1. you KNOW that if it was masters of the universe on wall street getting stopped-n-frisked, that policy wouldn't last a day... (i bet they would find a LOT Of illegal drugs, guns and money on those pukes...)
2. as it is, the ONE thing i 'like' about the program, is how the ACTUAL STATISTICS bear out that it is a useless exercise, it is fraught with racisim/classism, and that white people are MORE LIKELY to have drugs/weapons on them... funny those factoids are ignored...
3. officer donut is about 8-10 times more likely to kill a citizen than al qaeda; by that logic, shouldn't kops be eliminated ? ? ?
4. the OVERWHELMING majority of donut eaters do not have reason to pull their guns IN THEIR CAREERS... *AND* there are PLENTY more professions which have a much higher rate of on-the-job murders, including lowly retail clerks, cabbies (the worst), and firefighters...
the kops aren't the threatened ones, WE ARE...
officer friendly my ass...
again, the thin blue line does NOT protect us li'l peeps (except incidentally), it is to keep us rabble in line...
that virtually NONE of them step up and call out their fellow pigs they KNOW are corrupt, tells me they are ALL CORRUPT... that principle applies to us li'l peeps, why not to them ? ? ?
yes, excellent quote, been a while since i heard that one...
it is a companion aphorism to the other major point about speech i like to make: CONTEXT is everything...
surely, nothing could be more 'nice' than saying someone is 'pretty' and you'd like to 'kiss' them...
unless you are in a biker bar and it is one hetero dude taunting another hetero dude...
surely, nothing could be more 'obscene' than a string of disgusting expletives about yo' mama in the face of another...
unless it is your buds and you've been drinking and someone just made a lucky shot...
it would only be the already hugely famous works/authors who would be noticed (IF THEY ARE) when they go awol; 'minor' or unknown authors/works might not be noticed by anyone...
geez, just one in a series of a million reasons why such 'filtering' (read: CENSORSHIP) will be HARMFUL to society...
the thing is, i truly believe The They (tm) WANT to 'harm' us, in that keeping us as stupid, clueless, and ignorant as possible suits THEIR agenda...
Re: Re: Re: best post I have read on the current state of affairs
well, that was only slightly off-topic, BUT, i -for one- appreciate the headsup...
i have experienced much the same, and it wasn't that long between using the mower or chainsaw, yet they are gummed up in the carb like someone dumped a bag of candy in it...
...which is effectively what is happening...
keeps the small engine people in bidness, i guess...
thanks for info
maybe, maybe not...
here is the thing: *at least* ONE mission the alphabet spooks have accomplished, is to make *everyone* JUSTIFIABLY paranoid...
that serves the ends of The They in keeping us divided and afraid...
it might also be that -like using encryption, whether innocuous or not- doing something like that (setting up your own server, etc) automagically flags you as some sort of weirdo nerd subversive commie pinko tea baggin' survivalist proto-terrorist...
the reason we have to spy on you here, is so we can spy on them there... or something like that...
like some columnist pointed out the other day: we ONLY 'know' that little that Manning, Snowden, Kiriakou, etc have either had access to, or filtered out under other criteria, etc: WHAT about the OTHER 99% of immoral crap we *STILL* don't know, not to mention the 'unknown unknowns' ? ? ?
who knows, maybe the neo-tarbaby -nine one one- might be involved in all these convulsions by Empire to crush any/all whistleblowers / patriots...
who knows, indeed: all i know is, we don't know 1/100th the shit done in our names, with our money...
yep, exactly...
wife and i are medium sports fans, for a variety of sports, from nfl, college football, gymnastics, track and field, volleyball, tennis, etc...
that has been the only thing that tied us to our dish network; but service has gotten crappy, and we've gotten to the point where mostly-shit teevee is not 'worth it'...
even though they rig their stupid bundles such that we won't save a lot, that is almost beside the point... they pissed me off a long time ago, but she has probably gotten even more pissed off than me in trying to deal with them recently...
so, we got an antenna, we got hulu+, and we are waving bye-bye to dish/cable/etc...
couldn't happen to a nice bunch of blood-sucking parasites...
we citizens can NOT simply emplace a system of government that has good, basic, checks and balances to restrain unwise actions on behalf of the people; then walk away and let it go on auto-pilot, leaving it to 'the pros', allowing it to devolve into a hypocritical shadow of itself, a secretive, sick, self-parody with tragic consequences to the planet...
