings, pay for legislation, and the lobbying efforts that border on (to be nice) bribery, nothing will change. It will be the same old same old, and I have been watching this kind of crap for far too long now. I see an opportunity slipping away. Why? [Looking at this from the outside] Because those damn Internets just want to be able to copy our stuff. You know they will be saying that.(Not word for word, but close)
"Not really sure why." Really? You must not be as smart as you think then.
"Why do you get to decide how far is far enough, and how far isn't?"
I'm sure I answered this elsewhere, but I have a couple, so I will address it again. I don't, Period. I don't see where I gave you the impression that I did. What i suggested were my OPINIONS & SUGGESTIONS. That is all. You took off on a tangent with assumptions and accusations that would make the best trolls on here envious.
"Why do you get to decide how far is far enough, and how far isn't?" As a member of this Republic I have a right to speak my mind and offer my opinion and feelings, and you have the right to disagree.
Marcus Carab (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 10:27am
Some people are naturally abrasive and may not realize the way they word things, but I dont think Marcus falls in that category. He knows exactly the way he crafts his words.
"clearly I have offended you. Not really sure why." Sell it to someone else Marcus.
It seems we are fractured and EFF is a central point of contact and I believe, it is my opinion, I feel, just to make that clear, that we could do much more productive effective things by taking it up a notch. And all of it boils back down to the process in which these things get passed. Stop that, and the effects will vanish.
Gee my basement is flooded, lemme just get a sub pump. Call a plumber to actually fix the leak? Nah.
I am flattered you think I have such influence by posting here on TD. I offered my suggestion/opinion, and how/where I FEEL they should go. You disagree with it? Im ok with that.
So, Marcus, is it your position that going after the Mix/jail is more important than the process?
"You are claiming that YOU get to decide how far is not far enough, and how far is the correct amount." - Whew, man, can I have some of what you are smoking? Must be some Cali killer. See the whole suggestion/opinion thing.
So after going back through my posts I have come to the conclusion that Marcus Carab is out of his fucking mind. You inject a lot of assumptions that quite frankly I cant figure out where it comes from other than a drug induced haze. It has troll written all over it.
Ahhh Marcus, Marcus, Marcus. I offered MY OPINION.
I'm telling you there are ALWAYS bigger problems. - Well thank you captain obvious. I didn't know that. /s
It is MY OPINION that much more can/should be done. All they are doing is fueling the freetard fire for the industry to say see, all they want is to copy our stuff. Now if we were going after the process, it gives the appearance of having a righteous cause, and it is. I believe copyright is out of hand as well and it appears to me that, all they want is to copy our stuff is the case, and I know better. Imagine those who dont, and how the industry will spin this.
So Mr. Carab, do you believe that going after the effect is better than stopping the cause? Subject does not matter.
What an asshole. You dont have many friends do you? All im saying is while the momentum is in the direction it is, take it a step further and address the real issue of back room dealings, and the process that brought it to us.
You have a problem with that? Or just me? It is rhetorical, no need to answer, we all know the answer.
Mr asshole,
"you reach the ridiculous conclusion that everybody in the world must focus on the world's worst problem any given time" - WOW you must have creskin like abilities to reach that conclusion from what I said. Never did I imply or suggest that. Keep off the drugs they are distorting your reality. You would make a good troll.(Oxymoron I know)
I reached the conclusion that gathering a mass of people to try and get jailbreaking and mixtapes legal is a waste of good resources that will eventually vanish, when they could be using the resources to go after the cause not the effect.
We will then be the ones playing whack-a-troll.
Its OK Mr. Crab, I know if I said the sky was blue you would argue me to the death saying its something else. Kiss kiss.
I know it is not the only thing they are doing, it was them that made me aware in the first place. My point, and maybe I did not make myself clear enough, is that while the momentum is on our side, use it wisely, because it will not last long. Silly me for wanting to maximize the effort to things that really matter. I do not think mixtapes and jailbreaking are a higher priority than the corruption that brings forth the laws that make above mentioned acts illegal. It's like putting out secondary fires while leaving the burning inferno going. Tell the guy that is detained and tortured without a trial, or even the right to know what he is accused of:
Its ok dude you can jailbreak your IPhone and make mixtapes. I am sure that will make him/her feel better.
It is the process of back room deals and bought and paid for politicians that is the problem. While you have this many peoples' attention, don't waste it on petty little things like jailbreaking, and mixtapes. Because if they do get the revisions they ask for, i believe, a great number of ppl will drop out because that's all they really care about. They will get their little inch while in the back rooms they will be chipping away, I believe, a provision at a time added to unrelated legislation to reach their goal. I just think they should be aiming higher up the ladder.
Its flippin sad that the process that brought us SOPA/PIPA and all the other crap is just being ignored. But as long as the sheep can crack their phones and game consoles its ok. Unbelievable. Not even noon and my blood is boiling. ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
What's amazing about this policy is that it seems to provide the exact opposite incentives of what WB should want
No no, it is exactly what they want. They need the pie-rate boogeyman to justify... well all the crap they spew about losses. Just like Terrorism, and Communism before that. Boo!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dDidZZN7KI
Someone posted this a couple days back and I didnt see any comments about it. Any thoughts... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc
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wow thanks man it will help greatly, but you know, what I really need is a plumber to stop the flow of water; can you help me, or do you know others that will?
