On the one hand, your express the belief that all users of a service like torrents should not be judged by the few who abuse it, but you then flip around and blame all police for the actions of a very small minority of bad actors.
Torrent users aren't armed and don't have any authority.
A legal torrent user is not in a position to police other torrent users - whilst cops can blow the whistle on the behaviour of other cops.
Ultimately, taking several thousand photos with dozens of surveillance cameras is no greater a violation of privacy than a single photographer taking shots of crowd members.
I take issue with that - in a world where technology enables the data to be analysed automatically.
The single photographer will at most identify people who were there. The surveillance cameras - combined with modern technology - enable all your movements to be identified and tracked automatically, timestamped etc etc. This IS a bigger violation of privacy.
Re: The coverup is almost always worse than the crime
If they really weren't doing anything wrong here, why lie about it? Why not just tell the public what they were doing and who was involved?
Because, deep down, they know that they are doing something wrong.
As someone said, nearly 2000 years ago:
"Men loved the darkness... because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."
But in this case neither is even necessary because THERE IS NO COPYRIGHT IN SPORTING EVENTS
REPEAT THERE IS NO COPYRIGHT IN SPORTING EVENTS
ANy sport body claiming copyright in the event itself is admitting that the event is "fixed" - snce that is the only way that a copyright could be claimed.
As far as the "ticket sales condition" is concerned - if you deliberately don't make any copyrightable expression in your filming then (as in the monkey case) there is no copyright for them to take off you - so the clips are in the public domain.
I'm sorry but the premier league is trying to change the law by a process of repetition/initimidation. Thankfully the law doesn't work like that (yet).
However if the clip was filmed by the fan hten he owns the copyright - and there is no need for such a defence.
Events have no copyright unless they are staged or choreographed (as in theatre, music or dance). Sporting events have no copyright - unless the premier league is admitting that the matches are fixed.
It does - but it is contradicted by this quote from the page linked by the AC below:
"Symantec's Internet Security Threat Report revealed that religious websites have triple the number of virus-related threats than pornographic sites.
"It is interesting to note that websites hosting adult/pornographic content are not in the top five, but ranked tenth," said Symantec in its Internet Security Threat Report. "We hypothesize that this is because pornographic website owners already make money from the Internet and, as a result, have a vested interest in keeping their sites malware-free; it's not good for repeat business."
I think that report was in my memory when I wrote the original comment.
There is no security vulnerability that can come close to the effectiveness of someone stupid clicking on a button they shouldn't.
Agreed - and that is rather the point - because where I work - with websense blocking access to NSFW sites - we were taken down by someone who really should have known better clicking on a link in a spam email!
HM yes - but bear in mind that "work" computers generally have their security software up to the mark - whereas it is "home" computers that don't (having said that it is also true that "work" networks typically have websense or simliar installed so you can't access nsfw sites even if you wanted to (true of my workplace for example). Such s/w typically blocks the malware quite effectively also. I have had one infection on a home machine (from an open source download site) that was effectively blocked at work,
So the real question is not how come these government employees waste their time on NSFW sites - but rather how come they are actually able to?
Certainly just about any website could have malware - including news sites. (and not just websites - played any Sony CD's on your work computer?)
Any NSFW site that has a business model that isn't actually based on distributing malware has just a much (if not more) incentive to keep itself free of malware as any other entertainment site.
So absent of actual evidence I'll not accept your point.
Now, I don't know about you, but I've had boring jobs before, where not every minute of the day was spent working. And I've had access to the internet at the same time. And not once did I think the lack of work meant I should use work computers to access porn...... It's completely disingenuous to blame your job for your porn habit, especially when your employment is funded by money taken from people directly out of their paychecks without their explicit consent.
But - I'm prepared to bet that you have done some non-work activity and from the "tax dollars" point of view the exact nature of the non-work activity is surely irrelevant.
Session musicians, producers, writers... there are all sorts of people who make a reasonable to good living in music. Clearly, that would have been better before the internet / piracy days,
Where is your evidence? These types of people still can make a good living - since most of it comes from live performance and that, if anything has boomed since the internet came along.
as a 50% haircut in income for the industry generally trickles down and hurts the smaller guys.
