Two weeks is just about long enough for the Twitter account to show up in search results. I bet whomever found it wasn't monitoring social networks, per se, just using a random search engine and thinking they were savvy.
Actually, it's a problem for acts that want to get known outside of their region of the world.
That's a good thing actually. If you're an 'act' who 'wants to be known' then you probably don't produce any art that I was to see or hear. I'm glad to hear that people who desire fame will have less avenues for shoving themselves in my face in our new draconian-label-less future. Yay!
If you produce art because you love to produce art, then your talent will connect you with others, especially if you share your art on the Internet. (You know, the Internet, where the entire world is one really big region?)
If he's a troll, then don't feed him. Ignore him, and make your points in peace. Making me wade through buckets of comments that have nothing to do with the topic is a waste of my time, and just makes you look like even more of an ass.
Was this some big transcendental idea that only one person could have come up with? I think it's pretty likely that multiple people pitched this idea, and Summit went with the best people for the job.
If I call a contractor to give me an estimate for remodeling (which I'm currently doing) and he shows up drunk and details some great ideas, I'm not going to hire him. But I certainly wouldn't feel unethical if I hired a different, sober contractor to complete those ideas.
If they're not full tracks, then this band is an even bigger waste, because the one I downloaded was over ten minutes long. Also, WMA is easily convertible to mp3.
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Are you saying that we should speak to them on the telephone or send them a DM on Twitter before we can disagree with them? If so, I think that's really unnecessary.
These people have a large website, with lots of information about their perspective. By reading their words, we've communicated with them about their perspective and we're giving our opinion of their perspective.
Why should we assume that a second glance is necessary, especially since they've published their perspective for us already?
Simply prove it then. All you've said so far is that a one-page ad was sent to 200,00 people. That doesn't mean jack crap, in advertising. Those numbers, and the expected return, and tiny. (As is the name presence of your client.)
Roflmao, you're funny and you're making your clients look worse and worse. I think that's the opposite of what you're supposed to be doing.
The really hilarious thing is that if you were worth your salt, you'd know that everything that's posted here will be pretty darned high in the search results.
Someone searches for your client, and they're going to see this article, along with you acting like a hurt puppy because we don't like what your clients call music.
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I think that is the goal of most bands, just as it is for most start-up companies.
No. Most bands and start-up companies want to make a living doing what they love. They don't want to be CEOs of multimillion dollar corporations. Do you really think your plumber aspires to own a multimillion dollar corporation, or do you think he's perfectly happy running his own small business?
As a small business owner, I can tell you that most of us aspire to be... small business owners. Why should musicians be any different?
Short answer: You do what you love because you love to do it, not because you might make money from it. Your incentive is that you love to do it.
Most people work a day job, and then do what they love in their spare time. I've got zero sympathy for snivelers who cry about not making money from their art, or actually having to work to make money from their talent, just like everyone else does.
We will all suffer because of the selfishness of the entitlement society.
This works both ways. These people that are calling themselves 'artists' are essentially throwing tantrums because they think that they're entitled to make a living doing what they love.
News Flash: You do what you love because you love to do it. End of story. Most people work a day job, and then do what they love in their spare time. I've got zero sympathy for snivelers who cry about not making a mint from their art, or actually having to work to make money from their talent, just like everyone else does.
I'll tell you what, it takes talent and work to earn money in sales. It takes talent and work to earn money in customer service. It takes talent and work to earn money as a mechanic. It takes talent and work to earn money as a blogger. It takes talent and work to earn money in every single industry, including music and art.
You can make all the art you want without getting paid for it. A monetary exchange that benefits the artist isn't necessary for the artist to create art. Look at the countless number of artists who didn't make money from their art in their lifetimes, and only gained recognition after their deaths.
Let me be clear: The unwillingness of the public to support artists has never stopped the creation of art, and never will.
If you want to create art, create it. If you want to share your art, share it. If you want to make money, make it. You don't automatically deserve money from me just because you created art and shared it. The end. Deal with it.
Are you saying that we should speak to them on the telephone or send them a DM on Twitter before we can disagree with them? If so, I think that's really unnecessary.
These people have a large website, with lots of information about their perspective. By reading their words, we've communicated with them about their perspective and we're giving our opinion of their perspective.
Why should we assume that there is 'something going on behind the scene', especially since they've published their perspective for us already?
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Also, we have a few mom-and-pops here in the Ft. Sill area, but they all serve cheesy grease on bad bread, as opposed to pizza.
Possibly Domino's is just awesome by comparison?
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That's a good thing actually. If you're an 'act' who 'wants to be known' then you probably don't produce any art that I was to see or hear. I'm glad to hear that people who desire fame will have less avenues for shoving themselves in my face in our new draconian-label-less future. Yay!
If you produce art because you love to produce art, then your talent will connect you with others, especially if you share your art on the Internet. (You know, the Internet, where the entire world is one really big region?)
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If I call a contractor to give me an estimate for remodeling (which I'm currently doing) and he shows up drunk and details some great ideas, I'm not going to hire him. But I certainly wouldn't feel unethical if I hired a different, sober contractor to complete those ideas.
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Re: Is it really that hard a concept to get your head around?
These people have a large website, with lots of information about their perspective. By reading their words, we've communicated with them about their perspective and we're giving our opinion of their perspective.
Why should we assume that a second glance is necessary, especially since they've published their perspective for us already?
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Band No One Has Heard of Stops Distributing Their Music... Good Plan...
http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/band-no-one-has-heard-stops-distributing-their-mus ic-good-plan/
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The really hilarious thing is that if you were worth your salt, you'd know that everything that's posted here will be pretty darned high in the search results.
Someone searches for your client, and they're going to see this article, along with you acting like a hurt puppy because we don't like what your clients call music.
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Re: wow. impressive.
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No. Most bands and start-up companies want to make a living doing what they love. They don't want to be CEOs of multimillion dollar corporations. Do you really think your plumber aspires to own a multimillion dollar corporation, or do you think he's perfectly happy running his own small business?
As a small business owner, I can tell you that most of us aspire to be... small business owners. Why should musicians be any different?
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Most people work a day job, and then do what they love in their spare time. I've got zero sympathy for snivelers who cry about not making money from their art, or actually having to work to make money from their talent, just like everyone else does.
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This works both ways. These people that are calling themselves 'artists' are essentially throwing tantrums because they think that they're entitled to make a living doing what they love.
News Flash: You do what you love because you love to do it. End of story. Most people work a day job, and then do what they love in their spare time. I've got zero sympathy for snivelers who cry about not making a mint from their art, or actually having to work to make money from their talent, just like everyone else does.
I'll tell you what, it takes talent and work to earn money in sales. It takes talent and work to earn money in customer service. It takes talent and work to earn money as a mechanic. It takes talent and work to earn money as a blogger. It takes talent and work to earn money in every single industry, including music and art.
You can make all the art you want without getting paid for it. A monetary exchange that benefits the artist isn't necessary for the artist to create art. Look at the countless number of artists who didn't make money from their art in their lifetimes, and only gained recognition after their deaths.
Let me be clear: The unwillingness of the public to support artists has never stopped the creation of art, and never will.
If you want to create art, create it. If you want to share your art, share it. If you want to make money, make it. You don't automatically deserve money from me just because you created art and shared it. The end. Deal with it.
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These people have a large website, with lots of information about their perspective. By reading their words, we've communicated with them about their perspective and we're giving our opinion of their perspective.
Why should we assume that there is 'something going on behind the scene', especially since they've published their perspective for us already?
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