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Comment1)
All the fucked up shit that is going on; jail-breaking and mix tapes are the target? Really? REALLY!!!!
Bhaaaa bhaaaa bhaaa. We deserve what we get.
Comment2)
weneedhelp (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 7:23am
Its flippin sad that the process that brought us SOPA/PIPA and all the other crap is just being ignored. But as long as the sheep can crack their phones and game consoles its ok. Unbelievable. Not even noon and my blood is boiling. ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
Rage filled? full of insults? and 8 !'s. Yeah ok marcus. Put the pipe down, its rotting your brain. Seriously man quit the shit it will kill ya.
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It seems we are fractured and EFF is a central point of contact and I believe, it is my opinion, I feel, just to make that clear, that we could do much more productive effective things by taking it up a notch. And all of it boils back down to the process in which these things get passed. Stop that, and the effects will vanish.
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You just come off as a snarky asshole really.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120124/03263517521/infographic-showing-just-how-frequent ly-hollywood-has-cried-wolf-about-piracy.shtml#c325
It may not be your fault, we all have personality flaws to overcome, but I dont believe that to be so. Ive read some of your other things and as I said before, you craft you words carefully. You know exactly how you write it.
"You are clearly way too angry to have a rational discussion here." Not angry. Where did you get that? I just plain dont like you. No mystery there.
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Hypothetical:
We get the laws changed to allow non-profit use of everything. Then there will be back room deal to chip away at that little by little, on top of all the other back deals to continue to erode our freedoms. Cat and mouse. Whereas if we address the issue of closed proceedings, pay for legislation, and the lobbying efforts that border on (to be nice) bribery, nothing will change. It will be the same old same old, and I have been watching this kind of crap for far too long now. I see an opportunity slipping away. Why? [Looking at this from the outside] Because those damn Internets just want to be able to copy our stuff. You know they will be saying that.(Not word for word, but close)
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"Why do you get to decide how far is far enough, and how far isn't?"
I'm sure I answered this elsewhere, but I have a couple, so I will address it again. I don't, Period. I don't see where I gave you the impression that I did. What i suggested were my OPINIONS & SUGGESTIONS. That is all. You took off on a tangent with assumptions and accusations that would make the best trolls on here envious.
"Why do you get to decide how far is far enough, and how far isn't?" As a member of this Republic I have a right to speak my mind and offer my opinion and feelings, and you have the right to disagree.
Marcus Carab (profile), Feb 1st, 2012 @ 10:27am
Some people are naturally abrasive and may not realize the way they word things, but I dont think Marcus falls in that category. He knows exactly the way he crafts his words.
"clearly I have offended you. Not really sure why." Sell it to someone else Marcus.
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Gee my basement is flooded, lemme just get a sub pump. Call a plumber to actually fix the leak? Nah.
Thanks you Mr. Knight.
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So, Marcus, is it your position that going after the Mix/jail is more important than the process?
"You are claiming that YOU get to decide how far is not far enough, and how far is the correct amount." - Whew, man, can I have some of what you are smoking? Must be some Cali killer. See the whole suggestion/opinion thing.
So after going back through my posts I have come to the conclusion that Marcus Carab is out of his fucking mind. You inject a lot of assumptions that quite frankly I cant figure out where it comes from other than a drug induced haze. It has troll written all over it.
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I'm telling you there are ALWAYS bigger problems. - Well thank you captain obvious. I didn't know that. /s
It is MY OPINION that much more can/should be done. All they are doing is fueling the freetard fire for the industry to say see, all they want is to copy our stuff. Now if we were going after the process, it gives the appearance of having a righteous cause, and it is. I believe copyright is out of hand as well and it appears to me that, all they want is to copy our stuff is the case, and I know better. Imagine those who dont, and how the industry will spin this.
So Mr. Carab, do you believe that going after the effect is better than stopping the cause? Subject does not matter.
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You have a problem with that? Or just me? It is rhetorical, no need to answer, we all know the answer.
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"you reach the ridiculous conclusion that everybody in the world must focus on the world's worst problem any given time" - WOW you must have creskin like abilities to reach that conclusion from what I said. Never did I imply or suggest that. Keep off the drugs they are distorting your reality. You would make a good troll.(Oxymoron I know)
I reached the conclusion that gathering a mass of people to try and get jailbreaking and mixtapes legal is a waste of good resources that will eventually vanish, when they could be using the resources to go after the cause not the effect.
We will then be the ones playing whack-a-troll.
Its OK Mr. Crab, I know if I said the sky was blue you would argue me to the death saying its something else. Kiss kiss.
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Its ok dude you can jailbreak your IPhone and make mixtapes. I am sure that will make him/her feel better.
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Re: But the content producers know what happens when you had out ripping tools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc
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They should be allowed to have chickens though. Ever had an omlet from freshly picked eggs? YUM!
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Bhaaaa bhaaaa bhaaa. We deserve what we get.
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What's amazing about this policy is that it seems to provide the exact opposite incentives of what WB should want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dDidZZN7KI
Someone posted this a couple days back and I didnt see any comments about it. Any thoughts...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc
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