Huh - where is your evidfence that the industry has ever allowed any of its royalty income to trickle down to the little guy?
When something is new (or new to them) people get hooked on it and overdo it for a while. A small minority become permanently hooked on it and continue much longer than everyone else. That minority is usually a larger proportion of the 8-16 agegroup at the time when the thing first becomes popular. (Hence the current 25-35 demographic for serious computer gamers). After a while it settles down. The same will happen with the current smartphone/tablet thing.
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Re: He isn't the only one saying this
Torrent users aren't armed and don't have any authority.
A legal torrent user is not in a position to police other torrent users - whilst cops can blow the whistle on the behaviour of other cops.
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I was brought up with the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right!"
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No greater violation?
I take issue with that - in a world where technology enables the data to be analysed automatically.
The single photographer will at most identify people who were there. The surveillance cameras - combined with modern technology - enable all your movements to be identified and tracked automatically, timestamped etc etc. This IS a bigger violation of privacy.
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Re: The coverup is almost always worse than the crime
Because, deep down, they know that they are doing something wrong.
As someone said, nearly 2000 years ago:
"Men loved the darkness... because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."
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REPEAT THERE IS NO COPYRIGHT IN SPORTING EVENTS
ANy sport body claiming copyright in the event itself is admitting that the event is "fixed" - snce that is the only way that a copyright could be claimed.
As far as the "ticket sales condition" is concerned - if you deliberately don't make any copyrightable expression in your filming then (as in the monkey case) there is no copyright for them to take off you - so the clips are in the public domain.
I'm sorry but the premier league is trying to change the law by a process of repetition/initimidation. Thankfully the law doesn't work like that (yet).
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Events have no copyright unless they are staged or choreographed (as in theatre, music or dance). Sporting events have no copyright - unless the premier league is admitting that the matches are fixed.
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Re: Re: Football matches are not copyrightable
In fact to argue in court that they have a case would be tantamount to admitting that the matches are fixed!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Not once
It does - but it is contradicted by this quote from the page linked by the AC below:
"Symantec's Internet Security Threat Report revealed that religious websites have triple the number of virus-related threats than pornographic sites.
"It is interesting to note that websites hosting adult/pornographic content are not in the top five, but ranked tenth," said Symantec in its Internet Security Threat Report. "We hypothesize that this is because pornographic website owners already make money from the Internet and, as a result, have a vested interest in keeping their sites malware-free; it's not good for repeat business."
I think that report was in my memory when I wrote the original comment.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not once
Agreed - and that is rather the point - because where I work - with websense blocking access to NSFW sites - we were taken down by someone who really should have known better clicking on a link in a spam email!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Not once
So the real question is not how come these government employees waste their time on NSFW sites - but rather how come they are actually able to?
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Re: Re: Not once
Certainly just about any website could have malware - including news sites. (and not just websites - played any Sony CD's on your work computer?)
Any NSFW site that has a business model that isn't actually based on distributing malware has just a much (if not more) incentive to keep itself free of malware as any other entertainment site.
So absent of actual evidence I'll not accept your point.
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Not once
But - I'm prepared to bet that you have done some non-work activity and from the "tax dollars" point of view the exact nature of the non-work activity is surely irrelevant.
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a kill switch makes stealing phones less valuable,
Given a bot of time the supposed "problem" will go away of its own accord.
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Re: Not exactly right
Where is your evidence? These types of people still can make a good living - since most of it comes from live performance and that, if anything has boomed since the internet came along.
as a 50% haircut in income for the industry generally trickles down and hurts the smaller guys.
Huh - where is your evidfence that the industry has ever allowed any of its royalty income to trickle down to the little guy?
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Re: Re: logic?
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140131/09523326059/david-cameron-says-snoopers-charter-i s-necessary-because-fictional-crime-dramas-he-watches-prove-it.shtml
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Re: Re: Re: Re: At last!
(US prison population 2.2m Gaza population 1.8m)
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Re: Re: At last!
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