Every time a company asserts stupid patents like this, I want a Local police officer to walk into the CEO's office, open his portable cooler, pull out a large trout, and slap the CEO across the face with it.
Maybe then with the threat of being (Real life) Trout Slapped, these companies will stop litigating and start innovating.
Because SOPA allows private citizens (AKA Corporations under the Citizens United Bill, aka the RIAA, MPAA) the right to accuse and seize websites they dont like.
"Ahh man, I wanted to steal this analogy, but if you've already taken it, it is obviously gone now, and no one else can make a copy or ever use it again unless someone sees you use it, and steals it again."
I finally get a post into the funniest comments of the week and I forgot to login... damn.
Fine, Mike's arguments are Dishonest? Post some sort of proof, preferably with a link back to source, prove him wrong.
"You really Feel you are right" well that right there disproves the disingenuous claim. Defined as "Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating" [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disingenuous]. Mike's statements are sincere. He doesn't mock the MAFIAA's arguements pretending they are correct.
and as far as "downright Dangerous" I would also have to throw a [citation needed] sticker on that. How would keeping the status quo (not passing SOPA/PIPA) be 'Dangerous', and to who?
Re: You haven't explained what could replace copyright.
I'll take on a few of these... Maybe others can too.
) give away and pray is a valid business model
Mike has never said that Give it away and pray is a GOOD method. While he has applauded people who have tried it and succeeded, I have never seen him suggest this, and in most cases warns that it is a bad idea.
) the movie industry can be both crowd-sourced and crowd-funded (admittedly, so silly that it's only tacitly implied...)
Yes, Crowd-sourcing is ONE way a person could fund a movie. Hey look Mike did come up with an Alternative afterall. If it doesn't work for you business, Please provide YOUR OWN UNIQUE PLAN that does fit your application. If you can't figure it out on your own, hire a consultant, there might be one here reading this site.
) DNS blocking won't work at all -- OR, at times contradictorily in the same piece: DNS blocking WILL censor large swathes of the Internet
These can happen simultaneously. For people who are looking to download content illegally, someone somewhere will provide a simple tool, probably just a browser or javascript extension that anyone will be able to download in a minute. people who host these "rogue" sites" on a shared webserver will get thousands of other completely unrelated sites, like a family's photo sharing site, that use the same IP (typical for $3/month shared webhosting). People who are looking for legitimate content on those other completely unrelated sites, who wont think to google "File sharing hack tool", will no longer be able to see their grandma's latest hand knit scarf.
Re: Re: Re: You haven't explained what could replace copyright.
Unless the content that was made was made in the Public Domain, or under a shareable Creative commons license, or a "Do whatever the fuck you want with it License", or falls under Fair use, or you get permission, or I run out of breath describing the ways in which you can legally share something.
I see what you did there... You randomly copy and pasted a bunch of non-sense together and hit submit...
For those who don't read the whole article mike linked to here's the whole quote:
"We can't say with certainty that Nintendo or Sony still support the bill, but again, civil rights advocates seem to be assuming that companies not fighting the bill are supporting it. We've reached out to both companies to find out their latest stance on the issue, and in the meantime, we'd be willing to bet a buffalo-head nickel that their gamer customers will stay angry."
You grabbed a sentence fragment out of context to change the focus of the article to something you wanted to talk about... Well I know I'm not suppose to, but I feel like feeding the troll, I mean someone has to do it, Think of the starving little troll children!
Wquating customers being 'angry' that a business supports SOPA and a customer who was angry that a game was out of stock is like saying teachers picketing for better wages are exactly like the Columbine kids shooting up a school full of kids, I have to agree with AC here, None of your post makes a shred of sense.
What I can say about the article you posted, Here is a paying customer who was unable to be served by traditional brick and mortar distribution methods. Had Modern Warfare been available through a digital download (which is technically possible even for xbox/ps3/wii, although not typically used) and used a different payment model (say pay-per-month like most MMORPGs use) than this Paying customer could have been served, and a crisis averted. This kid may have become a pirate that day, as a direct result of a Customer Service Failure, a Business issue, that doesn't need a law to fix.
1) I wasn't aware "dns" is actually a verb. Thanks for this tidbit of knowledge.