The Price of Freedom IS Eternal Vigilance.
the monied puppetmasters and the infinitely rich, practically immortal, immensely immoral, legal-fictions we call corporations, have more rights and power than all mere citizens combined...
one dollar, one vote rules; not one person, one vote...
they've stolen our very personhood and perverted it to their service...
The Price of Freedom is ETERNAL Vigilance.
who has been watching the watchers, indeed...
no one; and THAT is a fundamental violation of ANY and ALL precepts that a functioning small-dee democracy needs to survive, if not thrive... everyone watching everyone; and NO one with the morals to say 'Have you no shame?'...
The Price of Freedom is Eternal VIGILANCE.
what do us mere sheeple see but what little we are allowed to see ? ? ? barring a few brave and steadfast few who let us peep behind the curtain on occasion...
usually, it just confirms our worst, most paranoid speculations...
...and isn't that gratifying...
The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance.
we got brothers and sisters trying to be vigilant in madison wisconsin, where proto-brownshirts are aborning...
brothers and sisters in tallahassee florida won't be swayed by empty platitudes of a swindling pol...
a lot more of us need to be vigilant, ain't nobody else gonna do it for us...
2. don't have any knowledge of what the proposed 'fair use' laws are constituting over there, but 'fair use' doesn't mean schools/etc can use a book in toto, over here...
articles, etc may be copied whole for educational purposes, but books ?
*unless* it is already a digital version that is being used, it is almost always more expensive to make a *copy* of a book, than to buy the original book outright...
i am skeptical any significant percentage of schools/kids are using ebooks exclusively -excepting some rich school districts, and -evidently- los angeles starting next year- as the only method of class reading...
although -now that i think of it- *aside* from stupid DRM tricks, publishers gouging schools, etc, that would be a great idea: instead of thousands and thousands of physical copies of books, taking up warehouses, having to be physically moved, repaired, inventoried, etc, etc, etc...
issue an ereader for every kid (or, hell, i'm not even that adverse to making it a school equipment requirement: back in the day, you were required to buy calculators, etc which were MORE expensive than ereaders are these days), and ALL their books are in that one 'container', moving them around is a matter of a couple clicks, updating is easy (if the publishers don't rip you off), no warehouses, no forklifts, no ratty, doodled on copies, no tons of books to recycle every year, etc...
i'm not one for giving high tech crap to kids just for the gee whiz factor, but the more i think of this, the better an idea (if obvious) it seems to be...
i'm sure the publishers/authors would scream, so they would set the prices so high, it wouldn't be worth it...
damn, i sure remember carrying a half dozen heavy books back and forth for years, versus one itty bitty reader ?
now *that* sounds like a great use of the tech to me...
but i guess since some entitled cohort won't like it, it will be decades before that obvious use is practically allowed...
one of our major problems in a nutshell: draconian consequences for you and me in the 99% for copying bits, eating pop tarts in the shape of a gun, or, well WHATEVER the fuck they want to jack us up for today (the criminalization of living); but scumbags who betray the constitution, steal the wealth of the country, lie with impunity, get nothing but cushy jobs and medals of freedom...
Re: Re: Re: Why, it's getting so can't even trust Microsoft!
you will not find anyone against censorship more than i am; HOWEVER, OOTB has EARNED his auto-reporting over many, many, many slimy posts... i don't agree with it, but he has no one to blame but himself for pissing off a large portion of the community repeatedly...
his signal to noise ratio is not worth the effort...
