It's hard enough for me to understand why anyone is going to the Yahoo website in the first place. I can't even begin to imagine that there is a nontrivial number of people who have it as their homepage.
Re: Unlimited liability for newpaper delivery boys?
And newspaper delivery is even more involved than what Google does. A deliveryboy actually delivers the content to the user. Google doesn't even do that much -- it just tells you the address of the content, you have to go and get it yourself.
In my opinion, gmail is the more problematic of Google's services. It's easy to use Google's search while minimizing your exposure. It's impossible to use gmail the same way.
I used to hold the Library of Congress in very high regard. By putting them in this role, however, Congress has guaranteed that they will look like shit no matter what your stance on anti-circumvention issues is.
It's such a shame to see the institution abused like this.
The problem with Rodney King is that the cops kept beating him well beyond when he was subdued. That's what the cameras caught. The events leading up to that don't really matter for that issue.
I agree. As long as the law isn't being stretched, bent, oddly interpreted, etc., there's nothing wrong with properly convicting someone of a crime that he actually committed, even if he probably committed even greater crimes as well.
But it does make me nervous. When multiple agencies coordinate to pin something on someone just because they don't like them or suspect them of some crime they can't prove it turns into the sort of high intensity project easily gets out of hand, especially in bureaucratic environments.
"Surveillance state detractors (myself included) cannot reasonably promote a state free of dragnet surveillance and then turn around and give the big thumbs up to constant citizen surveillance and heckling of the police."
I don't think that's what's happening, though. Outside of the fringe that exists with any group, nobody is giving a big thumbs up to heckling or harassing cops.
As to constant citizen surveillance of cops performing their duties, that's nothing close to the dragnet surveillance that is being fought against. It's really the same as the sort of surveillance that many employers engage in (and we are the employers, remember). While that type of surveillance is not free from controversey, it's also a different issue that must take into account different considerations. It can't really be compared to the arguments against uniquitous surveillance in the way you propose.
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"A manufacturer of safes might well have tools that could let them into my safe"
This is an interesting analogy.
First, the manufacturer of a safe does not have copies of keys or combos that would allow them entry, and there is no "backdoor" -- that is, no master key or combo.
Second, safe manufacturers will help you open a safe you own if you lose the key/combo -- but they will do so using the same methods that safe-crackers use. The advantage (and it's not a small advantage) that the manufacturer has is that they intimately know how the thing is built, so they know the right spot to drill, for example.
In the end, a safe manufacturer does not have any ability to open their safe beyond what a skilled and knowledgeable safe cracker has. I find it interesting that the DOJ is demanding more concessions from the like of Apple than they demand from safe manufacturers.
Violynne overstates the point, but underneath that he does make a valid one.
"That's not entirely true, at least on iOS 9. You _can_ have a copy of your credentials sync'd with iCloud, but you can choose not to."
So Apple claims, but unless you can verify this first-hand (and I don't see how that's possible), you have to take their word for it. In the security world, if you have to take someone's word for it, then the security model is broken.
That's because we're conflating two thing here. "Open source" says little about what the licensing arrangement is. It only means that the source is available for exmination and modification.
"Free software" (as in speech, not beer) says a lot about the licensing arrangement, but doesn't say much about the open source status.
Most people think of the two as analogous, since most open source software is also free software. But it doesn't have to be, and in many proprietary platforms it isn't.
I had the exact same thought. But that's not what will happen. If presented with a choice between giving up their precious licensing model and throwing all of their customers under the bus, major software companies will throw everyone under the bus every time.
"What Wikipedia really needs to get standing is a case or example where confidential information from Wikipedia actually gets used."
So in other words there is no possible way to address this problem through the legal system. That seems like a very dangerous thing if your interest the legitimacy of government.
This would seem to be very unfortunate if it's true, and hopefully Facebook reconsiders
I hope so too, but let's face it. This is Facebook we're talking about. Facebook has very little regard for the internet or its users, so I don't expect them to change their stance.
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Re: All that wasted data
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No. It's more like "condemn the hyprocrites pretending to be Christians".
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Re: Unlimited liability for newpaper delivery boys?
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No. It's time to stop using those sorts of services entirely. It's long past time, actually.
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Re: Feinstein's legacy
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The video shows this. King is laying on the ground, no longer moving, let alone resisting, while the cops continue to beat the crap out of him.
I honestly can't think of a single circumstance that would make that OK.
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It's a shame
It's such a shame to see the institution abused like this.
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But it does make me nervous. When multiple agencies coordinate to pin something on someone just because they don't like them or suspect them of some crime they can't prove it turns into the sort of high intensity project easily gets out of hand, especially in bureaucratic environments.
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Re: Can't have it both ways...
I don't think that's what's happening, though. Outside of the fringe that exists with any group, nobody is giving a big thumbs up to heckling or harassing cops.
As to constant citizen surveillance of cops performing their duties, that's nothing close to the dragnet surveillance that is being fought against. It's really the same as the sort of surveillance that many employers engage in (and we are the employers, remember). While that type of surveillance is not free from controversey, it's also a different issue that must take into account different considerations. It can't really be compared to the arguments against uniquitous surveillance in the way you propose.
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Re: Re: I actually kinda agree with the government's arguement here
This is an interesting analogy.
First, the manufacturer of a safe does not have copies of keys or combos that would allow them entry, and there is no "backdoor" -- that is, no master key or combo.
Second, safe manufacturers will help you open a safe you own if you lose the key/combo -- but they will do so using the same methods that safe-crackers use. The advantage (and it's not a small advantage) that the manufacturer has is that they intimately know how the thing is built, so they know the right spot to drill, for example.
In the end, a safe manufacturer does not have any ability to open their safe beyond what a skilled and knowledgeable safe cracker has. I find it interesting that the DOJ is demanding more concessions from the like of Apple than they demand from safe manufacturers.
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"That's not entirely true, at least on iOS 9. You _can_ have a copy of your credentials sync'd with iCloud, but you can choose not to."
So Apple claims, but unless you can verify this first-hand (and I don't see how that's possible), you have to take their word for it. In the security world, if you have to take someone's word for it, then the security model is broken.
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"Free software" (as in speech, not beer) says a lot about the licensing arrangement, but doesn't say much about the open source status.
Most people think of the two as analogous, since most open source software is also free software. But it doesn't have to be, and in many proprietary platforms it isn't.
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Re: Craaaaazy thought here
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So in other words there is no possible way to address this problem through the legal system. That seems like a very dangerous thing if your interest the legitimacy of government.
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Not strong enough.
You can assume that every byte you send online is being watched by somebody (and usually many somebodies) that you don't intend.
Because that's the truth.
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In character
I hope so too, but let's face it. This is Facebook we're talking about. Facebook has very little regard for the internet or its users, so I don't expect them to change their stance.
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