2) "That includes all sorts of crap".... yea Like small businesses that run on ISDN (yea still), Cable, and DSL modems that need free ways to remotely connect to their server. I've setup dozens of businesses with this. I also used to use it for gaming servers, stat's websites for those gaming servers etc. plenty of legitimate uses, Where should the Legitimate users go now if you remove these services?
3) Of course legitimate businesses don't want you to pass a law that would hurt them. Maybe we should lobby for a three-stars-three-strikes law, you make 3 movies that are three stars or below and you are banned from buying video cameras for life. (this includes most digital cameras with movie feature, smartphones, etc.). This ensure's that the content industry can preserve the rich media that is being produced today. Don't Worry though, we will send out a vague warning letter to some email address that you probably don't use for the first two strikes to make sure you know your doing it wrong.
Cutting off the financial institutions for these sites wont do anything
Many of the "Rogue" sites, even ones that I've seen that really are dedicated to infringement, are often hosted on college networks (massive amounts of free bandwidth), Their hosting is free, its some box in a kids dorm room. the ads are only there to make an extra buck, pay for some beer, but even without making money from the sites, they are still going to run them. plan on blocking a whole block of IP addresses.... Lets see how MIT / RIT feel about their interwebs being taken away.
"Sorry, but if you can only bring hand waving and "you will break the internet" to the table, why bother?"
Actually we brought "You will break the internet" and a 17 page abstract (Notice not even a full description, just an abstract really) of why It would ACTUALLY Break the internet.
Your defense, name calling and placing undue burden on the tech industry to solve the content industries' problems.
In response to the Whitney Boe comment: They MAY be 'Your' Products (and these days with the copyright/trademark/patent thicket many 'original' ideas may not be yours for long), and 'your' ability to hire people to work on your films, but it is certainly NOT 'YOUR' Income.
Dug-in Content creators need to pull their head out of the sand and stop equating a download to a lost sale. As an independent film producer stopping piracy will only decrease sales. Its been shown in study after study here on techdirt that obscurity is worse than piracy.
Just because someone downloads the music doesn't mean they would also deem it worth the $5 from the Walmart overstock bin.
!! WARNING the following may contain sarcasm and is not suitable for certain readers. Reader's discretion is advised !!
But wait there's good news! YOU can stop piracy. YOU can turn your movie back into a SCARE good! and its Simple and Cheap! Unplug all your studio computers from the internet. Now Burn 1 copy of your movie to DVD drive to a theater. Get the TSA to search every grandmother coming into the theater for a camera/cellphone, once its been cleared, place the DVD in the projector yourself, show the film, wait in the projection booth, then take the DVD when you leave. Repeat thousands of times. IT has to work! there is zero chance of piracy!
/Sarc
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What I want.
Maybe then with the threat of being (Real life) Trout Slapped, these companies will stop litigating and start innovating.
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Re: Maybe its more for who don't want to sit next to
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I finally get a post into the funniest comments of the week and I forgot to login... damn.
On the post: Entertainment Industry Still Can't Get Grassroots Support For SOPA/PIPA, Resorts To Trying To Buy Support
Re:
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln.asp
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Re:
"You really Feel you are right" well that right there disproves the disingenuous claim. Defined as "Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating" [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disingenuous]. Mike's statements are sincere. He doesn't mock the MAFIAA's arguements pretending they are correct.
and as far as "downright Dangerous" I would also have to throw a [citation needed] sticker on that. How would keeping the status quo (not passing SOPA/PIPA) be 'Dangerous', and to who?
On the post: MPAA Tries Its Hand At Comedy With A Top 10 List In Favor Of Censoring The Internet
Re: You haven't explained what could replace copyright.
) give away and pray is a valid business model
Mike has never said that Give it away and pray is a GOOD method. While he has applauded people who have tried it and succeeded, I have never seen him suggest this, and in most cases warns that it is a bad idea.
) the movie industry can be both crowd-sourced and crowd-funded (admittedly, so silly that it's only tacitly implied...)
Yes, Crowd-sourcing is ONE way a person could fund a movie. Hey look Mike did come up with an Alternative afterall. If it doesn't work for you business, Please provide YOUR OWN UNIQUE PLAN that does fit your application. If you can't figure it out on your own, hire a consultant, there might be one here reading this site.