(oh, and i *do* call this a *form* of censorship, albeit about as inoffensive as can be imagined...)
i like the commenting/reporting system at slashdot, which not only downgrades the obvious trolls, but generally 'rates' the comments in a semi-fair manner, such that ALL the fluff (whether trollish, off-topic, repetitive, or simply stupid) can be 'hidden' if that is how you set your level of surfing slashdot...
oh, but they *could* have turned this into a media circus, IF THEY WERE SO INCLINED...
they can take ANY non-story and puff it up to ridiculous heights, so they *could* have turned this HUGE story into a ratings chase, IF THEY WERE SO INCLINED...
but the cowardly pukes know what Empire wants, THAT is why they won't go there...
oh, it gets even worse:
just read a brief article on the raw story which pointed out another couple egregious actions on the part of the scumbag authorities:
1. persecutor got pissed when Aaron tried to stand up for himself and the Demand Progress petition got circulated...
in other words, the fucker didn't 'like' that was happening, and *THAT'S* when they went full bull-goose looney on Aaron, 'cause he was embarrassed... fucking pricks
2. as you point out, the WHOLE CASE hinged on 'unauthorized' access, but MIT NEVER WAS ASKED SPECIFICALLY what the technical ins-and-outs of that was, AND apparently their 'policy' TOS bullshit is NOT entirely clear on that point either...
3. MIT spent MORE on responding to the persecutors than they did on the actual 'hack' (sic) (in fact, i bet they didn't REALLY spend anything at all: it was probably nerds on salary who didn't get paid any extra, just their normal wage, whether they were examining logs, or doing their normal pron surfing...
oh, and to top it off, when MIT was concerned with how their rep was being tarnished, blah blah blah, the persecutor blamed *that* on Aaron too, in that if only he had plead guilty guilty guilty, all the adverse publicity could have been avoided...
fuckers, stand up for your rights against the feds, and they get vindictive...
dog damn i hates my (sic) gummint...
the aiding the enemy charge was a red herring: she kept that on the table knowing she ain't gonna convict on it, *then* when you not-guilty it, you are so-o-o-o humane...
*and* -as i just read, i think it was norman solomon- she then makes the charges of 'giving inconvenient truths to the amerikan people and practicing actual journalism' a crime against The State, seem almost reasonable...
all in all, a travesty of justice, and the fears and insecurities of Empire being visited upon a lone truth-teller, too honest and stubborn and heroic to let a monstrous, murderous, mutated system imprison his mind, heart, and soul...
Bradley Manning has my utmost respect for his self-sacrifice against the might of Empire.
He can only be repaid by taking our democracy to heel.
A sad, horrific day for The Grand Experiment which has born a Frankenstein... i weep for amerika, Bradley gets my admiration and respect...
got a new drill/driver set a couple months back, and the difference between the ability to hold a charge, and how much power it has from the 'old' batteries on the same brand drill/driver, and the new lithium-ion ones is INCREDIBLE...
(in fact, got them 'cause new lithium-ions would fit old drill/driver bodies too, so didn't have to junk old tools...)
i hate to sound like a shill (not mentioning brand, which i'm very happy with), but i have been blown away by the difference...
old batteries fully charged would hardly last 3-4 days if they sat out in the shed; lithium-ion ones will last for MONTHS after charging and sitting out in the shed, and still have the *oomph* to get work done...
(mind you, it is not like it is a fresh charge, ready to drill a hundred holes through 4" oak, but it has enough juice to get a handful of tasks done, then set it aside, and it will still have enough juice weeks later to do some more...)
i'm not easy to impress, but i've gotta say the new, half-the size, but twice the power lithium-ions are pretty impressive performers...
On the post: Prenda Lawyer Would Like Future Documents Sealed Because Techdirt Commenters Said Mean Stuff About Him
Re: Re: Comments
you are correct that it *HELPS* your case to record your copyright before suing, but i'm not sure it is required...
IANAL, thank dog...
On the post: Prenda Lawyer Would Like Future Documents Sealed Because Techdirt Commenters Said Mean Stuff About Him
Re: Re:
thanks
On the post: Annoyed NY Mayor Attacks Court Decision On Stop And Frisk With Condescension And Hyperbole
Re: Ethics 101
2. as it is, the ONE thing i 'like' about the program, is how the ACTUAL STATISTICS bear out that it is a useless exercise, it is fraught with racisim/classism, and that white people are MORE LIKELY to have drugs/weapons on them... funny those factoids are ignored...
3. officer donut is about 8-10 times more likely to kill a citizen than al qaeda; by that logic, shouldn't kops be eliminated ? ? ?
