Summit Entertainment Sues, Saying Only It Can Make A Documentary About How 'Twilight' Impacted Forks, WA
from the once-bitten dept
Summit Entertainment, the studio behind the massively successful Twilight series of films, is suing another company that made a documentary. Apparently the Twilight books and movies take place in the town of Forks, Washington. In this case, a company called Heckelsville Media wanted to make a documentary about how the books and movies impacted Forks. It pitched the documentary to a few companies, including Summit Entertainment, who agreed to release the documentary in conjunction with the most recent film's DVD release. But one of the other companies that Heckelsville pitched liked the idea so much that it produced its own documentary on the same subject, which it's releasing a few days earlier.So, the question is whether or not this is legal. It seems pretty bizarre to suggest that only Summit could ever make a documentary about the impact a book and movie had on a town. Summit, who has a history of being ridiculously over-aggressive in trying to stop anyone from doing anything Twilight related, is claiming both trademark and copyright infringement (among a few other things). There may be an argument for trademark infringement, though it seems like a weak one, since this movie is about Twilight, not a competitor to Twilight. If it's considered trademark infringement to make a documentary about a trademarked brand, then you could never make a whole bunch of documentaries. For example, can you imagine if GM had tried to stop Michael Moore's Roger & Me by claiming trademark infringement?
As for the copyright claim, again, that seems rather weak, as it seems to focus on still images. There may be an issue with the unauthorized documentary makers originally using a cover that was similar to the original cover pitched by Heckelsville, but even then, the makers of the unauthorized documentary have already agreed to change the cover to make it different.
All in all, it seems like Summit is overreacting. If, as it claims, this other documentary was put together in a rush and isn't very good, then why not compete in the marketplace to see which documentary people prefer?
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let me ge this straight
thats also whats wrong with this system now you say copyright is weak on that idea, THIS will depend ON HOW much of the 1st lots ideas were incorporated into there documentary and why do we need two of them if the first group was liked and approved.
VERY stupid thing to do really and you ask for a punch in nose doing that to friends in real life
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It's rude and obnoxious, but should it be illegal? If so, why?
THIS will depend ON HOW much of the 1st lots ideas were incorporated into there documentary and why do we need two of them if the first group was liked and approved.
Copyright is (supposed) to be about expression, not ideas...
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I'm genuinely asking - I don't know much about the law. I am assuming that it doesn't apply here, though, since there was no formal arrangement between Heckelsville and the studio making the competing documentary.
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You can't copyright ideas. It's the execution of the idea that you can lay claim to.
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Is it legal to steal a pitch idea?
Ideas supposedly can't be copyrighted, only expressions of ideas, yet people seem to be able to sue over similarites of plot and such in fiction. What is the recourse, if any? How can people pitch if there is no legal protection?
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Putting out a better product.
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Ideas cant be protected, only specific, fixed expressions of those ideas. Contracts maybe, but that would be down to the specific parties involved, like if the town signed an EXCLUSIVE agreement, then went ahead and made their own. But that is contract law, not copyright or trademark.
"Ideas supposedly can't be copyrighted, only expressions of ideas, yet people seem to be able to sue over similarites of plot and such in fiction. What is the recourse, if any? How can people pitch if there is no legal protection?"
Similarities are still based on fixed expressions. You cant copyright the idea of an orphan boy wizard, but you CAN copyright an orphan boy wizard named Harry Potter who goes to Hogwarts and has friends named Ron and Hermoine. And even THEN, you can parody these specifics, for instance. At least you used to. Now with entitlement culture and every single thought having "ownership", people sue over things not enshrined in law, like documentaries, commentary and criticism, and news.
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If they want to be so sue happy...
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haha, yeah - and 'Twilight, WV' should sue this film maker as well, for 'infringing'.
Twilight, WV
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It all depends
It seems to me that copyright is not relevant.
However if A pitches idea to B, B says no but then follows up the idea anyway then that is not a good way to behave (and ought to have been excluded via the negotiation contract.
Conversely if A pitches to B, C and D, both B and C say yes but A prefers to go with C then B should be free to proceed independently.
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TOPICS did nothing wrong
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Seriously though, are people becoming so stupid and lazy lately that they can't come up with their own ideas and have to rip off other people's ideas/logos?
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If I call a contractor to give me an estimate for remodeling (which I'm currently doing) and he shows up drunk and details some great ideas, I'm not going to hire him. But I certainly wouldn't feel unethical if I hired a different, sober contractor to complete those ideas.
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