) DNS blocking won't work at all -- OR, at times contradictorily in the same piece: DNS blocking WILL censor large swathes of the Internet
These can happen simultaneously. For people who are looking to download content illegally, someone somewhere will provide a simple tool, probably just a browser or javascript extension that anyone will be able to download in a minute. people who host these "rogue" sites" on a shared webserver will get thousands of other completely unrelated sites, like a family's photo sharing site, that use the same IP (typical for $3/month shared webhosting). People who are looking for legitimate content on those other completely unrelated sites, who wont think to google "File sharing hack tool", will no longer be able to see their grandma's latest hand knit scarf.
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Re: Re: Re: You haven't explained what could replace copyright.
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Re: Auditing is possible
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Re: Re: Re: "their gamer customers will stay angry."
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Re: Re: "their gamer customers will stay angry."
For those who don't read the whole article mike linked to here's the whole quote:
You grabbed a sentence fragment out of context to change the focus of the article to something you wanted to talk about... Well I know I'm not suppose to, but I feel like feeding the troll, I mean someone has to do it, Think of the starving little troll children!
Wquating customers being 'angry' that a business supports SOPA and a customer who was angry that a game was out of stock is like saying teachers picketing for better wages are exactly like the Columbine kids shooting up a school full of kids, I have to agree with AC here, None of your post makes a shred of sense.
What I can say about the article you posted, Here is a paying customer who was unable to be served by traditional brick and mortar distribution methods. Had Modern Warfare been available through a digital download (which is technically possible even for xbox/ps3/wii, although not typically used) and used a different payment model (say pay-per-month like most MMORPGs use) than this Paying customer could have been served, and a crisis averted. This kid may have become a pirate that day, as a direct result of a Customer Service Failure, a Business issue, that doesn't need a law to fix.
On the post: Another DNS Provider Comes Out Against SOPA
Re:
2) "That includes all sorts of crap".... yea Like small businesses that run on ISDN (yea still), Cable, and DSL modems that need free ways to remotely connect to their server. I've setup dozens of businesses with this. I also used to use it for gaming servers, stat's websites for those gaming servers etc. plenty of legitimate uses, Where should the Legitimate users go now if you remove these services?
3) Of course legitimate businesses don't want you to pass a law that would hurt them. Maybe we should lobby for a three-stars-three-strikes law, you make 3 movies that are three stars or below and you are banned from buying video cameras for life. (this includes most digital cameras with movie feature, smartphones, etc.). This ensure's that the content industry can preserve the rich media that is being produced today. Don't Worry though, we will send out a vague warning letter to some email address that you probably don't use for the first two strikes to make sure you know your doing it wrong.
On the post: A Look At Three Popular Sites That May Be In Trouble Under SOPA
Cutting off the financial institutions for these sites wont do anything
On the post: House Judiciary Committee Refuses To Hear Wider Tech Industry Concerns About SOPA
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Actually we brought "You will break the internet" and a 17 page abstract (Notice not even a full description, just an abstract really) of why It would ACTUALLY Break the internet.
Your defense, name calling and placing undue burden on the tech industry to solve the content industries' problems.
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Maybe television was too big of a word for her so her studio had to shorten it. /sarc
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Re: Creative America's Letter Count
Dug-in Content creators need to pull their head out of the sand and stop equating a download to a lost sale. As an independent film producer stopping piracy will only decrease sales. Its been shown in study after study here on techdirt that obscurity is worse than piracy.
Just because someone downloads the music doesn't mean they would also deem it worth the $5 from the Walmart overstock bin.
!! WARNING the following may contain sarcasm and is not suitable for certain readers. Reader's discretion is advised !!
But wait there's good news! YOU can stop piracy. YOU can turn your movie back into a SCARE good! and its Simple and Cheap! Unplug all your studio computers from the internet. Now Burn 1 copy of your movie to DVD drive to a theater. Get the TSA to search every grandmother coming into the theater for a camera/cellphone, once its been cleared, place the DVD in the projector yourself, show the film, wait in the projection booth, then take the DVD when you leave. Repeat thousands of times. IT has to work! there is zero chance of piracy!
/Sarc
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