4. the OVERWHELMING majority of donut eaters do not have reason to pull their guns IN THEIR CAREERS... *AND* there are PLENTY more professions which have a much higher rate of on-the-job murders, including lowly retail clerks, cabbies (the worst), and firefighters...
the kops aren't the threatened ones, WE ARE...
officer friendly my ass...
again, the thin blue line does NOT protect us li'l peeps (except incidentally), it is to keep us rabble in line...
that virtually NONE of them step up and call out their fellow pigs they KNOW are corrupt, tells me they are ALL CORRUPT... that principle applies to us li'l peeps, why not to them ? ? ?
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: British Library Network Blocks 'Hamlet' For 'Violent Content'
Re:
it is a companion aphorism to the other major point about speech i like to make: CONTEXT is everything...
surely, nothing could be more 'nice' than saying someone is 'pretty' and you'd like to 'kiss' them...
unless you are in a biker bar and it is one hetero dude taunting another hetero dude...
surely, nothing could be more 'obscene' than a string of disgusting expletives about yo' mama in the face of another...
unless it is your buds and you've been drinking and someone just made a lucky shot...
CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING
there are no 'bad' words, just small minds...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: British Library Network Blocks 'Hamlet' For 'Violent Content'
Re: The bigger point
it would only be the already hugely famous works/authors who would be noticed (IF THEY ARE) when they go awol; 'minor' or unknown authors/works might not be noticed by anyone...
geez, just one in a series of a million reasons why such 'filtering' (read: CENSORSHIP) will be HARMFUL to society...
the thing is, i truly believe The They (tm) WANT to 'harm' us, in that keeping us as stupid, clueless, and ignorant as possible suits THEIR agenda...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Jennifer Hoelzer's Insider's View Of The Administration's Response To NSA Surveillance Leaks
Re: Re: Re: best post I have read on the current state of affairs
i have experienced much the same, and it wasn't that long between using the mower or chainsaw, yet they are gummed up in the carb like someone dumped a bag of candy in it...
...which is effectively what is happening...
keeps the small engine people in bidness, i guess...
thanks for info
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Awesome Stuff: Bring The Cloud Back Home
Re:
here is the thing: *at least* ONE mission the alphabet spooks have accomplished, is to make *everyone* JUSTIFIABLY paranoid...
that serves the ends of The They in keeping us divided and afraid...
it might also be that -like using encryption, whether innocuous or not- doing something like that (setting up your own server, etc) automagically flags you as some sort of weirdo nerd subversive commie pinko tea baggin' survivalist proto-terrorist...
the reason we have to spy on you here, is so we can spy on them there... or something like that...
like some columnist pointed out the other day: we ONLY 'know' that little that Manning, Snowden, Kiriakou, etc have either had access to, or filtered out under other criteria, etc: WHAT about the OTHER 99% of immoral crap we *STILL* don't know, not to mention the 'unknown unknowns' ? ? ?
who knows, maybe the neo-tarbaby -nine one one- might be involved in all these convulsions by Empire to crush any/all whistleblowers / patriots...
who knows, indeed: all i know is, we don't know 1/100th the shit done in our names, with our money...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
On the post: Pace Of Cord Cutting Continues To Quicken
Re: Re: spot on, fog
wife and i are medium sports fans, for a variety of sports, from nfl, college football, gymnastics, track and field, volleyball, tennis, etc...
that has been the only thing that tied us to our dish network; but service has gotten crappy, and we've gotten to the point where mostly-shit teevee is not 'worth it'...
even though they rig their stupid bundles such that we won't save a lot, that is almost beside the point... they pissed me off a long time ago, but she has probably gotten even more pissed off than me in trying to deal with them recently...
so, we got an antenna, we got hulu+, and we are waving bye-bye to dish/cable/etc...
couldn't happen to a nice bunch of blood-sucking parasites...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Civil Rights Leader And Congressman John Lewis Says Ed Snowden Latest In The Line From Thoreau To Gandhi To King
Re: Re:
we citizens can NOT simply emplace a system of government that has good, basic, checks and balances to restrain unwise actions on behalf of the people; then walk away and let it go on auto-pilot, leaving it to 'the pros', allowing it to devolve into a hypocritical shadow of itself, a secretive, sick, self-parody with tragic consequences to the planet...
The Price of Freedom IS Eternal Vigilance.
the monied puppetmasters and the infinitely rich, practically immortal, immensely immoral, legal-fictions we call corporations, have more rights and power than all mere citizens combined...
one dollar, one vote rules; not one person, one vote...
they've stolen our very personhood and perverted it to their service...
The Price of Freedom is ETERNAL Vigilance.
who has been watching the watchers, indeed...
no one; and THAT is a fundamental violation of ANY and ALL precepts that a functioning small-dee democracy needs to survive, if not thrive... everyone watching everyone; and NO one with the morals to say 'Have you no shame?'...
The Price of Freedom is Eternal VIGILANCE.
what do us mere sheeple see but what little we are allowed to see ? ? ? barring a few brave and steadfast few who let us peep behind the curtain on occasion...
usually, it just confirms our worst, most paranoid speculations...
...and isn't that gratifying...
The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance.
we got brothers and sisters trying to be vigilant in madison wisconsin, where proto-brownshirts are aborning...
brothers and sisters in tallahassee florida won't be swayed by empty platitudes of a swindling pol...
a lot more of us need to be vigilant, ain't nobody else gonna do it for us...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Charles Carreon Having Some Difficulties Trying To Represent His Wife In Court Over Copyright Infringement Claims
Re: Re: Re: Calm down and breath...
got it, just another brick in the wall...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Now That It's Been Exposed, DOJ Plans To 'Review' Information Sharing With DEA
Re: So...
its good to be the king,
but its incredible to be the emperor...
dog damn, i hate these fuckers so much...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: NSA Boss & Defenders Insist NSA Can't Abuse Surveillance Systems; Forgets To Mention It Already Has
here is an immutable law of human nature:
i don't care where it is, i don't care who it is, ANY secret institution WILL BE CORRUPTED, sooner or later, probably sooner...
that goes DOUBLE for agencies *intended* to be secret, and quadruple for gummint institutions NOT amenable to virtually ANY effective oversight...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Author Claims That 'Fair Use Is Theft By Any Other Name'
Re: Australian context
2. don't have any knowledge of what the proposed 'fair use' laws are constituting over there, but 'fair use' doesn't mean schools/etc can use a book in toto, over here...
articles, etc may be copied whole for educational purposes, but books ?
*unless* it is already a digital version that is being used, it is almost always more expensive to make a *copy* of a book, than to buy the original book outright...
i am skeptical any significant percentage of schools/kids are using ebooks exclusively -excepting some rich school districts, and -evidently- los angeles starting next year- as the only method of class reading...
although -now that i think of it- *aside* from stupid DRM tricks, publishers gouging schools, etc, that would be a great idea: instead of thousands and thousands of physical copies of books, taking up warehouses, having to be physically moved, repaired, inventoried, etc, etc, etc...
issue an ereader for every kid (or, hell, i'm not even that adverse to making it a school equipment requirement: back in the day, you were required to buy calculators, etc which were MORE expensive than ereaders are these days), and ALL their books are in that one 'container', moving them around is a matter of a couple clicks, updating is easy (if the publishers don't rip you off), no warehouses, no forklifts, no ratty, doodled on copies, no tons of books to recycle every year, etc...
i'm not one for giving high tech crap to kids just for the gee whiz factor, but the more i think of this, the better an idea (if obvious) it seems to be...
i'm sure the publishers/authors would scream, so they would set the prices so high, it wouldn't be worth it...
damn, i sure remember carrying a half dozen heavy books back and forth for years, versus one itty bitty reader ?
now *that* sounds like a great use of the tech to me...
but i guess since some entitled cohort won't like it, it will be decades before that obvious use is practically allowed...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: DOJ Tells Senator Wyden That Incoming FBI Director James Comey Has No Intention Of Answering His Questions
Re: Re:
one of our major problems in a nutshell: draconian consequences for you and me in the 99% for copying bits, eating pop tarts in the shape of a gun, or, well WHATEVER the fuck they want to jack us up for today (the criminalization of living); but scumbags who betray the constitution, steal the wealth of the country, lie with impunity, get nothing but cushy jobs and medals of freedom...
world gone crazy...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Yes, The NSA Has Always Hated Encryption
Re: Re: Re: Why, it's getting so can't even trust Microsoft!
his signal to noise ratio is not worth the effort...
(oh, and i *do* call this a *form* of censorship, albeit about as inoffensive as can be imagined...)
i like the commenting/reporting system at slashdot, which not only downgrades the obvious trolls, but generally 'rates' the comments in a semi-fair manner, such that ALL the fluff (whether trollish, off-topic, repetitive, or simply stupid) can be 'hidden' if that is how you set your level of surfing slashdot...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Cable News Networks 'Grant' Manning Verdict A Whole Five Minutes Of Coverage
Re: Show me the ratings
they can take ANY non-story and puff it up to ridiculous heights, so they *could* have turned this HUGE story into a ratings chase, IF THEY WERE SO INCLINED...
but the cowardly pukes know what Empire wants, THAT is why they won't go there...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: MIT Defends Its 'Neutral' Stance On Aaron Swartz As 'Reasonable' Even As It Failed To Understand Importance Of The Case
Re:
just read a brief article on the raw story which pointed out another couple egregious actions on the part of the scumbag authorities:
1. persecutor got pissed when Aaron tried to stand up for himself and the Demand Progress petition got circulated...
in other words, the fucker didn't 'like' that was happening, and *THAT'S* when they went full bull-goose looney on Aaron, 'cause he was embarrassed... fucking pricks
2. as you point out, the WHOLE CASE hinged on 'unauthorized' access, but MIT NEVER WAS ASKED SPECIFICALLY what the technical ins-and-outs of that was, AND apparently their 'policy' TOS bullshit is NOT entirely clear on that point either...
3. MIT spent MORE on responding to the persecutors than they did on the actual 'hack' (sic) (in fact, i bet they didn't REALLY spend anything at all: it was probably nerds on salary who didn't get paid any extra, just their normal wage, whether they were examining logs, or doing their normal pron surfing...
oh, and to top it off, when MIT was concerned with how their rep was being tarnished, blah blah blah, the persecutor blamed *that* on Aaron too, in that if only he had plead guilty guilty guilty, all the adverse publicity could have been avoided...
fuckers, stand up for your rights against the feds, and they get vindictive...
dog damn i hates my (sic) gummint...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Bradley Manning Found Not Guilty Of Aiding The Enemy But Convicted On Other Charges
Re: Re: So...
*and* -as i just read, i think it was norman solomon- she then makes the charges of 'giving inconvenient truths to the amerikan people and practicing actual journalism' a crime against The State, seem almost reasonable...
all in all, a travesty of justice, and the fears and insecurities of Empire being visited upon a lone truth-teller, too honest and stubborn and heroic to let a monstrous, murderous, mutated system imprison his mind, heart, and soul...
Bradley Manning has my utmost respect for his self-sacrifice against the might of Empire.
He can only be repaid by taking our democracy to heel.
A sad, horrific day for The Grand Experiment which has born a Frankenstein... i weep for amerika, Bradley gets my admiration and respect...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Awesome Stuff: Battery Power
semi on topic...
(in fact, got them 'cause new lithium-ions would fit old drill/driver bodies too, so didn't have to junk old tools...)
i hate to sound like a shill (not mentioning brand, which i'm very happy with), but i have been blown away by the difference...
old batteries fully charged would hardly last 3-4 days if they sat out in the shed; lithium-ion ones will last for MONTHS after charging and sitting out in the shed, and still have the *oomph* to get work done...
(mind you, it is not like it is a fresh charge, ready to drill a hundred holes through 4" oak, but it has enough juice to get a handful of tasks done, then set it aside, and it will still have enough juice weeks later to do some more...)
i'm not easy to impress, but i've gotta say the new, half-the size, but twice the power lithium-ions are pretty impressive performers...
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
On the post: Bank Robs House By Mistake, Refuses To Pay Up
Re: Re:
and why a LOT of people have switched too:
EXCEPT, *now* the banksters are crafting bills to eliminate credit unions as competition...
oh yeah, its damn GOOD to be the king...
fuckers
art guerrilla
aka ann archy
eof
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